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Old 04-07-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
tekguy4
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Zetec Stumble and Stall

My 01 Focus S2 with Zetec was giving a bad DPFE code and had all the
signs/symptons associated but the car was still very driveable.
Yesterday it got worse, car would want to stall when idling and
occassionally would have no power for a few minutes then clear up and
run fine. I changed DPFE and reset computer by unhoooking battery for a
hour last nite. This cleared trouble code, but I am still having same
problem (although a little better than yesterday) on a 30mile ride into
work this morning it ran pretty good when cold, but once it warmed up
and I started hitting stop and go, it started stumbling bad, wanting to
stall, then it had no power for anout 5 miles (in middle of nowhere) so
I kept chuggin on, then all of a sudden it started running great for a
few mile befor acting up again. And again no trouble codes being given,
check engine light is off.

Anyone have any ideas?
I am considering going ahead and replacing EGR valve itself and
replacing fuel filter?
If i disconnect airhose to EGR valve the stumble stall shoud go away if
its the EGR, can the EGR get stuck open?
Could dealer have given me bad dpfe or one with wrong calibration?

Thanks for anyinput.

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Old 04-07-2005, 12:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

Disconnecting vacuum line to egr valve didnt help, if I understand
correct, this should caused the EGR to stay closed (which should have
cleared up the stumble if its egr or dpfe related) and the computer to
cause the check engine light to come on.

Result problem still there and no check engine light came on.

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Old 04-08-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

What kind of Focus is an S2 model?


"tekguy4" <tekguy4@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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My 01 Focus S2 with Zetec was giving a bad DPFE code and had all the
signs/symptons associated but the car was still very driveable.
Yesterday it got worse, car would want to stall when idling and
occassionally would have no power for a few minutes then clear up and
run fine. I changed DPFE and reset computer by unhoooking battery for a
hour last nite. This cleared trouble code, but I am still having same
problem (although a little better than yesterday) on a 30mile ride into
work this morning it ran pretty good when cold, but once it warmed up
and I started hitting stop and go, it started stumbling bad, wanting to
stall, then it had no power for anout 5 miles (in middle of nowhere) so
I kept chuggin on, then all of a sudden it started running great for a
few mile befor acting up again. And again no trouble codes being given,
check engine light is off.

Anyone have any ideas?
I am considering going ahead and replacing EGR valve itself and
replacing fuel filter?
If i disconnect airhose to EGR valve the stumble stall shoud go away if
its the EGR, can the EGR get stuck open?
Could dealer have given me bad dpfe or one with wrong calibration?

Thanks for anyinput.


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Old 04-09-2005, 11:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall


"Henri" <henri_latour@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What kind of Focus is an S2 model?
>
>

Series 2, or facelift version.

Tim..


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Old 04-09-2005, 14:01   #5 (permalink)
Henri
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

Must be a UK model.

The North American 2000 - 2003 Focus cars have a problem with the fuel
module ( pump), the problems you are having are similar to a fuel module
going bad.

"Tim.." <the.farm.hates.spam@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Henri" <henri_latour@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What kind of Focus is an S2 model?
>
>

Series 2, or facelift version.

Tim..



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Old 04-10-2005, 19:48   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

"Henri" <henri_latour@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Must be a UK model.


It's a limited edition North American model (2001 or 2002?) with a few minor
enhancements. If I remember correctly it has some suspension upgrades, a
spoiler on the rear hatch and a chrome exhaust tip.


HTH,
Bob


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Old 04-11-2005, 08:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

All s2's where American 2001 models with Liquid Grey Metallic Paint and
Dark Charcoal (black) interior with a unique (to the S2) pattern on the
seat and chrome exhaust tip.

The big enhancemnt was that S2's came with a different suspension
package.
In europe at that time focus's where sold with basically 3 suspension
packages from Ford. 'Soft', 'Medium' and 'Hard'

All american FOcuses where equipped to what is equivelant to the
European 'soft' suspension package. The S2 came with what basically
equals the 'medium' european suspension packege. From underneath the
car you can see S2 labels on various suspension pieces.

I never drove an SVT version, but I have driven a couple regular
focuses and mine does have a firmer more controlled feel on the road.

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Old 04-11-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

Anyways, friday I drove home from work fine, like car never had a
problem, saturday I drove 70 miles round trip to pick up a fuel pump,
car ran like new, no problems.

So saturday I did the following:
Replace PCV valve, replace fuel filter, changed oil, cleaned Air filter
(I have CAI), clean MAF and EGR valve, then added some fuel system
cleaner to tank. Car ran wonderfully all day saturday. (did not change
fuel pump as it was runnning great)

Sunday, I filled tank and car started running crappy again. (it runs
alot better than last week but car refuses to idle- it will just stall
out if I dont keep it revved above 1000rpm, also minor stumbling on
occasion)
I realized car for last 2 days was around 1/3 tank or less.

So I am assuimg that this weekend like it or not I am dropping tank and
changing pump. But from what I whave read and what seems obvious, fuel
pump issues usually get worse when tank gets lower, I seem to have
opposite. I will know for sure by friday if my car runs better as week
goes on (and tank gets lower).

Anyone have any thoughts? Since I am dropping tank (what a pain in the
ass that is going to be), I want to clean it out, any ideas or tips on
what works best to remove any residue or smudge that might be there?

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Old 04-11-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

"tekguy4" <tekguy4@hotmail.com> wrote:

> So I am assuimg that this weekend like it or not
> I am dropping tank and changing pump.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts? Since I am dropping tank
> (what a pain in the ass that is going to be),


Sure, let Ford do it for you...for free.
http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=37&did=848

--
Don

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are much more pliable.
~ Mark Twain



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Old 04-13-2005, 09:02   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Zetec Stumble and Stall

Checking out my coil I noticed the connection harness is brittle and
cracked.

I have just ordeered a new genuine ford coil ($39 delivered, gotta luv
ebay) to replace the old one.

Anyone know where I can source the 'harness' for my car, besides Ford,
called a couple dealers and cheapest price was $65 for a 4 prong
harness that costs maybe a dollar to produce.

Anyone know the coil-wire harness part number?

I can check junkyards and cut one out, but I have read these things get
brittle with age, so I would rather off buy a new one.



Thanks for any input.

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