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Old 11-28-2005, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
yisroel
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'04 Freestar (6k miles)

Bought it new 5 months ago.

Works fine, but the ENGINE is loud.

When standing outside it (idling) sounds like a truck.


I have noticed it since I bought it (new) months ago,
but just the other day when a friend with a Grand Caravan
drove into my yard it REALLY became obvious.

I don't know anything is "broken", but it sure sounds
like an inferior product.

Is there less sound insulation or something that a dealer might look at?

Just loud, like a diesel really.
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Old 11-28-2005, 16:01   #2 (permalink)
C. E. White
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Re: '04 Freestar (6k miles)


"yisroel" <yisroel@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yisroel-CE7EEC.16351528112005@news.verizon.net...
> Bought it new 5 months ago.
>
> Works fine, but the ENGINE is loud.
>
> When standing outside it (idling) sounds like a truck.
>
> I have noticed it since I bought it (new) months ago,
> but just the other day when a friend with a Grand Caravan
> drove into my yard it REALLY became obvious.
>
> I don't know anything is "broken", but it sure sounds
> like an inferior product.
>
> Is there less sound insulation or something that a dealer might look at?
>
> Just loud, like a diesel really.


Have you listened to a similar Freestar? I took a look at the information
at Cars.com and one of the "cons" listed for this model was engine noise.
Likewise Consumer Reports said " The engines are still noisy..." and "The
optional 201-hp, 4.2-liter V6 in our Freestar provides good performance, but
it sounds and feels harsh. A 3.9-liter V6 is standard." So it is possible
that your engine is "normal" for a Freestar at least. But I have not heard
one that sounded like a diesel, so I suggest that you at least ask the Ford
dealer to let you listen to a similar one to see if your is especially noisy
and possibly broken. I can't imagine that it can be any noiser than my SO's
Plymouth van's engine, so I do suggest you at least check further.

Ed


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Old 11-28-2005, 17:01   #3 (permalink)
yisroel
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Re: '04 Freestar (6k miles)

In article <ovLif.6503$N45.2986@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote:

> "yisroel" <yisroel@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yisroel-CE7EEC.16351528112005@news.verizon.net...
> > Bought it new 5 months ago.
> >
> > Works fine, but the ENGINE is loud.
> >
> > When standing outside it (idling) sounds like a truck.
> >
> > I have noticed it since I bought it (new) months ago,
> > but just the other day when a friend with a Grand Caravan
> > drove into my yard it REALLY became obvious.
> >
> > I don't know anything is "broken", but it sure sounds
> > like an inferior product.
> >
> > Is there less sound insulation or something that a dealer might look at?
> >
> > Just loud, like a diesel really.

>
> Have you listened to a similar Freestar? I took a look at the information
> at Cars.com and one of the "cons" listed for this model was engine noise.
> Likewise Consumer Reports said " The engines are still noisy..." and "The
> optional 201-hp, 4.2-liter V6 in our Freestar provides good performance, but
> it sounds and feels harsh. A 3.9-liter V6 is standard." So it is possible
> that your engine is "normal" for a Freestar at least. But I have not heard
> one that sounded like a diesel, so I suggest that you at least ask the Ford
> dealer to let you listen to a similar one to see if your is especially noisy
> and possibly broken. I can't imagine that it can be any noiser than my SO's
> Plymouth van's engine, so I do suggest you at least check further.
>
> Ed



Ed,

Thanks for thoughtful and informative response.

I will do just that.

All the best-

Yisroel
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Old 11-28-2005, 22:01   #4 (permalink)
Art
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Re: '04 Freestar (6k miles)

If you hear a Toyota or Honda van engine you will really feel bad.


"yisroel" <yisroel@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yisroel-50BAFC.18074028112005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <ovLif.6503$N45.2986@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> "C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> "yisroel" <yisroel@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yisroel-CE7EEC.16351528112005@news.verizon.net...
>> > Bought it new 5 months ago.
>> >
>> > Works fine, but the ENGINE is loud.
>> >
>> > When standing outside it (idling) sounds like a truck.
>> >
>> > I have noticed it since I bought it (new) months ago,
>> > but just the other day when a friend with a Grand Caravan
>> > drove into my yard it REALLY became obvious.
>> >
>> > I don't know anything is "broken", but it sure sounds
>> > like an inferior product.
>> >
>> > Is there less sound insulation or something that a dealer might look
>> > at?
>> >
>> > Just loud, like a diesel really.

