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Old 09-05-2005, 13:01   #1 (permalink)
Bob Urz
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Aluminum rim sealing.


I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
I just want to seal the bead area. Some guy at the parts store suggested
Joy dish soap directly rubbed on but i have my doubts about that.
I can break the bead to get to it.

Bob

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Old 09-05-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.

Bob Urz <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in
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>
> I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
> a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
> up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
> the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
> I just want to seal the bead area. Some guy at the parts store
> suggested Joy dish soap directly rubbed on but i have my doubts about
> that. I can break the bead to get to it.
>
> Bob
>
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take them off dismount them and clean the rims sealing area with a good
wire brushing, power brush prefered. then use a good rim and tire
lube/sealant on the bead and they will be good for several years again.
be sure to do the valve stem hole also. aluminum corodes and you just
have to clean it up. KB

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Old 09-06-2005, 06:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.

In article <1125948344_6053@spool6-east.superfeed.net>,
sound@inetnebr.com says...
> I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
> a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
> up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
> the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
> I just want to seal the bead area.


It may be more than the bead that is leaking. Cast aluminum/
magnesium alloys are somewhat porous and prone to leakage.
It used to be common practice to seal the inside of rims with
clear lacquer. I think makers are using a plastic polymer
product now, but I see no reason the old methods wouldn't work
for DIY. Clean and re-seal, should be good for another 5 years.
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Old 09-06-2005, 08:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.


Bob Urz wrote:
> I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
> a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
> up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
> the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
> I just want to seal the bead area. Some guy at the parts store suggested
> Joy dish soap directly rubbed on but i have my doubts about that.
> I can break the bead to get to it.
>
> Bob
>


Do you know where the leaks are?

Before fixing the rims, be sure to check the stems for a good seal to
the rim, lack of cracking around the base and a correctly functioning
valve.

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Old 09-06-2005, 08:01   #5 (permalink)
Bob Urz
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.



John S. wrote:

> Bob Urz wrote:
>
>>I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
>>a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
>>up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
>>the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
>>I just want to seal the bead area. Some guy at the parts store suggested
>>Joy dish soap directly rubbed on but i have my doubts about that.
>>I can break the bead to get to it.
>>
>>Bob
>>

>
>
> Do you know where the leaks are?
>
> Before fixing the rims, be sure to check the stems for a good seal to
> the rim, lack of cracking around the base and a correctly functioning
> valve.


The particular one i am working on now is off my taurus. It was holding
air fine until a nail got it. I put a patch on the inside and lightly
sanded off the bead rims before putting it back on. I used a manual
harbor freight tire machine to do it. It seems to be leaking less now,
but still a very slow leak.

Now, my 96 S10 aluminum rims seems to only leak when it cold outside.
I have not broke them down yet. Trying to get a plan first.
I really did not want to put the sealer down the valve stem route.

Bob

Bob

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Old 09-06-2005, 09:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.

Put a tube in it and all those problems will be gone.


"Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
> a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
> up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
> the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
> I just want to seal the bead area. Some guy at the parts store

suggested
> Joy dish soap directly rubbed on but i have my doubts about that.
> I can break the bead to get to it.
>
> Bob
>
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Old 09-06-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.


Try to track down where the leak is by putting the wheel with fully
inflated tire in a water tank. Soap can stop tiny leaks for a while,
but don't expect a permanent fix. A varnish like product is not a good
idea because it will harden and crack.

If the Harbor Freight tire machine is a cheaply designed model, then it
could have very well scored the inside rim. Check the inside very
carefully. Also, try rotating the tire to a new position on the rim.


Bob Urz wrote:
> John S. wrote:
>
> > Bob Urz wrote:
> >
> >>I have a few aluminum rims with tubeless tires that i seem to have
> >>a continuing slow leaking problem. Any tips on how to seal these
> >>up more permanent? Most of the auto parts store seem to just have
> >>the stuff to put in the whole tire to seal punctures. (green slime ?)
> >>I just want to seal the bead area. Some guy at the parts store suggested
> >>Joy dish soap directly rubbed on but i have my doubts about that.
> >>I can break the bead to get to it.
> >>
> >>Bob
> >>

> >
> >
> > Do you know where the leaks are?
> >
> > Before fixing the rims, be sure to check the stems for a good seal to
> > the rim, lack of cracking around the base and a correctly functioning
> > valve.

>
> The particular one i am working on now is off my taurus. It was holding
> air fine until a nail got it. I put a patch on the inside and lightly
> sanded off the bead rims before putting it back on. I used a manual
> harbor freight tire machine to do it. It seems to be leaking less now,
> but still a very slow leak.



>
> Now, my 96 S10 aluminum rims seems to only leak when it cold outside.
> I have not broke them down yet. Trying to get a plan first.
> I really did not want to put the sealer down the valve stem route.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob
>
> >

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Old 09-06-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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.. <.@dot.com> wrote in article <g3iTe.1935$Zp.1683@lakeread04>...
> Put a tube in it and all those problems will be gone.
>
>



Put a tube in it and your problems will be just beginning......

Most tubeless tires have ribs molded into the inside that will quickly
chafe holes in tubes........especially given the flex of a radial tire's
sidewalls......

Fix the actual problem correctly instead of putting a Band-Aid on it.....



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Old 09-06-2005, 10:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.

"*" <nospam@this.addy.com> wrote in message
news:01c5b2f7$dfc7b2c0$45a2c3d8@race...
>
>
> . <.@dot.com> wrote in article <g3iTe.1935$Zp.1683@lakeread04>...
> > Put a tube in it and all those problems will be gone.
> >
> >

>
>
> Put a tube in it and your problems will be just beginning......
>
> Most tubeless tires have ribs molded into the inside that will quickly
> chafe holes in tubes........especially given the flex of a radial

tire's
> sidewalls......
>
> Fix the actual problem correctly instead of putting a Band-Aid on

it.....

What a steaming pile of shit. I've used this method
COUNTLESS times, mainly due to bad bead sealing
or side wall punctures, over the decades (including
nearly new tires) with the tires successfully used
until cord was showing.


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Old 09-06-2005, 13:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Aluminum rim sealing.

I use Permatex silicone sealant, not as toxic and more enviro friendly than
others, and mos timportant it does what advertised for:
SEALS
Slime is asuch garbage lord!!!! I CURSED THE DAY I BOUGHT THIS THING
CLAIMING TO FIX TIRES, IN FACT I DID FIX TIRE... WITH PERMATEX 9SIMILAR TO
3M SILICONE SEALANT, BLACK) AND ALSO THEIR MORE EXPENSIVE OEM/PROFESSIONAL
VERSION GASKET MAKER BLACK, UNLIKE SLIME.
SLIME WAS WHITE, LOOKED NASTY!! AFTER DRYING IT... DRIED OUT OR SOMETHING,
IT DISAPPEARED I DONT KNOW WHY, THE HOLE WAS COVERED WITH THINN LAYER NO
MATTER HO WMUCH DAMN PASTE I APPLIED IT DRIED AN DAGAIN LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE

SO FO RME PERMATEX AND 3M, ONE OR BOTH


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