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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:06:34 -0600, Dan J.S. wrote:
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1138238444.600973.19820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> I say send all the Republican ****wads over to Iraq to fight their war.
>
> aggressive democrat lead unions
That came to be because workers were being abused by the wealthy elite...
>is what is causing these companies to go under...
It's one of the factors, no doubt. The unions served their purpose at one
time, but they've become somewhat obsolete and self-destructive.
Dan J.S. wrote:
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1138238444.600973.19820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Learning Richard wrote:
> >> dizzy wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:45:10 -0800, jismquiff wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Stop and think. We're told this week that the average annual wage
> >> > > for
> >> > > a Ford family production line worker is an astounding $65,000!
> >> >
> >> > Nonsense. Their "wage" is not NEARLY that high. I could believe the
> >> > total cost to employ the person might be something like that...
> >>
> >> overtime
> >
> > Then again, someone _did_ set the record straight. The figure includes
> > a helluva lot more than takehome pay. I'd say its just about enough to
> > give a working American a quality of life that is worth living.
> >
> > Republicans... jesus christ. First they bitch about welfare and
> > entitlement programs (which make up a tiny portion of the federal
> > budget), then they bitch because some folks actually make enough money
> > to put food on the table and pay their bills.
> >
> > I say send all the Republican ****wads over to Iraq to fight their war.
> >
>
> aggressive democrat lead unions is what is causing these companies to go
> under...
Dan, there's two reasons you're a moron, based on the above sentence
fragment:
1. Its Democratic, not Democrat.
2. Its the wealthy, crooked, Republican CEOs who are writing checks
with their lying mouths that you and I are going to have to cover.
dizzy wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:06:34 -0600, Dan J.S. wrote:
>
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138238444.600973.19820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >> I say send all the Republican ****wads over to Iraq to fight their war.
> >
> > aggressive democrat lead unions
>
> That came to be because workers were being abused by the wealthy elite...
yep. Dan, ever heard of the SEIU?
probably not. Why would you have?
>
> >is what is causing these companies to go under...
>
> It's one of the factors, no doubt. The unions served their purpose at one
> time, but they've become somewhat obsolete and self-destructive.
Ahh tasty pablum. Unions have not become obsolete even though
Republicans have tried to cast them into obsolescence.
Republicans made promises around the time I was born to the Unions, and
now they refuse to take a pay cut (8, 9 and 10 digit yearly salaries,
all told) to cover those promises.
I'm quite sure that baby Ford, the charlatain at the helm of FoMoCo,
hasn't sacrificed one fish egg.
So, they pass the costs onto you, the consumer, and attempt to pad in
$3000 extra cost (over and above the cost of Japanese cars) into their
dumpy, cheap cars before one shard of metal even hits the front of the
assembly line. When consumers don't want their shoddy crap, they just
start firing, from the bottom up.
Personally, I think the Ford "Five Hundred" looks like a hulking piece
of shit. You won't catch me even test-driving one.
Its just plain bullshit that American citizens are going to foot the
bill for Republican greed and excess.
In article <1138237931.543338.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean Elkins wrote:
> > In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be $32.50
> > > an hour.
> > >
> > > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
> >
> > You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts and
> > almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go and reset
> > yourself to zero by posting something as complete insane as this.
>
> Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans are
> famous for. Use your noggin.
>
> I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In order
> for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern oil and
> asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat, crooked
> Republicans will have none of that.
>
>
> >
> > Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
>
> I understand basic fascism as well.
Wow, you managed to incorporate name calling, unwarranted labeling,
stereotyping and hate-filled pre-programmed partisan mudslinging all
into a single response.
When someone swings as far to the extreme as this response it dilutes
the reasonable things they otherwise say.
It would appear that you're just the opposite but equal side of the
right-wing extremists you so often deride in this forum.
Oh, and if you can't raise a kid on $50K you might consider a visit to
Appalachia to see how it's done for 1/3 of that amount.
> In article <1138237931.543338.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sean Elkins wrote:
> > > In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be
> > > > $32.50 an hour.
> > > >
> > > > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
> > >
> > > You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts
> > > and almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go
> > > and reset yourself to zero by posting something as complete
> > > insane as this.
> >
> > Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans
> > are famous for. Use your noggin.
> >
> > I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In
> > order for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern
> > oil and asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat,
> > crooked Republicans will have none of that.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
> >
> > I understand basic fascism as well.
>
> Wow, you managed to incorporate name calling, unwarranted labeling,
> stereotyping and hate-filled pre-programmed partisan mudslinging all
> into a single response.
>
> When someone swings as far to the extreme as this response it dilutes
> the reasonable things they otherwise say.
>
> It would appear that you're just the opposite but equal side of the
> right-wing extremists you so often deride in this forum.
>
> Oh, and if you can't raise a kid on $50K you might consider a visit
> to Appalachia to see how it's done for 1/3 of that amount.
You are rather intelligent in your judgement. Now you see what we have
to deal with constantly. It's clear bridges have been burned all
around him. Learning Richard is fast becoming an island, especially
one FAR out there.
--
"Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." ~
Flannery O'Connor
> > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa.
