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Old 12-28-2005, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
hoopking33
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'97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

Hi All -- I have a 1997 Ford Taurus sedan (USA) with 55,000 miles, and
my headlights won't turn off. The only way to kill the lights is by
disconnecting the battery. I brought it to my mechanic and he played
with the fuses and wiring for quite some time, but couldn't solve the
problem. Has anyone else in the forum had this issue, and how is it
fixed? The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.

Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to avoid bringing it to a Ford
dealership if at all possible.

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Old 12-28-2005, 11:01   #2 (permalink)
Jeremiah Greer
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

Does it have the auto on/off headlamps or do you have to turn them on
and off manually? If it is the auto type I have heard of the sensor
that tells how dark it is outside going bad. If not maybe it could be
the headlamp switch needs replacing.

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Old 12-28-2005, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF


"hoopking33" <hoopking33@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1135781779.464756.22890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All -- I have a 1997 Ford Taurus sedan (USA) with 55,000 miles, and
> my headlights won't turn off. The only way to kill the lights is by
> disconnecting the battery. I brought it to my mechanic and he played
> with the fuses and wiring for quite some time, but couldn't solve the
> problem. Has anyone else in the forum had this issue, and how is it
> fixed? The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
> module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.
>



What kind of mechanic did you take it to? Why does he not have proper
service information available to him?




> Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to avoid bringing it to a Ford
> dealership if at all possible.
>



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Old 12-28-2005, 20:01   #4 (permalink)
Ernest Scribbler
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

"hoopking33" wrote
> The only way to kill the lights is by
> disconnecting the battery.
> The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
> module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.


Did you have DRLs before this problem showed up? If you have a DRL module,
it's on the front bumper brace below and behind the driver's side headlight.


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Old 12-28-2005, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
Jim Warman
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

If the car is, indeed, a US car, it shouldn't have DRLs.... If you can bring
yourself to hire a real mechanic (one who fixes vehicles rather than "plays"
with them), he would know to check for a DRL module near the left headlamp.
He would also check his manuals (there is no way to effectively work on an
electrical system without wiring diagrams) to see that there might also be a
concern with the multifunction switch (flash to pass feature) or with the
main light switch.

HTH.


"hoopking33" <hoopking33@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1135781779.464756.22890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All -- I have a 1997 Ford Taurus sedan (USA) with 55,000 miles, and
> my headlights won't turn off. The only way to kill the lights is by
> disconnecting the battery. I brought it to my mechanic and he played
> with the fuses and wiring for quite some time, but couldn't solve the
> problem. Has anyone else in the forum had this issue, and how is it
> fixed? The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
> module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.
>
> Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to avoid bringing it to a Ford
> dealership if at all possible.
>



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Old 12-28-2005, 22:01   #6 (permalink)
C1kid
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

hoopking33,

Have you fond the problem with your headlights? I am experincing the
same problem with my 97, also the Multi fuction switch is backwards...
ie forward low netural Highs, and back flash.
I had issues with my daytime running lights a few years back and pulled
the fuse But now Im in the same boat.

I tried pulling the 30AMP i the engine compartment fuse box but
nothing.
Don't feel lost though I'm a aircraft mechanic apprentace and its got
me in a think.

Let me know what comes of it and I'll do the same. And if anyone has
options let me know.

C1Kid

hoopking33 wrote:
> Hi All -- I have a 1997 Ford Taurus sedan (USA) with 55,000 miles, and
> my headlights won't turn off. The only way to kill the lights is by
> disconnecting the battery. I brought it to my mechanic and he played
> with the fuses and wiring for quite some time, but couldn't solve the
> problem. Has anyone else in the forum had this issue, and how is it
> fixed? The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
> module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.
>
> Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to avoid bringing it to a Ford
> dealership if at all possible.


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Old 12-29-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
Ernest Scribbler
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

"Jim Warman" wrote
> If the car is, indeed, a US car, it shouldn't have DRLs....


Unless it was a fleet vehicle, in which case DRLs are fairly common ...
(The OP didn't mention whether or not he had DRLs before this problem
appeared.)

> If you can bring yourself to hire a real mechanic


Since only one or two percent of US Taurii have DRLs, I'd hazard a guess
that there are more than a few "real mechanics" who've never seen one.

I'd also guess that hoopking posted here hoping for some useful information
and not just to be ragged on for trying to economize on service for a second
hand Ford.

