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Old 01-25-2006, 10:01   #31 (permalink)
Mike Hunter
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

$65,000 is not the annual wage, it is the total cost per employee. That
figure includes benefits and managements portion of their FICA.


mike hunt



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> jismquiff@yahoo.com wrote:


>> Of course, in South Korea, such workers make about 20 percent of the
>> $65, 000 the American schlubs '"earn."



 
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Old 01-25-2006, 10:01   #32 (permalink)
badgolferman
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

Learning Richard, 1/25/2006, 8:54:04 AM,
<1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be $32.50
> an hour.
>
> taken a look at your electric bill lately?


If minimum wage = $32.50
Then loaf of bread = $16.75
 
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Old 01-25-2006, 10:01   #33 (permalink)
Learning Richard
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!


badgolferman wrote:
> Learning Richard, 1/25/2006, 8:54:04 AM,
> <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be $32.50
> > an hour.
> >
> > taken a look at your electric bill lately?

>
> If minimum wage = $32.50
> Then loaf of bread = $16.75


We could swing that without an extra dime of expense if we cut down on
things like YOUR (Republican) elected officials accepting bribes and
payoffs from corrupt lobbyists.

 
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:01   #34 (permalink)
gosinn@gmail.com
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!


Dan J.S. wrote:
> <jismquiff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1138142710.343858.136720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > The mammoth troubles facing GM, Ford and their auto parts makers are
> > merely a symptom of the global leveling of manufacturing that has been
> > underway for some years.
> >
> > Stop and think. We're told this week that the average annual wage for
> > a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000! Where
> > else in the world can an uneducated, ignorant, untalented, unskilled
> > slob who tightens bolts make anything approaching that figure?
> > Especially when working for a company that can't move its inventory of
> > unwanted products!
> >
> > At least in Germany, where auto workers' pay is nearly comparable to
> > their U.S. counterparts, those employees possess technical skills plus
> > a minimum high-school education.
> >
> > Of course, in South Korea, such workers make about 20 percent of the
> > $65, 000 the American schlubs '"earn." But the Koreans at least
> > possess real skills and a real education. And in China, $650 a year
> > is real good.
> >
> > So get used to less, beer-bellied Amer'cun slobs! The good old days
> > are never coming again - except for those with education and genuine
> > 21st century skills! Globalism is eatin' your lunch!
> >
> > Really no surprise.
> >

>
> Funny how you think $65k is a lot of money. You must not get out much.


We are talking about wages competing with workers in China
If they get $65.000 in US and $650 in China for the same job then is no
wonder that management is moving jobs to China

 
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:01   #35 (permalink)
Mike Hunter
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

It IS the fault of blue collar workers and well as other US workers. They
are the people that are sending their OWN jobs oversees, every time they buy
imported products thinking they are saving a few dollars. It is the
American consumer that is sending their jobs to low wage states when they
buy vehicles like the Camry and Tundra that are only assembled in the US of
mostly foreign parts yet cost 20% to 30% more to drive home. Then Toyota
sends its profits to Japan tax free.


mike hunt



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.. Show a little
> compassion, for the blue collar worker is NOT the one sending jobs over
> seas for quick profit-&-run deals.... Good day!
>



 
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:01   #36 (permalink)
Learning Richard
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!


Mike Hunter wrote:
> It IS the fault of blue collar workers and well as other US workers. They
> are the people that are sending their OWN jobs oversees, every time they buy
> imported products thinking they are saving a few dollars. It is the


God help us all, I agree.

> American consumer that is sending their jobs to low wage states when they
> buy vehicles like the Camry and Tundra that are only assembled in the US of
> mostly foreign parts yet cost 20% to 30% more to drive home. Then Toyota
> sends its profits to Japan tax free.


The bitter irony is brought to light by Wal-Mart's famous "Buy
American" campaign in the late 80s and early 90s, before they were
exposed for putting small American manufacturers out of business while
they reaped the profits of Asian slave labor and duped the entire US
working class at the same time.