> >
> > Richard once again demonstrates his deep knowledge of basic
> > economics.
>
> That's right. Racists like you would rather shoot-to-kill those on
> the minimum wage
You're in rare form tonight.
--
A communist is someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
A conservative is someone who reads Jefferson and Madison.
A libertarian is someone who understands Jefferson and Madison.
Sean Elkins wrote:
> In article <1138237931.543338.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sean Elkins wrote:
> > > In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be $32.50
> > > > an hour.
> > > >
> > > > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
> > >
> > > You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts and
> > > almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go and reset
> > > yourself to zero by posting something as complete insane as this.
> >
> > Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans are
> > famous for. Use your noggin.
> >
> > I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In order
> > for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern oil and
> > asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat, crooked
> > Republicans will have none of that.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
> >
> > I understand basic fascism as well.
>
> Wow, you managed to incorporate name calling, unwarranted labeling,
> stereotyping and hate-filled pre-programmed partisan mudslinging all
> into a single response.
And you just managed to say a whole bunch of nothing.
Which part of what I said is false?
I don't hate neocons. I just feel better when they're on the front
battle lines fighting wrong-headed wars, and in prison, where they
belong. And.... you're right, I am completely stereotyping
Republicans. The whole lot of them. A bunch of crooked pussies.
Either through their own actions or through complicity.
>
> When someone swings as far to the extreme as this response it dilutes
> the reasonable things they otherwise say.
Oh you're mr. moderate. No room for that in a climate where thousands
of American Citizens are being sent to their deaths at young ages while
those in power are facing felony charges. Maybe you're willing to be a
doormat for the excesses of our current leadership... but that's your
choice. Don't blame me.
>
> It would appear that you're just the opposite but equal side of the
> right-wing extremists you so often deride in this forum.
Appearances can, of course, be deceiving.
>
> Oh, and if you can't raise a kid on $50K you might consider a visit to
> Appalachia to see how it's done for 1/3 of that amount.
OK my man... and the economy of Appalachia resembles the economy of the
fifth largest metropolitan area (BW) in the Unites States in what way
again? Ahh typical neocon psychosis... only look at the part that
confirms what the voices in your head (and the O'Reilly Factor) are
telling you.
badgolferman wrote:
> Sean Elkins, 1/25/2006,11:18:18 PM, wrote:
>
> > In article <1138237931.543338.113430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sean Elkins wrote:
> > > > In article <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be
> > > > > $32.50 an hour.
> > > > >
> > > > > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
> > > >
> > > > You know Richard, there are times when I read some of your posts
> > > > and almost see a glimmer of rationality in them----> then you go
> > > > and reset yourself to zero by posting something as complete
> > > > insane as this.
> > >
> > > Think outside of the box and soundbyte-based-groupthink Republicans
> > > are famous for. Use your noggin.
> > >
> > > I never said it was reasonable in practice, I used 'should'. In
> > > order for that to work we'd have to stop relying on middle eastern
> > > oil and asian slave labor. But free-trade-pact happy, greedy, fat,
> > > crooked Republicans will have none of that.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you understand nothing of basic economics?
> > >
> > > I understand basic fascism as well.
> >
> > Wow, you managed to incorporate name calling, unwarranted labeling,
> > stereotyping and hate-filled pre-programmed partisan mudslinging all
> > into a single response.
> >
> > When someone swings as far to the extreme as this response it dilutes
> > the reasonable things they otherwise say.
> >
> > It would appear that you're just the opposite but equal side of the
> > right-wing extremists you so often deride in this forum.
> >
> > Oh, and if you can't raise a kid on $50K you might consider a visit
> > to Appalachia to see how it's done for 1/3 of that amount.
>
Stop setting the followups dipshit. You afraid of your words being
x-posted? Hmmm?
> You are rather intelligent in your judgement. Now you see what we have
> to deal with constantly. It's clear bridges have been burned all
> around him. Learning Richard is fast becoming an island, especially
> one FAR out there.
personal attacks again bgm? You really need to crack that big book.
RSCamaro wrote:
> On 25 Jan 2006 08:48:04 -0800, "Learning Richard"
> <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >We could swing that without an extra dime of expense if we cut down on
> >things like YOUR (Republican) elected officials accepting bribes and
> >payoffs from corrupt lobbyists.
>
> They are all corrupt! It doesn't matter which party they are
> affiliated with. From the start of the term to the end its all about
> getting re-elected. If you think otherwise then you have a rather
> large set of blinders over your eyes.
Who is in power in Washington right now?
I speak, as Don Rummy likes to say, of "the facts on the ground".
The corruption on Capitol Hill AND in the White House is unprecedented
and unmatched in US history. And, Republicans control Capitol Hill and
the White House.
badgolferman wrote:
> Learning Richard, 1/25/2006, 8:54:04 AM,
> <1138197244.456346.93500@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > 65,000 a year should be minimum wage in the usa. That would be $32.50
> > an hour.
> >
> > taken a look at your electric bill lately?
>
> If minimum wage = $32.50
> Then loaf of bread = $16.75
Yeah right... and if the USA unemployment rate falls below 6%, the
inflation genie will be let out of the bottle.
You still wear wide ties and flared polyester too?
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