"Stuck on" is among the failure modes for the DRL module. The fuse for the
DRL is a 15A (blue) blade type in position 15 in the engine compartment fuse
box. The cheap fix may be to simply remove that fuse. To get to the DRL
module itself, you have to remove the splash panel under the front bumper.
(about a zillion small screws) The module will be located under the battery
area. It's a small box with an 8-pin connector on the bottom. If it's been
on, it'll be hot to the touch. I believe a replacement is fairly expensive.
($100+) If you want to disconnect the module and do away with your DRLs,
you'll need a jumper from pin 1 to pin 8 to make the high beam indicator
work. You might be able to find an original jumper plug at a salvage yard.


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Old 12-29-2005, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
Larry P
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF **** Ive had this happen to me

Hi All

The DRL module or Daytime running lights module is placed just in front of
the Drivers side wheel well. I had this burn out on me and I had to replace
it for $70. Not the worst case. But if you cant, theres a mini fuse under
the hood fuse box that you can pull and the daytime headlights on function
will be disabled. I dont remmeber which fuse, but pull one at a time, with
Ignition off and battery conected, til the headlights distinguish.
My car was a 98 Taurus

Good Luck

Larry in NY





"hoopking33" <hoopking33@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1135781779.464756.22890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All -- I have a 1997 Ford Taurus sedan (USA) with 55,000 miles, and
> my headlights won't turn off. The only way to kill the lights is by
> disconnecting the battery. I brought it to my mechanic and he played
> with the fuses and wiring for quite some time, but couldn't solve the
> problem. Has anyone else in the forum had this issue, and how is it
> fixed? The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
> module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.
>
> Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to avoid bringing it to a Ford
> dealership if at all possible.
>



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Old 12-29-2005, 18:01   #9 (permalink)
Larry P
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF **** Ive had this happen to me

errrrrr, extinguish

"Larry P" <lpagano@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All
>
> The DRL module or Daytime running lights module is placed just in front of
> the Drivers side wheel well. I had this burn out on me and I had to
> replace it for $70. Not the worst case. But if you cant, theres a mini
> fuse under the hood fuse box that you can pull and the daytime headlights
> on function will be disabled. I dont remmeber which fuse, but pull one at
> a time, with Ignition off and battery conected, til the headlights
> distinguish.
> My car was a 98 Taurus
>
> Good Luck
>
> Larry in NY
>
>
>
>
>
> "hoopking33" <hoopking33@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1135781779.464756.22890@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi All -- I have a 1997 Ford Taurus sedan (USA) with 55,000 miles, and
>> my headlights won't turn off. The only way to kill the lights is by
>> disconnecting the battery. I brought it to my mechanic and he played
>> with the fuses and wiring for quite some time, but couldn't solve the
>> problem. Has anyone else in the forum had this issue, and how is it
>> fixed? The mechanic said something about a daytime running lamp
>> module, but the problem is he doesn't know where it's located.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to avoid bringing it to a Ford
>> dealership if at all possible.
>>

>
>



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Old 12-29-2005, 19:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: '97 Taurus: HEADLIGHTS WON'T SHUT OFF

I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time belabouring this point......
Without decent documentation, a tech may just as well be a plumber.... all
of the variables... all of the permutations... all of the changes from one
year to the next. If the tech doesn't have good documentation, a decent
skill set and the realization that "playing" with an electrical concern
without knowing the mechanics of the circuit(s) involved - it will be the
CUSTOMER getting screwed. I have neither sympathy nor respect for anyone
that calls himself a tech that is willing to plunge his customer wallet
first into a situation where the "tech" hasn't availed himself of adequate
information

In the US, any thief, charlatan or dumb jerk-off with a hammer and a pair of
pliers can hang out a shingle proclaiming he is a "mechanic"... the tone of
your post is condoning this sorry state of affairs. How many millions of
dollars are wasted by consumers, every year, on worthless attempts at auto
repairs by the aforementioned thieves, charlatans and jerk-offs? Mayhaps I
am ragging on the original poster... after all, it's his money and if he
wants to waste it on someone who will "play" with the wiring (charging door
rate by the hour, I imagine)... more power to him.... To me, it sounds like
he needs impetus to prevent him from becming a victim rather than a
satisfied customer.....

Technician competancy is a subject nobody really wants to get me going
on..... You sound well versed in this system... if you are a tech, you too
should be incensed at the way this trade is looked upon and damned mad at
some of the people that are allowed to practice it.

FWIW.... DRLs have been mandatory on all vehicles registered in Canada
beginning with MY 1992. They are proven to reduce daytime accidents and, as
such, I consider these devices to be safety equipment.


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