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Per the UAW's figures at http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm , $25.63 x
2080 hours worked a year is $51465.04 base pay, not including holidays,
overtime, the company's FICA (7.65% of pay about $3900.00 base )
contribution, the company's provided healthcare and other benefits. The
company's contribution to each employee can easily cost half again as much
as the employees base pay per year.
The whole package has a price tag of well over $65,000.00 per employee, and
that is in second quarter 2003 figures.
"John Bailo" <jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
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>
> Perhaps, but my calculations put actual annual salary more at $54,000 --
> if you phrase it the way most people would.
>
>
> Frank from Deeeetroit wrote:
>> http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm
>>
>> This link will proved the hourly rate of pay for straight time pay for
>> labor and skilled trades for UAW workers as of 2003. With health care,
>> employer FICA contributions, and other benefits, $65,000.00 is not an
>> unreasonable amount, perhaps a conservative amount.
>>
>>
>> "John Bailo" <jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
>> news:43D916BD.4090203@texeme.com...
>>
>>>jismquiff@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>We're told this week that the average annual wage for
>>>>a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000!
>>>
>>>BTW -- could you post a link to this "fact".
>>>
>>>I've been googling for it and can't find any references...
>>
>>
All kidding aside, that is quite a hefty pulldown -- especially when you
consider that there may be two breadwinners in the family.
The upper 20% of Americans make an average of around $110,000 -- so a
family with two line workers doing overtime would easily be considered
"upper middle class" in terms of income.
Frank from Deeeetroit wrote:
> I should clarify my last post.
>
> Per the UAW's figures at http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm , $25.63 x
> 2080 hours worked a year is $51465.04 base pay, not including holidays,
> overtime, the company's FICA (7.65% of pay about $3900.00 base )
> contribution, the company's provided healthcare and other benefits. The
> company's contribution to each employee can easily cost half again as much
> as the employees base pay per year.
>
> The whole package has a price tag of well over $65,000.00 per employee, and
> that is in second quarter 2003 figures.
>
>
> "John Bailo" <jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
> news:43DA6F9A.1050307@texeme.com...
>
>>Perhaps, but my calculations put actual annual salary more at $54,000 --
>>if you phrase it the way most people would.
>>
>>
>>Frank from Deeeetroit wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm
>>>
>>>This link will proved the hourly rate of pay for straight time pay for
>>>labor and skilled trades for UAW workers as of 2003. With health care,
>>>employer FICA contributions, and other benefits, $65,000.00 is not an
>>>unreasonable amount, perhaps a conservative amount.
>>>
>>>
>>>"John Bailo" <jabailo@texeme.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43D916BD.4090203@texeme.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>jismquiff@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>We're told this week that the average annual wage for
>>>>>a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000!
>>>>
>>>>BTW -- could you post a link to this "fact".
>>>>
>>>>I've been googling for it and can't find any references...
>>>
>>>
>
Not either. The good Lord made it possible for me to be able to afford
five cars . '41 Continental convertible, '64 Mustang V8 convertible, 72 LTD
Brougham HT, 83 Continental Mark VI Signature, 05 Mustang GT convertible and
a 06 Lincoln Zephyr. LOL
mike hunt
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> For once you are correct, I own five LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> You are either stupid as hell or senile as hell then
>
>Not either. The good Lord made it possible for me to be able to afford
>five cars . '41 Continental convertible, '64 Mustang V8 convertible, 72 LTD
>Brougham HT, 83 Continental Mark VI Signature, 05 Mustang GT convertible and
>a 06 Lincoln Zephyr. LOL
The good Lord prefers that top-posting, lying idiots like you not
invoke His name.
>I should clarify my last post.
>
>Per the UAW's figures at http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm , $25.63 x
>2080 hours worked a year is $51465.04 base pay, not including holidays,
>overtime,
Umm... How do you get 2080 hours in a year "not including holidays
and overtime"? Mistakes like this make like this make anything you
say suspicious.
>the company's FICA (7.65% of pay about $3900.00 base )
>contribution, the company's provided healthcare and other benefits. The
>company's contribution to each employee can easily cost half again as much
>as the employees base pay per year.
Says you, a person who is less than accurate, to say the least.
>The whole package has a price tag of well over $65,000.00 per employee, and
>that is in second quarter 2003 figures.
You only wish he was as good to you. You forgot to sign Idiot to your post
this time I see but we know it you LOL
mike hunt
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>>Not either. The good Lord made it possible for me to be able to afford
>>five cars . '41 Continental convertible, '64 Mustang V8 convertible, 72
>>LTD
>>Brougham HT, 83 Continental Mark VI Signature, 05 Mustang GT convertible
>>and
>>a 06 Lincoln Zephyr. LOL
>
> The good Lord prefers that top-posting, lying idiots like you not
> invoke His name.
>
2080 is the normal 40 hour work week per year including vacation time .
Over eight and over 40 hours are overtime as well as the overtime premium
paid for holidays worked
mike hunt
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Frank from Deeeetroit wrote:
>
>>I should clarify my last post.
>>
>>Per the UAW's figures at http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm , $25.63 x
>>2080 hours worked a year is $51465.04 base pay, not including holidays,
>>overtime,
>
> Umm... How do you get 2080 hours in a year "not including holidays
> and overtime"? Mistakes like this make like this make anything you
> say suspicious.
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:podlt11qt9h22j9fr5kvpie17h7rd04qcr@4ax.com...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>>Not either. The good Lord made it possible for me to be able to afford
>>five cars . '41 Continental convertible, '64 Mustang V8 convertible, 72
>>LTD
>>Brougham HT, 83 Continental Mark VI Signature, 05 Mustang GT convertible
>>and
>>a 06 Lincoln Zephyr. LOL
>
> The good Lord prefers that top-posting, lying idiots like you not
> invoke His name.
>
40 hours a week times 52 weeks a year equals 2080 hours worked, base pay.
Read your check stub to make sure your boss is not ripping you off.
7.65% is any employers FICA contribution foreach employee, just call your
payroll department. You should know what your boss takes out of your
paycheck,eh?
As far as my "well over" comment, fringe benefits are paid for by your
employer, that cost plus the cost of your hourly wages combine to make the
total cost the employer pays the employee. Your payroll department and/or
your union rep should have explained all of this to you when you began your
employment. In the case of the $51,000.00 base hourly wage, these other
costs will account for the total cost being over $65,000.00
Frank
"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Frank from Deeeetroit wrote:
>
>>I should clarify my last post.
>>
>>Per the UAW's figures at http://www.uaw.org/barg/03/barg02.cfm , $25.63 x
>>2080 hours worked a year is $51465.04 base pay, not including holidays,
>>overtime,
>
> Umm... How do you get 2080 hours in a year "not including holidays
> and overtime"? Mistakes like this make like this make anything you
> say suspicious.
>
>>the company's FICA (7.65% of pay about $3900.00 base )
>>contribution, the company's provided healthcare and other benefits. The
>>company's contribution to each employee can easily cost half again as much
>>as the employees base pay per year.
>
> Says you, a person who is less than accurate, to say the least.
>
>>The whole package has a price tag of well over $65,000.00 per employee,
>>and
>>that is in second quarter 2003 figures.
>
> Define "well over", Mr Facts.
>
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