rkm

Hi, I have a couple questions regarding my 2000 Sable. First, is there a way
to manually retrieve the ecm codes like other mfgs, or do I have to get a
code reader?

Also, has anyone experienced poor gas milage? The car runs fine, plenty of
power, idles perfect etc. The car is only getting 13mpg and its the Duratek
engine. TIA.

Backyard Mechanic

"rkm" <1@1.com> wrote:

> Hi, I have a couple questions regarding my 2000 Sable. First, is there
> a way to manually retrieve the ecm codes like other mfgs, or do I have
> to get a code reader?
>
> Also, has anyone experienced poor gas milage? The car runs fine,
> plenty of power, idles perfect etc. The car is only getting 13mpg and
> its the Duratek engine. TIA.
>
>

Go to autozone or other parts store that reads them free, insist on getting
codes, themselves.

Are you doing ALL City driving?

When my fuel reg went out, and it was running rich as he!! I got better
than that.

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rkm

Thats my point, can I get the codes myself without relying on someone else?
Like using a paper clip on GM's or turning the key back and forth 3 times on
Dodges. Its one thing at a time, but if I can get the codes myself I would
feel alot better. I am sure there is a fault stored, but if I can get the
code and cross it I will will feel alot better. 13mpg is rediculus, at that
point I should have bought a SUV. Oh and yes, I do mainly city driving, but
it is pretty steady at about 35 - 45 with minimal stop and go.


"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9762BACFC61A5pettyfogery@207.115.17.102...
> "rkm" <1@1.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I have a couple questions regarding my 2000 Sable. First, is there
>> a way to manually retrieve the ecm codes like other mfgs, or do I have
>> to get a code reader?
>>
>> Also, has anyone experienced poor gas milage? The car runs fine,
>> plenty of power, idles perfect etc. The car is only getting 13mpg and
>> its the Duratek engine. TIA.
>>
>>
>
> Go to autozone or other parts store that reads them free, insist on
> getting
> codes, themselves.
>
> Are you doing ALL City driving?
>
> When my fuel reg went out, and it was running rich as he!! I got better
> than that.
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!

Ted

First, you cannot retreive dtc's without a scan tool, and second, a scan
tool will be able to accurately measure fuel mileage, a lot more so that the
old 'fill the tank and check the odometer' method.

"rkm" <1@1.com> wrote in message news:IMednWFOZZh-U3reRVn-sA@qx.net...
> Hi, I have a couple questions regarding my 2000 Sable. First, is there a
> way
> to manually retrieve the ecm codes like other mfgs, or do I have to get a
> code reader?
>
> Also, has anyone experienced poor gas milage? The car runs fine, plenty of
> power, idles perfect etc. The car is only getting 13mpg and its the
> Duratek
> engine. TIA.
>

im

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:55:10 -0500, rkm wrote:

> Thats my point, can I get the codes myself without relying on someone else?

http://obddiagnostics.com/

This scanner connects to a laptop through a serial port. I have been
using it successfully for a couple of years now on multiple cars.
Saves a lot of aggravation when dealing with recurring problems.

Imre

Andrew Rossmann

In article <IMednWFOZZh-U3reRVn-sA@qx.net>, 1@1.com says...
> Also, has anyone experienced poor gas milage? The car runs fine, plenty of
> power, idles perfect etc. The car is only getting 13mpg and its the Duratek
> engine. TIA.

I do mostly suburban/city driving, and get in the high teens. I guess
the first thing to check is the air filter. If it's never been replaced,
it's probably badly clogged.

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Andrew Rossmann <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote:


> I do mostly suburban/city driving, and get in the high teens. I
> guess
> the first thing to check is the air filter. If it's never been
> replaced, it's probably badly clogged.
>

Hmmm... how would that affect the mileage that much? I mean he says it
runs fine...

listening to the "gas mileage experts" on the 6 o'clock news, are you?


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