neil

Hello All

I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
(almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long upward
hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle properly, ran
rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car started and ran ok,
we were at our destination so we parked for the night. The next day the car
started and ran like normal so we returned home, the car again after about
1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up, first the check engine light
start coming on, then going out, as well as noticeable power loss when
trying to accelerate.
When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop sign.
We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10 minutes
or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or light.

Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic converter,
how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to go about
trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.

I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
history.

I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
before I have to take it in to the dealership.

Cheers
Neil

 

neil

please respond to me directly, thanks
neil



"neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
> Hello All
>
> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
> upward hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle
> properly, ran rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car
> started and ran ok, we were at our destination so we parked for the night.
> The next day the car started and ran like normal so we returned home, the
> car again after about 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up,
> first the check engine light start coming on, then going out, as well as
> noticeable power loss when trying to accelerate.
> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
> sign. We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10
> minutes or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or
> light.
>
> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
> converter, how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to
> go about trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>
> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
> history.
>
> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>
> Cheers
> Neil
>
>

Teknical

Why would you want people to respond in email? the idea of this newsgroup is
to have things posted publicly, so that others can also learn and/or use the
information.


"neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:S_5Zd.667572$Xk.11801@pd7tw3no...
>
> please respond to me directly, thanks
> neil
>
>
>
> "neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
>> Hello All
>>
>> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
>> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
>> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
>> upward hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle
>> properly, ran rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car
>> started and ran ok, we were at our destination so we parked for the
>> night. The next day the car started and ran like normal so we returned
>> home, the car again after about 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to
>> act up, first the check engine light start coming on, then going out, as
>> well as noticeable power loss when trying to accelerate.
>> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
>> sign. We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10
>> minutes or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or
>> light.
>>
>> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
>> converter, how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to
>> go about trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>>
>> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
>> history.
>>
>> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
>> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Neil
>>
>>
>
>

neil

yes I fully understand that, I don't always have acess to this newgroup and
a response is very important to me at this time. If they want to respond to
both, so much the better.


"Teknical" <teknical@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:QcWdneGhLZugb6nfRVn-pg@rogers.com...
> Why would you want people to respond in email? the idea of this newsgroup
> is to have things posted publicly, so that others can also learn and/or
> use the information.
>
>
> "neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:S_5Zd.667572$Xk.11801@pd7tw3no...
>>
>> please respond to me directly, thanks
>> neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
>>> Hello All
>>>
>>> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
>>> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
>>> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
>>> upward hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle
>>> properly, ran rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car
>>> started and ran ok, we were at our destination so we parked for the
>>> night. The next day the car started and ran like normal so we returned
>>> home, the car again after about 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to
>>> act up, first the check engine light start coming on, then going out, as
>>> well as noticeable power loss when trying to accelerate.
>>> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
>>> sign. We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10
>>> minutes or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or
>>> light.
>>>
>>> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
>>> converter, how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to
>>> go about trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>>>
>>> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
>>> history.
>>>
>>> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know
>>> something before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Jeff

"neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:vT8Zd.672866$6l.174181@pd7tw2no...
> yes I fully understand that, I don't always have acess to this newgroup
> and a response is very important to me at this time. If they want to
> respond to both, so much the better.

If it is that important to you, you will obtain access to the newsgroup. You
can access it at google groups. And your local library should have computers
connected to the internet.

Jeff

Cory Dunkle

"neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
> Hello All
>
> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
upward
> hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle properly,
ran
> rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car started and ran
ok,
> we were at our destination so we parked for the night. The next day the
car
> started and ran like normal so we returned home, the car again after about
> 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up, first the check engine
light
> start coming on, then going out, as well as noticeable power loss when
> trying to accelerate.
> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
sign.
> We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10 minutes
> or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or light.
>
> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
converter,
> how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to go about
> trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>
> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
> history.
>
> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>
> Cheers
> Neil

It could be overheating.

I had the same problem when I forgot to put coolant back in my old 289 after
putting a different pair of heads on it. The heads had large chambers so
compression was lower and I expected power to be lower. So I ran the car for
a week with virtually no coolant. The overheat light never triggered because
I accidentally broke the sender (it was a bad day). Anyhow, running on teh
highway it was gutless. Stopping for a toll booth it stalled and didn't
wanna start. Took me a minute to get it started again and then it ran
alright once I got moving again. Finally I remembered I forgot to fill the
coolant system so I pulled over and filled it. Problem solved. More power
and didn't run rough or stall. Of course I had gone a few hundred miles with
no coolant already, but no harm was done. Those 289s sure are tough little
engines!

So, make sure your coolant system is full and your thermostat is working.
Also, you may wanna check that your temp sensor is working and your overheat
light bulb is not burnt out or otherwise non-functional.

An engine can overheat for several reasons other than that, such as retarded
timing, malfunctioning fan, malfunctioning EGR valve, I suppose O2 sensors
could cause it as well.

Anyhow, it's just something that may be worth checking.

