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Old 07-05-2005, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
bravecougar@webtv.net
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93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

yesterday i ran out of gas , my gas gauage doesnt work , anyway i put
gas in the car and tryed to start it and it started right uo put sounded
like an old airplane sputtering and making air noises , it wouldnt stay
running for any length of time , and then wouldnt start at all except
for the starter motor turning if you can understand my description i
hope someone can please help if you need more infoi will do m best thank
you
Susan

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Old 07-05-2005, 20:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 18:56:02 -0400, bravecougar@webtv.net
wrote:

>yesterday i ran out of gas , my gas gauage doesnt work , anyway i put
>gas in the car and tryed to start it and it started right uo put sounded
>like an old airplane sputtering and making air noises , it wouldnt stay
>running for any length of time , and then wouldnt start at all except
>for the starter motor turning if you can understand my description i
>hope someone can please help if you need more infoi will do m best thank
>you
>Susan



When you ran it out of gas, you may have fried your fuel
pump. It depends upon the fuel in which it is immersed for
cooling. When the gas guage doesn't work, you have to fill
it frequently to make sure it doesn't run out.

Lugnut
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:01   #3 (permalink)
bravecougar@webtv.net
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

lugnut, you were absolutely no help whatsoev
DUH
now could someone give me some real help?

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Old 07-06-2005, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
Bob
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help


<bravecougar@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> lugnut, you were absolutely no help whatsoev
> DUH
> now could someone give me some real help?
>


No one can diagnose your car for you without some specific information. For
starters, what's your fuel pressure? If you can't provide that tidbit of
information don't piss and moan about whatever help you do or don't get.....
Bob


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Old 07-06-2005, 13:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help


<bravecougar@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22047-42CBFC7B-3@storefull-3112.bay.webtv.net...
> lugnut, you were absolutely no help whatsoev
> DUH
> now could someone give me some real help?
>


Do you even understand what he's telling you? MAY BE A BAD PUMP- NO
FUEL BEING PUMPED!


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Old 07-06-2005, 13:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

Let me guess, you're not a mechanic and you're car is busted. You come
to usenet for free advice and you're not happy with what's been
offered.

BOO FREAKIN HOO. Get a mechanic or a manual and git-r-done yourself.

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Old 07-06-2005, 13:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

You may have a damaged fuel pump, a clogged filter, or a bad or clogged
injector. There also might just be air in the fuel rails.

First, do you hear the fuel pump run when you turn the key to on, before
going to the start position? Probably. Next, find a fuel pressure gauge
that is designed to connect to the fuel rail fitting that looks like a tire
valve. There should be one on each side of the engine. If I remember right,
the fuel rails are bright metal. If you can get the car to run, report the
pressure readings here. Expect somewhere over 30 lbs. Don't use a tire
gauge.

If you have never changed the fuel filter, get one when you get the gauge.
They are cheap and aren't hard to replace, they sit right in front of the
rear drivers side wheel. Replace the filter first. Usually there are
instructions in the box.

If you still have trouble, there may be air in the fuel rails. I can't
remember which models and years were affected but some would get that way if
they ran out of gas. VERY CAREFULLY, release some pressure from each side,
just like letting air from a tire. This is best done with the engine off,
right after moving the key to on and then back to off. Fuel will come out
so don't be smoking or making sparks. Try to catch it in a can so it won't
go everywhere. Do this a couple of times for each side. You may need to
move the key back to on, then off to make enough pressure to complete the
task. Clean up spilled fuel, then start the engine and see if it is better.
Let us know.

PoD

<bravecougar@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> yesterday i ran out of gas , my gas gauage doesnt work , anyway i put
> gas in the car and tryed to start it and it started right uo put sounded
> like an old airplane sputtering and making air noises , it wouldnt stay
> running for any length of time , and then wouldnt start at all except
> for the starter motor turning if you can understand my description i
> hope someone can please help if you need more infoi will do m best thank
> you
> Susan
>



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Old 07-06-2005, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

By the way, if any of what I just listed seems difficult or scary, call a
mechanic. I am assuming you have some mechanical skills or you wouldn't
have asked here - but you sure don't want to go from a chugging Cougar to a
burning one!

PoD

"Paul of Dayton" <F_and_P@NOSPAMameritech.net> wrote in message
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> You may have a damaged fuel pump, a clogged filter, or a bad or clogged
> injector. There also might just be air in the fuel rails.
>
> First, do you hear the fuel pump run when you turn the key to on, before
> going to the start position? Probably. Next, find a fuel pressure gauge
> that is designed to connect to the fuel rail fitting that looks like a
> tire valve. There should be one on each side of the engine. If I remember
> right, the fuel rails are bright metal. If you can get the car to run,
> report the pressure readings here. Expect somewhere over 30 lbs. Don't
> use a tire gauge.
>
> If you have never changed the fuel filter, get one when you get the gauge.
> They are cheap and aren't hard to replace, they sit right in front of the
> rear drivers side wheel. Replace the filter first. Usually there are
> instructions in the box.
>
> If you still have trouble, there may be air in the fuel rails. I can't
> remember which models and years were affected but some would get that way
> if they ran out of gas. VERY CAREFULLY, release some pressure from each
> side, just like letting air from a tire. This is best done with the
> engine off, right after moving the key to on and then back to off. Fuel
> will come out so don't be smoking or making sparks. Try to catch it in a
> can so it won't go everywhere. Do this a couple of times for each side.
> You may need to move the key back to on, then off to make enough pressure
> to complete the task. Clean up spilled fuel, then start the engine and
> see if it is better. Let us know.
>
> PoD
>
> <bravecougar@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:22030-42CB1002-7@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net...
>> yesterday i ran out of gas , my gas gauage doesnt work , anyway i put
>> gas in the car and tryed to start it and it started right uo put sounded
>> like an old airplane sputtering and making air noises , it wouldnt stay
>> running for any length of time , and then wouldnt start at all except
>> for the starter motor turning if you can understand my description i
>> hope someone can please help if you need more infoi will do m best thank
>> you
>> Susan
>>

>
>



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Old 07-06-2005, 18:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 11:44:59 -0400, bravecougar@webtv.net
wrote:

>lugnut, you were absolutely no help whatsoev
>DUH
>now could someone give me some real help?


You are quite welcome. I am sure there is a clairevoyant
here somewhere with a much better crystal ball than mine.
The fact remains the it failed after you ran out of gas. A
failed fuel pump is not uncommon under these conditions.
And who was it driving around without a fuel guage?

Good luck
Lugnut
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Old 07-06-2005, 23:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: 93 T-bird ran outta gas now wont start please help

Normally I would stay out of this kind of discussion, but lately, this has
been happening alot on this newsgroup.

Just so we all know, who was the one driving the car around knowing full
well the gauge wasn't working, let the car run out of gas and obviously
wasn't carrying any extra fuel with him?

DUH yourself. Don't expect much help from this group with an attitude like
that. There are alot of knowledgeable people on this newsgroup, treat them
with respect and they'll do the same for you.

BTW, if this isn't the first time the vehicle has run out of fuel while the
gauge wasn't working, there is a very good chance you HAVE burned out the
pump. Once the fuel in the tank gets below the pump, it no longer keeps it
cool because it is not submerged in it anymore. Until you get that gauge
working, make it a habit of keeping a 5 gallon jug of fuel in your trunk, in
case this happens again. But it sounds like you'll be dropping the tank to
replace the pump, so you may as well replace the sending unit while you're
down there.

Sharky


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