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Old 07-06-2005, 00:01   #1 (permalink)
Runner
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Wiper problem


Hope someone can help...A friend just purchased a used 2003 focus, if she
presses the button for a "one time wipe" of the wiper blades, the blades
will stop at the point where they are pointing straight up (1/2 cycle)
unless she holds the "one time wipe" button on thru the whole cycle. Ford
dealer is claiming that it is how it is suppose to work on the focus, but I
find it hard to believe. I would think you should only have to press it and
release it one quick time and it would run the complete cycle itself (like
every other car I have ever owned). Can anyone please let me know if theirs
works the same way or if the dealer is feeding her a line.
Thanks in advance.



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Old 07-06-2005, 07:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Wiper problem


"Runner" <h4nowNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hope someone can help...A friend just purchased a used 2003 focus, if she
> presses the button for a "one time wipe" of the wiper blades, the blades
> will stop at the point where they are pointing straight up (1/2 cycle)
> unless she holds the "one time wipe" button on thru the whole cycle. Ford
> dealer is claiming that it is how it is suppose to work on the focus, but
> I
> find it hard to believe.


Who were you talking to at the Ford dealer? The janitor? Of course wipers
are supposed to park at the bottom of the screen. All cars have been made
that way for decades. The parking switch (located under the windshield
wiper) is faulty and needs replacing. Not a big deal.


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Old 07-07-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Wiper problem

Dave,
That was about the same response I had when friend told me what dealer
said.....they park at bottom with all the wiper positions (i.e. high, low,
intermittent)...BUT they do not park on the "mist" or one time wipe switch
unless the switch is held down thru entire whip cycle (not the wash, but the
one swipe mist). That is what is throwing me off...if the parking switch
was bad, why do they park in all the other settings?


"Dave Gower" <davegow.removethis@magma.ca> wrote in message
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> "Runner" <h4nowNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Hope someone can help...A friend just purchased a used 2003 focus, if

she
> > presses the button for a "one time wipe" of the wiper blades, the blades
> > will stop at the point where they are pointing straight up (1/2 cycle)
> > unless she holds the "one time wipe" button on thru the whole cycle.

Ford
> > dealer is claiming that it is how it is suppose to work on the focus,

but
> > I
> > find it hard to believe.

>
> Who were you talking to at the Ford dealer? The janitor? Of course wipers
> are supposed to park at the bottom of the screen. All cars have been made
> that way for decades. The parking switch (located under the windshield
> wiper) is faulty and needs replacing. Not a big deal.
>
>



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Old 07-08-2005, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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"Runner" <h4nowNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave,
> That was about the same response I had when friend told me what dealer
> said.....they park at bottom with all the wiper positions (i.e. high, low,
> intermittent)...BUT they do not park on the "mist" or one time wipe switch
> unless the switch is held down thru entire whip cycle (not the wash, but
> the
> one swipe mist). That is what is throwing me off...if the parking switch
> was bad, why do they park in all the other settings?


The switch is able to make a contact after a certain period of time and
wiper movement, but not fast enough to "grab" after a brief application of
electrical power. Electrical contacts are sometimes like that when they
start to fail. The parking switch is the mechanism and the only mechanism
that positions the wiper blades after use, and if you have a problem of this
nature it's got to be the culprit. The circuit sounds complex, but is really
quite simple after you've worked though an electrical diagram.

I hope you don't think I was being snarky at you, what annoys me is when
some egohead who happens to work at a dealer (and obviously doesn't
understand the electrics at work here) brushes off customers with this kind
of insulting crap. Good luck.


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Old 07-08-2005, 16:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Wiper problem

Dave,
I didn't take it that way at all...and thank you very much for the
information. I am going to take the vehicle in for her and see if they feed
me the same line of crap.

Thanks again,
Paul


"Dave Gower" <davegow.removethis@magma.ca> wrote in message
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> "Runner" <h4nowNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Kffze.118067$g5.81611@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Dave,
> > That was about the same response I had when friend told me what dealer
> > said.....they park at bottom with all the wiper positions (i.e. high,

low,
> > intermittent)...BUT they do not park on the "mist" or one time wipe

switch
> > unless the switch is held down thru entire whip cycle (not the wash, but
> > the
> > one swipe mist). That is what is throwing me off...if the parking

switch
> > was bad, why do they park in all the other settings?

>
> The switch is able to make a contact after a certain period of time and
> wiper movement, but not fast enough to "grab" after a brief application of
> electrical power. Electrical contacts are sometimes like that when they
> start to fail. The parking switch is the mechanism and the only mechanism
> that positions the wiper blades after use, and if you have a problem of

this
> nature it's got to be the culprit. The circuit sounds complex, but is

really
> quite simple after you've worked though an electrical diagram.
>
> I hope you don't think I was being snarky at you, what annoys me is when
> some egohead who happens to work at a dealer (and obviously doesn't
> understand the electrics at work here) brushes off customers with this

kind
> of insulting crap. Good luck.
>
>



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Old 07-13-2005, 11:01   #6 (permalink)
JJ
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Re: Wiper problem

had the same problem last week on my 2003 ZTW

dealer changed a wiper motor relay

works fine now



Runner wrote:
> Hope someone can help...A friend just purchased a used 2003 focus, if she
> presses the button for a "one time wipe" of the wiper blades, the blades
> will stop at the point where they are pointing straight up (1/2 cycle)
> unless she holds the "one time wipe" button on thru the whole cycle. Ford
> dealer is claiming that it is how it is suppose to work on the focus, but I
> find it hard to believe. I would think you should only have to press it and
> release it one quick time and it would run the complete cycle itself (like
> every other car I have ever owned). Can anyone please let me know if theirs
> works the same way or if the dealer is feeding her a line.
> Thanks in advance.


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Old 08-04-2005, 17:01   #7 (permalink)
rufus20
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Re: Wiper problem

The dealer is full of beans and he knows it. I wouldn't do business with
such a disreputable dealer again.
Ford has released two Technical Service Bulletins on this issue.
It is a defective wiper relay causing the problem. The fault is clearly
Ford's.
Go back to your dealer's Service Manager and ask to see TSB 04-15-2. Don't
leave until they replace it for free.
Good luck.


"Runner" <h4nowNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hope someone can help...A friend just purchased a used 2003 focus, if she
> presses the button for a "one time wipe" of the wiper blades, the blades
> will stop at the point where they are pointing straight up (1/2 cycle)
> unless she holds the "one time wipe" button on thru the whole cycle. Ford
> dealer is claiming that it is how it is suppose to work on the focus, but

I
> find it hard to believe. I would think you should only have to press it

and
> release it one quick time and it would run the complete cycle itself (like
> every other car I have ever owned). Can anyone please let me know if

theirs
> works the same way or if the dealer is feeding her a line.
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>



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