 
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:01   #37 (permalink)
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

Hi Mike,

I was at the dentist yesterday and had plenty of time to read Motor Trend's
car of the year issue. If you page thru and review all of the new cars, the
US makes are pretty pathetic or in the case of the new Ford Fusion and it's
twins, overpriced and as yet untested. The GM models are particularly bad.


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:jQ-dnQ7wioP4LkreUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> It IS the fault of blue collar workers and well as other US workers.
> They are the people that are sending their OWN jobs oversees, every time
> they buy imported products thinking they are saving a few dollars. It is
> the American consumer that is sending their jobs to low wage states when
> they buy vehicles like the Camry and Tundra that are only assembled in the
> US of mostly foreign parts yet cost 20% to 30% more to drive home. Then
> Toyota sends its profits to Japan tax free.
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
>
> "JayR" <jryder.10@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1138162544.819053.94040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> . Show a little
>> compassion, for the blue collar worker is NOT the one sending jobs over
>> seas for quick profit-&-run deals.... Good day!
>>

>
>



 
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:01   #38 (permalink)
C. E. White
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!


"Moe" <"Moe"@BubbleLand.USA> wrote in message
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> jismquiff@yahoo.com wrote:


> Oh well, times change. Nothing stays the same forever, nothing.
> Toyota and Honda will soon be running and winning in NASCAR races.


I don't know about Honda, but NASCAR is perfect for Toyota. Boring 30 year
old designed running around in circles. Fits right in with the Toyota design
strategy - polished turds. Oh what a feeling.

Ed



 
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:01   #39 (permalink)
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

Turds? Is that is why Toyota calls their racing division, TRD? ;)


mike hunt


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>
> "Moe" <"Moe"@BubbleLand.USA> wrote in message
> news:CHFBf.2662$2o5.1353@dukeread11...
>> jismquiff@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>> Oh well, times change. Nothing stays the same forever, nothing.
>> Toyota and Honda will soon be running and winning in NASCAR races.

>
> I don't know about Honda, but NASCAR is perfect for Toyota. Boring 30 year
> old designed running around in circles. Fits right in with the Toyota
> design
> strategy - polished turds. Oh what a feeling.
>
> Ed
>
>
>



 
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Old 01-25-2006, 13:01   #40 (permalink)
Mike Hunter
 
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Re: $65,000 A Year? Bye, U.S. Auto Workers!

That may be their editorial opinion but you can't prove it by me. The
buying public is who make the ultimate decision as to which is better, when
they buy what they buy. The fact is they buy more vehicles from GM and Ford
than any other manufacture. Personally I have not had a bad car, foreign or
domestic, in over 25 years. The only difference I'm seeing today is I have
been buying my domestics for a lot less money than when I was buying foreign
and they have proven to be just as reliable. ;)


mike hunt


"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Mike,
>
> I was at the dentist yesterday and had plenty of time to read Motor
> Trend's car of the year issue. If you page thru and review all of the new
> cars, the US makes are pretty pathetic or in the case of the new Ford
> Fusion and it's twins, overpriced and as yet untested. The GM models are
> particularly bad.
>
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:jQ-dnQ7wioP4LkreUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> It IS the fault of blue collar workers and well as other US workers. They
>> are the people that are sending their OWN jobs oversees, every time they
>> buy imported products thinking they are saving a few dollars. It is the
>> American consumer that is sending their jobs to low wage states when they
>> buy vehicles like the Camry and Tundra that are only assembled in the US
>> of mostly foreign parts yet cost 20% to 30% more to drive home. Then
>> Toyota sends its profits to Japan tax free.
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>>
>> "JayR" <jryder.10@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1138162544.819053.94040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> . Show a little
>>> compassion, for the blue collar worker is NOT the one sending jobs over
>>> seas for quick profit-&-run deals.... Good day!
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
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