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Old 09-09-2005, 21:01   #1 (permalink)
Paul O.
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Acetone in your gas = better mileage?

Found this link on another NG. Have no idea if it is BS or not.
http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm
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Old 09-09-2005, 22:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Acetone in your gas = better mileage?

Oh, no.... not again..... Start with reading the MSDS on acetone....


"Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Found this link on another NG. Have no idea if it is BS or not.
> http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm
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> Paul O.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Acetone in your gas = better mileage?


"Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Found this link on another NG. Have no idea if it is BS or not.
> http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm


The question is not whether it is BS or not - The question is whether the
person that runs this web site is insane or not. It is hard to imagine so
much BS being accumulated in one place by a sane person.

Ed


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Old 09-12-2005, 18:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Acetone in your gas = better mileage?

As near as I can figure, the very low flashpoint of acetone will lower the
octane of fuel - lower octane fuel often provides better mileage. Of
course, it might knock and ping like crazy too.

PoD


"Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Found this link on another NG. Have no idea if it is BS or not.
> http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm
> --
> Paul O.
> oplholik@gmail.com
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Old 09-12-2005, 18:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Acetone in your gas = better mileage?

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in news:43257c56_1
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> http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm


Heh... I think he's senile now.. just FORMERLY insane.

Problem is:

I agree with him on Ethanol. My own experience is my mileage goes DOWN
almost ten percent when I run a fuel labeled ten % ethanol.

And the Fogerator is an exercise in doublespeak.

And the crap about engines failing at under 100,000?!!!

- Heh! That's the tipoff he must be looney tunes.

L8tr... gonna go out and get me a gallon of acetone.
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Old 09-12-2005, 21:01   #6 (permalink)
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:21:48 GMT, "Paul of Dayon"
<plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>As near as I can figure, the very low flashpoint of acetone will lower the
>octane of fuel - lower octane fuel often provides better mileage. Of
>course, it might knock and ping like crazy too.
>
>PoD
>
>
>"Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:n8sUe.3902$LZ6.2049@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>> Found this link on another NG. Have no idea if it is BS or not.
>> http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm
>> --
>> Paul O.
>> oplholik@gmail.com
>>

>


A lower flash point does not necessarily translate into more
combustible nor any higher or lower octane equivalant.
Gasoline has a much lower flash point than Diesel fuel. Yet,
the Diesel's autogenous ignition temperature is much lower
than gasoline. LPG and natural gas have autogenous ignition
temperature higher than gasoline yet along with higher
octane equivalants but, the flash points are way down there.
Flash points, autogenous ignition temps and octane ratings
are different qualities possessed by a fuel.
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Old 09-13-2005, 00:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Acetone in your gas = better mileage?

Thanks Lugnut. I seem to be armed with just enough stuff to be dangerous
(at least to myself).

I still think I will stick to running the stuff that comes out of the pump
at the local station without augmentation - except for an occasional can of
Techron...

PoD


"lugnut" <lugnut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:21:48 GMT, "Paul of Dayon"
> <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>As near as I can figure, the very low flashpoint of acetone will lower the
>>octane of fuel - lower octane fuel often provides better mileage. Of
>>course, it might knock and ping like crazy too.
>>
>>PoD
>>
>>
>>"Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:n8sUe.3902$LZ6.2049@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Found this link on another NG. Have no idea if it is BS or not.
>>> http://www.lubedev.com/smartgas/faq.htm
>>> --
>>> Paul O.
>>> oplholik@gmail.com
>>>

>>

>
> A lower flash point does not necessarily translate into more
> combustible nor any higher or lower octane equivalant.
> Gasoline has a much lower flash point than Diesel fuel. Yet,
> the Diesel's autogenous ignition temperature is much lower
> than gasoline. LPG and natural gas have autogenous ignition
> temperature higher than gasoline yet along with higher
> octane equivalants but, the flash points are way down there.
> Flash points, autogenous ignition temps and octane ratings
> are different qualities possessed by a fuel.



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Old 09-20-2005, 20:01   #8 (permalink)
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> I still think I will stick to running the stuff that comes out of the pump
> at the local station without augmentation - except for an occasional can

of
> Techron...
>
> PoD


Hmm, I was thinking about adding some acetone to the fuel in my '82 Dodge
pickup, which is not registered and sits most of the year except to plow my
driveway and move rocks and material around my property. The carb is pretty
gummed up and the acetone might help to gradually clean it, although I would
be concerned about the acetone dissolving or degrading seals in the carb.



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Old 09-20-2005, 22:01   #9 (permalink)
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>From what I've read up on mixing in acetone, the reason it supposedly
works is that it lowers the surface tension of the gasoline, allowing
for more efficient atomization of the gasoline when mixed with air.
Around the house it's commonly referred to as nail polish remover (but
make sure the contents indicate 100% pure acetone).

Here is a link to what seems to be an objective source(?) on the topic.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo..._Fuel_Additive

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Old 09-21-2005, 21:01   #10 (permalink)
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<sleepdog@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> >From what I've read up on mixing in acetone, the reason it supposedly

> works is that it lowers the surface tension of the gasoline, allowing
> for more efficient atomization of the gasoline when mixed with air.
> Around the house it's commonly referred to as nail polish remover (but
> make sure the contents indicate 100% pure acetone).
>
> Here is a link to what seems to be an objective source(?) on the topic.
>
> http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo..._Fuel_Additive
>



Very interesting read.

I've started some experiments myself.

Test subjects:

1982 Dodge W150 pickup that barely runs, is unregistered, used for plowing
my driveway and moving dirt, logs, whatever around my property

1998 Ford Explorer

Generac EXL 7000 gasolene powered generator


I added 3 oz to a tank of gas in the Ford and Dodge.

Because I also got an oil change, air filter and transmission fluid change
on the Ford, my results cannot be attributed with certainty, but I will
state that the vehicle seems to have more thottle response than before.

The Dodge has a clogged up carb, hasn't run on all 8 cylinders in about a
decade and barely runs well enough to plow snow from my private road each
winter. It also had a bad after-run problem, where the engine would keep
turning over in a 'klunk-klunk-klunk' fashion.
Adding acetone to the fuel and operating the vehicle for ten minutes, I
noted that for the first time in about 10 years, it will idle smoothly, as
if running on all cylinders. When I shut it off, the engine shut off
cleanly, without after run.

I added about 1-3/4 oz to the generator, which has a 7 gallon tank. It's
impossible to tell if there is any operational improvement without a heavy
load. I ran it for 30 minutes while I used to power for running my electric
chain saw to cut up some logs. Normally, when I shut down this generator, it
will backfire or post-ignite in the muffler, after the engine comes to a
stop. With the acetone, the generator shut down without the backfire in the
muffler this time.

I will be driving to Florida in a few days and this will be a great
opportunity to test the mileage results on a long trip with a lot of sample
data.

As an aside, I am interested in any ideas for improving the aerodynamics of
the '98 Explorer, so as to have less wind resistance at highway speeds.
Reducing wind drag can make the most difference, as a significant portion of
engine output is used counteracting drag. I have the stock Explorer, and am
wondering if there are any simple modifications that can be made to reduce
turbulence and drag. Has anyone got any wind tunnel test data for the
Explorer?


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