Cory

pickone@kato.com

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:06:59 -0500, "Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net>
wrote:

>"neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
>> Hello All
>>
>> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
>> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
>> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
>upward
>> hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle properly,
>ran
>> rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car started and ran
>ok,
>> we were at our destination so we parked for the night. The next day the
>car
>> started and ran like normal so we returned home, the car again after about
>> 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up, first the check engine
>light
>> start coming on, then going out, as well as noticeable power loss when
>> trying to accelerate.
>> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
>sign.
>> We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10 minutes
>> or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or light.
>>
>> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
>converter,
>> how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to go about
>> trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>>
>> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
>> history.
>>
>> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
>> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Neil
>
>It could be overheating.
>
>I had the same problem when I forgot to put coolant back in my old 289 after
>putting a different pair of heads on it. The heads had large chambers so
>compression was lower and I expected power to be lower. So I ran the car for
>a week with virtually no coolant. The overheat light never triggered because
>I accidentally broke the sender (it was a bad day). Anyhow, running on teh
>highway it was gutless. Stopping for a toll booth it stalled and didn't
>wanna start. Took me a minute to get it started again and then it ran
>alright once I got moving again. Finally I remembered I forgot to fill the
>coolant system so I pulled over and filled it. Problem solved. More power
>and didn't run rough or stall. Of course I had gone a few hundred miles with
>no coolant already, but no harm was done. Those 289s sure are tough little
>engines!
>
>So, make sure your coolant system is full and your thermostat is working.
>Also, you may wanna check that your temp sensor is working and your overheat
>light bulb is not burnt out or otherwise non-functional.
>
>An engine can overheat for several reasons other than that, such as retarded
>timing, malfunctioning fan, malfunctioning EGR valve, I suppose O2 sensors
>could cause it as well.
>
>Anyhow, it's just something that may be worth checking.
>
> Cory
>
cory explain how an egr o2 sensors could cause itvto over heat

lmfao

hurc ast

Jeff

"Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kKCdnXPU-drtwarfRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
> "neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
>> Hello All
>>
>> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
>> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
>> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
> upward
>> hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle properly,
> ran
>> rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car started and ran
> ok,
>> we were at our destination so we parked for the night. The next day the
> car
>> started and ran like normal so we returned home, the car again after
>> about
>> 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up, first the check engine
> light
>> start coming on, then going out, as well as noticeable power loss when
>> trying to accelerate.
>> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
> sign.
>> We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10
>> minutes
>> or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or light.
>>
>> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
> converter,
>> how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to go about
>> trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>>
>> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
>> history.
>>
>> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
>> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Neil
>
> It could be overheating.
>
> I had the same problem when I forgot to put coolant back in my old 289
> after
> putting a different pair of heads on it. The heads had large chambers so
> compression was lower and I expected power to be lower. So I ran the car
> for
> a week with virtually no coolant. The overheat light never triggered
> because
> I accidentally broke the sender (it was a bad day). Anyhow, running on teh
> highway it was gutless. Stopping for a toll booth it stalled and didn't
> wanna start. Took me a minute to get it started again and then it ran
> alright once I got moving again. Finally I remembered I forgot to fill the
> coolant system so I pulled over and filled it. Problem solved. More power
> and didn't run rough or stall. Of course I had gone a few hundred miles
> with
> no coolant already, but no harm was done. Those 289s sure are tough little
> engines!
>
> So, make sure your coolant system is full and your thermostat is working.
> Also, you may wanna check that your temp sensor is working and your
> overheat
> light bulb is not burnt out or otherwise non-functional.
>
> An engine can overheat for several reasons other than that, such as
> retarded
> timing, malfunctioning fan, malfunctioning EGR valve, I suppose O2 sensors
> could cause it as well.

Bad catalyic convertors can cause the engine to overheat because most of the
heat is removed by the exahuast, and if the exhaust gas doesn't leave as
fast, the heat stays behind.

