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> $65K... HAHA That's with EVERYTHING included into an estimated salaried
> number, guy I USED to WORK for GM in a factory... and I'm telling you
> from the horses MOUTH, ONLY the people that have been working there for
> over 20+ YEARS make anywhere from 40-50K/yr and many of them that's
> with TONS of overtime. $65K is an estimate with the WHOLE healthcare,
> pension plain accounted for!
Sean Elkins wrote:
> In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be $32.50
> > an hour.
> >
> > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
>
> You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts and
> almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go and reset
> yourself to zero by posting something as complete insane as this.
Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans are
famous for. Use your noggin.
I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In order
for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern oil and
asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat, crooked
Republicans will have none of that.
dizzy wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:45:10 -0800, jismquiff wrote:
>
> > Stop and think. We're told this week that the average annual wage for
> > a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000!
>
> Nonsense. Their "wage" is not NEARLY that high. I could believe the
> total cost to employ the person might be something like that...
Learning Richard wrote:
> dizzy wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:45:10 -0800, jismquiff wrote:
> >
> > > Stop and think. We're told this week that the average annual wage for
> > > a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000!
> >
> > Nonsense. Their "wage" is not NEARLY that high. I could believe the
> > total cost to employ the person might be something like that...
>
> overtime
Then again, someone _did_ set the record straight. The figure includes
a helluva lot more than takehome pay. I'd say its just about enough to
give a working American a quality of life that is worth living.
Republicans... jesus christ. First they bitch about welfare and
entitlement programs (which make up a tiny portion of the federal
budget), then they bitch because some folks actually make enough money
to put food on the table and pay their bills.
I say send all the Republican ****wads over to Iraq to fight their war.
> That may be their editorial opinion but you can't prove it by me. The
> buying public is who make the ultimate decision as to which is better, when
> they buy what they buy.
In your other post, you complain that Americans buy foreign cars
that they perceive to be a better value. Idiot.
>
> dizzy wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:26:12 -0500, Franky Furter wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmmm...isnt $65k about the average wage in America nowadays?
> >
> > No surprise that a top poster would say something as stupid as
> > that. The average wage is close to $40k.
>
> true.
>
> >
> > > If you are
> > > making under $50k with 3 kids you are at the poverty level.
> >
> > Wrong again.
>
> not true. Try raising even one kid on 50k. Almost impossible without
> those dreaded entitlement programs.
That depends where you live. I support a wife and two kids, albeit we
sacrifice many things, and I am below your threshold.
--
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the
support of Paul." ~ George Bernard Shaw
>
> Sean Elkins wrote:
> > In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be
> > > $32.50 an hour.
> > >
> > > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
> >
> > You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts and
> > almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go and
> > reset yourself to zero by posting something as complete insane as
> > this.
>
> Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans
> are famous for. Use your noggin.
>
> I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In order
> for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern oil and
> asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat, crooked
> Republicans will have none of that.
> >
> > Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
>
> I understand basic fascism as well.
We have just been subjected to back-pedaling and changing the subject.
Two of Learning Richard's stronger characteristics.
--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy." ~ Winston Churchill
badgolferman wrote:
> Learning Richard, 1/25/2006,8:12:11 PM, wrote:
>
> >
> > Sean Elkins wrote:
> > > In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be
> > > > $32.50 an hour.
> > > >
> > > > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
> > >
> > > You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts and
> > > almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go and
> > > reset yourself to zero by posting something as complete insane as
> > > this.
> >
> > Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans
> > are famous for. Use your noggin.
> >
> > I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In order
> > for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern oil and
> > asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat, crooked
> > Republicans will have none of that.
> > >
> > > Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
> >
> > I understand basic fascism as well.
>
>
> We have just been subjected to back-pedaling and changing the subject.
> Two of Learning Richard's stronger characteristics.
Are personal attacks your way of making up for a small penis or what?
You're a fascist. That's something you WON'T backpedal on. Your poor
poor children -- raised in an atmosphere of caste and fear. :(
"Dan J.S." <me@hyperx.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Franky Furter" <Frank@furter.com> wrote in message
> news:11tdld4c1mped13@corp.supernews.com...
> > Y'all gots to remember that GM Ford and Chrys. can not import there
cars
> > like the Japanese import cars to the US, so its really an uneven
trade.
> > And its also the old saying someone elses Ice is always colder.
> > The people in the US will sell out to any body given the opportunity to
> > either save a buck or to keep up with the jones's and about 20 years
ago
> > the Jones's bought a Japanese car.
>
> Actually Ford was profitable in Europe and Asia - it lost money in the US.
> So it exports and makes money there. Just not here.
>
>
Yes but they export nowhere near what the japanese export because of
tariffs. Its really an uneven playing field.
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Learning Richard wrote:
>> dizzy wrote:
>> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:45:10 -0800, jismquiff wrote:
>> >
>> > > Stop and think. We're told this week that the average annual wage
>> > > for
>> > > a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000!
>> >
>> > Nonsense. Their "wage" is not NEARLY that high. I could believe the
>> > total cost to employ the person might be something like that...
>>
>> overtime
>
> Then again, someone _did_ set the record straight. The figure includes
> a helluva lot more than takehome pay. I'd say its just about enough to
> give a working American a quality of life that is worth living.
>
> Republicans... jesus christ. First they bitch about welfare and
> entitlement programs (which make up a tiny portion of the federal
> budget), then they bitch because some folks actually make enough money
> to put food on the table and pay their bills.
>
> I say send all the Republican ****wads over to Iraq to fight their war.
>
aggressive democrat lead unions is what is causing these companies to go
under...
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