>>
>> Have you listened to a similar Freestar? I took a look at the
>> information
>> at Cars.com and one of the "cons" listed for this model was engine noise.
>> Likewise Consumer Reports said " The engines are still noisy..." and "The
>> optional 201-hp, 4.2-liter V6 in our Freestar provides good performance,
>> but
>> it sounds and feels harsh. A 3.9-liter V6 is standard." So it is possible
>> that your engine is "normal" for a Freestar at least. But I have not
>> heard
>> one that sounded like a diesel, so I suggest that you at least ask the
>> Ford
>> dealer to let you listen to a similar one to see if your is especially
>> noisy
>> and possibly broken. I can't imagine that it can be any noiser than my
>> SO's
>> Plymouth van's engine, so I do suggest you at least check further.
>>
>> Ed

>
>
> Ed,
>
> Thanks for thoughtful and informative response.
>
> I will do just that.
>
> All the best-
>
> Yisroel



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Old 11-29-2005, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
Elwood
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Re: '04 Freestar (6k miles)

Typical american auto...And they wonder why the Japs are kicking their azzes


"yisroel" <yisroel@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:yisroel-50BAFC.18074028112005@news.verizon.net...
> In article <ovLif.6503$N45.2986@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> "C. E. White" <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> "yisroel" <yisroel@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yisroel-CE7EEC.16351528112005@news.verizon.net...
>> > Bought it new 5 months ago.
>> >
>> > Works fine, but the ENGINE is loud.
>> >
>> > When standing outside it (idling) sounds like a truck.
>> >
>> > I have noticed it since I bought it (new) months ago,
>> > but just the other day when a friend with a Grand Caravan
>> > drove into my yard it REALLY became obvious.
>> >
>> > I don't know anything is "broken", but it sure sounds
>> > like an inferior product.
>> >
>> > Is there less sound insulation or something that a dealer might look
>> > at?
>> >
>> > Just loud, like a diesel really.

>>
>> Have you listened to a similar Freestar? I took a look at the
>> information
>> at Cars.com and one of the "cons" listed for this model was engine noise.
>> Likewise Consumer Reports said " The engines are still noisy..." and "The
>> optional 201-hp, 4.2-liter V6 in our Freestar provides good performance,
>> but
>> it sounds and feels harsh. A 3.9-liter V6 is standard." So it is possible
>> that your engine is "normal" for a Freestar at least. But I have not
>> heard
>> one that sounded like a diesel, so I suggest that you at least ask the
>> Ford
>> dealer to let you listen to a similar one to see if your is especially
>> noisy
>> and possibly broken. I can't imagine that it can be any noiser than my
>> SO's
>> Plymouth van's engine, so I do suggest you at least check further.
>>
>> Ed

>
>
> Ed,
>
> Thanks for thoughtful and informative response.
>
> I will do just that.
>
> All the best-
>
> Yisroel



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Old 11-30-2005, 13:01   #6 (permalink)
joe schmoe
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Re: '04 Freestar (6k miles)

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:21:01 -0500, "Elwood" <EW@gset.net> wrote:

>Typical american auto...And they wonder why the Japs are kicking their azzes
>
>


Yeah that's gotta be it.

The crippling Health care and retirement packages don't have ANY
effect at all on the engineering, research or production budgets.

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Old 11-30-2005, 23:01   #7 (permalink)
Art
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Re: '04 Freestar (6k miles)

When GM was pulling in big bucks, instead of fixing their car designs they
bought Subaru, Saab and a bunch of other crap which they are now dumping.
Health care expenses has nothing to do with their mess. They have been
making crap for 35 years.


"joe schmoe" <me@virgin.not> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:21:01 -0500, "Elwood" <EW@gset.net> wrote:
>
>>Typical american auto...And they wonder why the Japs are kicking their
>>azzes
>>
>>

>
> Yeah that's gotta be it.
>
> The crippling Health care and retirement packages don't have ANY
> effect at all on the engineering, research or production budgets.
>



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