Lawrence Adler

I have a 2001 ZX3 woth 97K of most;y hi speed driving. LAtely when I start
it in the morning it has a viabration which seems to be getting stornger.
Afetr I back out my draiveway and put it in forward it seems to go away and
does appear until the next morning. I have not changed out the timiing belt
yet but religiously change the oil and filter every 3000mi. Any ideas out
there.

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Lawrence M. Adler



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Lawrence M. Adler

 

oh no

Just like a defective vibrator.

Dave Gower

"Lawrence Adler" <adl001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I have a 2001 ZX3 woth 97K of most;y hi speed driving. LAtely when I start
> it in the morning it has a viabration which seems to be getting stornger.
> Afetr I back out my draiveway and put it in forward it seems to go away
> and
> does appear until the next morning. I have not changed out the timiing
> belt
> yet but religiously change the oil and filter every 3000mi.

Tune-up.

Henri

"Dave Gower" <davegow-spamblock@magma.ca> wrote in message
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Tune-up.

There is not anything to tune up.
All the ignition timing, fuel injection, transmission controls, emission
controls is taken car of by the computer.

The old "tune up" does not exist anymore. Its very easy to say the engine
needs a tune up to explain away a badly running engine.

You cannot diagnose a car problem via internet.

Opinions are like arseholes everyones got one even me.

Today many car problems with engine idle or bad running are due to emission
controls.
You need to take the car to a garage and have the Tech scope the engine to
find out if there is a problem with ignition wires, plugs, injection system
and compression as well have the Tech scan the computer for a bad oxygen
sensor or emission control, before you spend any money on repairs. Your
problem could be as simple as a $50 part.

Michael Heiming

In alt.autos.ford.focus Henri <henri_latour@hotmail.com>:

> "Dave Gower" <davegow-spamblock@magma.ca> wrote in message
> news:QIGdnUy8ZMeMXxTenZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@magma.ca...

>> Tune-up.

[ quoting fixed, try getting your hands on the quotefix patch or
install a working newsreader to overcome the shortcoming ]

> There is not anything to tune up.
> All the ignition timing, fuel injection, transmission controls, emission
> controls is taken car of by the computer.

Even the most advanced computer will not be able to make an
engine with broken air-/petrolfilter and overused spark plugs
running like a charm.

> The old "tune up" does not exist anymore. Its very easy to say the engine
> needs a tune up to explain away a badly running engine.

Those are basics that should be in a good condition, the
principal way of four-stroke engines hasn't changes in over 100
years. Don't fool yourself because of a little computer help used
today.

> You cannot diagnose a car problem via internet.

Quite difficult.

> Opinions are like arseholes everyones got one even me.

> Today many car problems with engine idle or bad running are due to emission
> controls.
> You need to take the car to a garage and have the Tech scope the engine to
> find out if there is a problem with ignition wires, plugs, injection system
> and compression as well have the Tech scan the computer for a bad oxygen
> sensor or emission control, before you spend any money on repairs. Your
> problem could be as simple as a $50 part.

Not unlikely, in any case the above mentioned basics should be in
a usable state to ease up any further diagnose.

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old, you know.

Dave Gower

"Henri" <henri_latour@hotmail.com> wrote

> There is not anything to tune up.

Henri, why don't you learn the basics before making a fool of yourself.
Plugs, wires, clean the intake, injector cleaner in the gas, fuel and air
filter, check and maybe replace the O2 sensor, cooling system check
(incorrect engine temp can cause running problems). The idea that cars don't
need tune-ups any more is one of the main reasons why so many people are
blaming their vehicles for running poorly when it's their own fault. No
wonder you don't like your Focus. You'd probably feel the same about any
vehicle unfortunate enough to be in your driveway.

Henri

Hey Dave the TROLL, by making these boiler plate statements as in your last
post, shows that you must be have been reading the dealers service board.

I have had many years experience servicing and repairing vehicles, both in
this country and Europe, so I have learnt the basics, thank you for asking.
And still learning the new and different additions of today's vehicles and
engines.

Car manufacturers including Ford promote 100,000 mile tune ups & 100,00
miles Coolant change . In Europe 10,000 or 20,000 mile oil change intervals
are the norm now. Have you thought of consulting with Ford as you appear to
know more about servicing their vehicles than they do.

Your ability to be able to diagnose a problem with a vehicle over the
internet leaves me speechless, I am impressed.

Remember folks any problems with rough running engine ""Tune UP"! Just take
the car to the service place and tell the service Tech no need to diagnose,
Dave says tune up will solve my problem..

As usual if someone disagrees with you, your reply to the poster with
"making a fool of your self or calling people nasty names.

But to make the statement that "tune up" is the answer to this fellows
problem is wrong and ignorant and shows that your knowledge about today's
automobiles and engines is limited.





"Dave Gower" <davegow-spamblock@magma.ca> wrote in message
news:2Oidnd7jhL8y4hfeRVn-oQ@magma.ca...

"Henri" <henri_latour@hotmail.com> wrote

> There is not anything to tune up.

Henri, why don't you learn the basics before making a fool of yourself.
Plugs, wires, clean the intake, injector cleaner in the gas, fuel and air
filter, check and maybe replace the O2 sensor, cooling system check
(incorrect engine temp can cause running problems). The idea that cars don't
need tune-ups any more is one of the main reasons why so many people are
blaming their vehicles for running poorly when it's their own fault. No
wonder you don't like your Focus. You'd probably feel the same about any
vehicle unfortunate enough to be in your driveway.

Dave Gower

"Henri" <henri_latour@hotmail.com> wrote

> I have had many years experience servicing and repairing vehicles, both in
> this country and Europe, so I have learnt the basics, thank you for
> asking.

Obvious lie. Beat it, troll.

Bertrand Couot

The problem is that you two are right and that Henri is quite agressive. A
computer does not make a car run well if there is no engine, can it ?
My limited experience taught me that a cold engine can vibrate because the
plugs are so worn out that the spark won't be sufficient to ignite a rich
mixture, therefore vibration because only three cylinders run out of four.
After only a few seconds the mixture is better, and after a few minutes the
engine itself has heated up, so the problem is not perceptible anymore. And
this is just one single example to satisfy Dave.
An other one, for and against Henri, is that a computer needs a regular
reset manoeuver because, afer a while, it over calculates the engine data
and gives out wrong information to the electronic commanded components.
Computers are known to crash, even desktop Apples. What makes you think your
car's computer is infaillible ?

And, it would be reasonnable to assume that a 97K miles car is not brand
new anymore and that noises and light changes in car behaviour are possible
due to general wear and tear.


Personnaly, I would think that Dave is right, because it is such common
sense.

Burt, from France.


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> "Lawrence Adler" <adl001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:7A2if.2446$A23.1803@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>I have a 2001 ZX3 woth 97K of most;y hi speed driving. LAtely when I
>>start
>> it in the morning it has a viabration which seems to be getting stornger.
>> Afetr I back out my draiveway and put it in forward it seems to go away
>> and
>> does appear until the next morning. I have not changed out the timiing
>> belt
>> yet but religiously change the oil and filter every 3000mi.
>
> Tune-up.
>