Jeff
> Anyhow, it's just something that may be worth checking.
>
> Cory
>
>

pick one

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4237a40f$0$45877$16897aa@news.airnews.net...
>
> "Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:kKCdnXPU-drtwarfRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
>> "neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
>>> Hello All
>>>
>>> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it did
>>> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
>>> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
>> upward
>>> hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle properly,
>> ran
>>> rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car started and ran
>> ok,
>>> we were at our destination so we parked for the night. The next day the
>> car
>>> started and ran like normal so we returned home, the car again after about
>>> 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up, first the check engine
>> light
>>> start coming on, then going out, as well as noticeable power loss when
>>> trying to accelerate.
>>> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
>> sign.
>>> We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10 minutes
>>> or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or light.
>>>
>>> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
>> converter,
>>> how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to go about
>>> trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>>>
>>> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
>>> history.
>>>
>>> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know something
>>> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Neil
>>
>> It could be overheating.
>>
>> I had the same problem when I forgot to put coolant back in my old 289 after
>> putting a different pair of heads on it. The heads had large chambers so
>> compression was lower and I expected power to be lower. So I ran the car for
>> a week with virtually no coolant. The overheat light never triggered because
>> I accidentally broke the sender (it was a bad day). Anyhow, running on teh
>> highway it was gutless. Stopping for a toll booth it stalled and didn't
>> wanna start. Took me a minute to get it started again and then it ran
>> alright once I got moving again. Finally I remembered I forgot to fill the
>> coolant system so I pulled over and filled it. Problem solved. More power
>> and didn't run rough or stall. Of course I had gone a few hundred miles with
>> no coolant already, but no harm was done. Those 289s sure are tough little
>> engines!
>>
>> So, make sure your coolant system is full and your thermostat is working.
>> Also, you may wanna check that your temp sensor is working and your overheat
>> light bulb is not burnt out or otherwise non-functional.
>>
>> An engine can overheat for several reasons other than that, such as retarded
>> timing, malfunctioning fan, malfunctioning EGR valve, I suppose O2 sensors
>> could cause it as well.
>
> Bad catalyic convertors can cause the engine to overheat because most of the
> heat is removed by the exahuast, and if the exhaust gas doesn't leave as
> fast, the heat stays behind.
>

If the exhaust does not leave the engine can not take in fresh air. Because of
the lack of oxygen fuel does not burn. Because fuel does not burn no heat.

> Jeff
>> Anyhow, it's just something that may be worth checking.
>>
>> Cory
>>
>>
>
>

Bob

"pick one" <try again!> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4237a40f$0$45877$16897aa@news.airnews.net...
>>
>> "Cory Dunkle" <cdnews@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:kKCdnXPU-drtwarfRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
>>> "neil" <ndbowie@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:nZ5Zd.670018$8l.628120@pd7tw1no...
>>>> Hello All
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1994 Taurus wagon with a 3.8 V6, the car runs fine, well it
>>>> did
>>>> until now. We took a trip out of town, the trip took about 1.5 hours,
>>>> (almost all freeway, averaged 60 mph on cruise) and ended with a long
>>> upward
>>>> hill. When we stopped at a gas station the car would not idle properly,
>>> ran
>>>> rough, and then stalled. After about 15 minutes the car started and
>>>> ran
>>> ok,
>>>> we were at our destination so we parked for the night. The next day the
>>> car
>>>> started and ran like normal so we returned home, the car again after
>>>> about
>>>> 1.5 hours of freeway driving started to act up, first the check engine
>>> light
>>>> start coming on, then going out, as well as noticeable power loss when
>>>> trying to accelerate.
>>>> When we pulled off the freeway and the car stalled at the first stop
>>> sign.
>>>> We were able to inch the car home, each time stopping for about 10
>>>> minutes
>>>> or until the car would start and run to the next stop sign or light.
>>>>
>>>> Now I am confused, a friend told me that it may be the catalytic
>>> converter,
>>>> how and why? these parts are very expensive, I do not want to go about
>>>> trying to fix this problem with a trial and error approach.
>>>>
>>>> I have only owned the car for the last 6 months and have no maintenance
>>>> history.
>>>>
>>>> I thank anyone who responds to my post, as I would like to know
>>>> something
>>>> before I have to take it in to the dealership.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Neil
>>>
>>> It could be overheating.
>>>
>>> I had the same problem when I forgot to put coolant back in my old 289
>>> after
>>> putting a different pair of heads on it. The heads had large chambers so
>>> compression was lower and I expected power to be lower. So I ran the car
>>> for
>>> a week with virtually no coolant. The overheat light never triggered
>>> because
>>> I accidentally broke the sender (it was a bad day). Anyhow, running on
>>> teh
>>> highway it was gutless. Stopping for a toll booth it stalled and didn't
>>> wanna start. Took me a minute to get it started again and then it ran
>>> alright once I got moving again. Finally I remembered I forgot to fill
>>> the
>>> coolant system so I pulled over and filled it. Problem solved. More
>>> power
>>> and didn't run rough or stall. Of course I had gone a few hundred miles
>>> with
>>> no coolant already, but no harm was done. Those 289s sure are tough
>>> little
>>> engines!
>>>
>>> So, make sure your coolant system is full and your thermostat is
>>> working.
>>> Also, you may wanna check that your temp sensor is working and your
>>> overheat
>>> light bulb is not burnt out or otherwise non-functional.
>>>
>>> An engine can overheat for several reasons other than that, such as
>>> retarded
>>> timing, malfunctioning fan, malfunctioning EGR valve, I suppose O2
>>> sensors
>>> could cause it as well.
>>
>> Bad catalyic convertors can cause the engine to overheat because most of
>> the heat is removed by the exahuast, and if the exhaust gas doesn't
>> leave as fast, the heat stays behind.
>>
>
> If the exhaust does not leave the engine can not take in fresh air.
> Because of the lack of oxygen fuel does not burn. Because fuel does not
> burn no heat.
>
>> Jeff
>>> Anyhow, it's just something that may be worth checking.
>>>
>>> Cory
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>