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Does anyone know anything about installing the 110v AC outlet in the console
(parts needed, job difficulty)? I have a 2005 4WD without the option, and
I'd love to add it.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
> Does anyone know anything about installing the 110v AC outlet in the
> console (parts needed, job difficulty)? I have a 2005 4WD without the
> option, and I'd love to add it.
Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@spamalum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about installing the 110v AC outlet in the console
> (parts needed, job difficulty)? I have a 2005 4WD without the option, and
> I'd love to add it.
> --
> Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
I am disappointed that the ignition has to be on, not just accessory, for
it to have power. You could easily use the blank for a chassis mount AC
outlet, wired to a $30 inverter that you can buy almost anywhere.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5
>
> I am disappointed that the ignition has to be on, not just accessory,
> for it to have power. You could easily use the blank for a chassis
> mount AC outlet, wired to a $30 inverter that you can buy almost
> anywhere.
>
do the math.. suppose you're running a 75 watt appliance. With losses,
that's close to 10 amps from the battery.
Imagine the dealers dealing with the complaints of run-down batteries
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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!
Backyard Mechanic wrote:
> dold@XReXXACXou.usenet.us.com wrote:
>
>
>>I am disappointed that the ignition has to be on, not just accessory,
>>for it to have power. You could easily use the blank for a chassis
>>mount AC outlet, wired to a $30 inverter that you can buy almost
>>anywhere.
>>
>
>
> do the math.. suppose you're running a 75 watt appliance. With losses,
> that's close to 10 amps from the battery.
>
> Imagine the dealers dealing with the complaints of run-down batteries
>
On the Hybrid, does the inverter run off the traction battery, or
otherwise? Is there a 12v battery in addition to the traction battery?
Does the Hybrid even have a "start" position on the key switch - or is
it just "on"? I've never really looked at one...
Backyard Mechanic <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote:
> do the math.. suppose you're running a 75 watt appliance. With losses,
> that's close to 10 amps from the battery.
> Imagine the dealers dealing with the complaints of run-down batteries
How is that math any different from anyone else using a plug in inverter?
I'm not sure anyone would ever notice a run down battery.
My plug in inverter sounds an alarm when the battery drops "too low",
intending to leave a strong enough battery to start the car, and then it
stops drawing 12v power.
In the Escape Hybrid, where the high voltage battery is used to turn the
motor, there would be less demand for 12v.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5
> Backyard Mechanic wrote:
>> dold@XReXXACXou.usenet.us.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am disappointed that the ignition has to be on, not just accessory,
>>>for it to have power. You could easily use the blank for a chassis
>>>mount AC outlet, wired to a $30 inverter that you can buy almost
>>>anywhere.
>>>
>>
>>
>> do the math.. suppose you're running a 75 watt appliance. With
losses,
>> that's close to 10 amps from the battery.
>>
>> Imagine the dealers dealing with the complaints of run-down batteries
>>
>
> On the Hybrid, does the inverter run off the traction battery, or
> otherwise? Is there a 12v battery in addition to the traction battery?
> Does the Hybrid even have a "start" position on the key switch - or
is
> it just "on"? I've never really looked at one...
>
> Rob
arghhhh.. sorry. Dumbass me.. oughta learn to read.
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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!
Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote in part:
>Does anyone know anything about installing the 110v AC outlet in the console
>(parts needed, job difficulty)? I have a 2005 4WD without the option, and
>I'd love to add it.
Uh, let me rephrase my question a bit: I assume the AC outlet draws power
from the 330v battery. I'd like to install an outlet such as the one that is
offered with the car as an option.
If the 12v battery is run down, the 12v battery can be charged from the 330v
battery by throwing a switch. After waiting a while, the car can then be
started. I don't want to do that.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@spamalum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Uh, let me rephrase my question a bit: I assume the AC outlet draws power
> from the 330v battery.
That would be an interesting assumption. I wouldn't expect it to be driven
from the 330v battery. The high voltage lines are bright orange, and don't
enter the passenger compartment. I'll try to have a look under the dash to
see if I can tell where the power comes from.
> If the 12v battery is run down, the 12v battery can be charged from the 330v
> battery by throwing a switch. After waiting a while, the car can then be
> started. I don't want to do that.
You have such a switch?
Since starting is driven by the 330v battery, why would you have to
wait a while? I think the 12v battery in the car could be much more
depleted and still start the car, as compared to a "normal" car.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5
>Jim Chinnis <jchinnis@spamalum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> Uh, let me rephrase my question a bit: I assume the AC outlet draws power
>> from the 330v battery.
>
>That would be an interesting assumption. I wouldn't expect it to be driven
>from the 330v battery. The high voltage lines are bright orange, and don't
>enter the passenger compartment. I'll try to have a look under the dash to
>see if I can tell where the power comes from.
There is a bi-directional converter between the 330v system and the 12v
system. So I guess drawing power while the engine is off will ultimately
drain both batteries. ???
>> If the 12v battery is run down, the 12v battery can be charged from the 330v
>> battery by throwing a switch. After waiting a while, the car can then be
>> started. I don't want to do that.
>
>You have such a switch?
>Since starting is driven by the 330v battery, why would you have to
>wait a while? I think the 12v battery in the car could be much more
>depleted and still start the car, as compared to a "normal" car.
Sorry, I had that backwards. The Ford literature is confusing. It says that
if the engine cranks but will not start, the 330v battery may need a "jump"
charge. That is done by pressing a button behind an access panel in the
driver's side footwell. That starts a charging of the 330v battery from the
12v battery which takes 8 minutes.
What's confusing in the literature is that it says that the engine will not
crank if the 12v battery is dead. Elsewhere it says that all engine starting
is done from the 330v battery driving the electric motor which turns the
engine to start it. (Ford's hybrid is apparently unique in that regard from
what I have seen.)
Thanks for the comments.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
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