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Old 02-11-2006, 22:01   #1 (permalink)
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amsoil - good or bad?

any opinions on Amsoil?
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Old 02-12-2006, 06:02   #2 (permalink)
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snake oil. it don't meet any of the specifications or certifications for any
of my vehicles.
"I Love Edsels" <henry@ford.com> wrote in message
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> any opinions on Amsoil?



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Old 02-12-2006, 06:02   #3 (permalink)
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"I Love Edsels" <henry@ford.com> wrote in message
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> any opinions on Amsoil?


I don't use it. I have read some tests that show it to be better than
many would like to believe.

Their multilevel marketing approach does not inspire credibility,
for me at least.

I tried to change the oil in a girlfriend's car once in which Amsoil
was used for long change intervals. Crap looked like chocolate
pudding.

Now, had reasonable change intervals been used, it might have
come out much better.


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Old 02-12-2006, 07:01   #4 (permalink)
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<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote:

>
> I don't use it. I have read some tests that show it to be better than
> many would like to believe.
>
> Their multilevel marketing approach does not inspire credibility,
> for me at least.
>
> I tried to change the oil in a girlfriend's car once in which Amsoil
> was used for long change intervals. Crap looked like chocolate
> pudding.
>
> Now, had reasonable change intervals been used, it might have
> come out much better.



If someone drives only five to ten minutes average per cold startup, the
result will eventually, indeed, be chocolate pudding..the 'chocolate'
part being due to condensated water not 'boiled out'and probable engine
damage as a result.. and ANY synthetic a waste of money .

For long change intervals, Mobil 1 works every bit as well as needed...
and you can buy it anywhere, cheaper. Change filters at 5000.

Oil Change rule of thumb:

Grocery getter (frequent, short trip driver) - every three months, good
Dino oil (Valvoline). The FAMOUS brands start to break down at or before
3000, ALL brands will hold water. And mileage driven means nothing.

Long commuter (at least 30 minutes running cycle per startup) use a REAL
synthetic, change at 15,000- filter at 5,000.

Any engine malfunction resulting in rich mixture causing gas
contamination calls for immediate oil change, no matter what.

Any glycol contamination: ditto.

Amsoil is for those who like 'cultish' things.

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Old 02-12-2006, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
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I Love Edsels <henry@ford.com> wrote:
>any opinions on Amsoil?


I tried only their standard motor oil, and it was okay. Didn't do as well
on the four-ball test as Castrol Syntec, but it came close. Seemed to have
reasonable solvent action. Don't know about any of their other products.
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Old 02-12-2006, 11:01   #6 (permalink)
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I Love Edsels wrote:
> any opinions on Amsoil?


In my experience there is a lot of noisy hype surrounding their
products, but the chances are that their oil will provide about as much
engine longevity as oil from one of the major brands. The key to
engine longevity is establishing a regular schedule of frequent oil and
filter changes that exceeds the manufacturers schedule and sticking to
it.

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Old 02-12-2006, 11:01   #7 (permalink)
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"I Love Edsels" <henry@ford.com> wrote in message
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> any opinions on Amsoil?


This also bring up another good question..... how is their gear oil, say the
90 weight. It was recommended (and used by) the mechanic at the Harley shop
for aftermarket transmission fluid changes. Any opinions on this?

Fwed


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Old 02-12-2006, 12:01   #8 (permalink)
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fweddybear <fweddybear@cox.net> wrote:
>"I Love Edsels" <henry@ford.com> wrote in message
>news:r7htu15e0jd7v80af3ck86uc2cn21kqnbd@4ax.com...
>> any opinions on Amsoil?

>
>This also bring up another good question..... how is their gear oil, say the
>90 weight. It was recommended (and used by) the mechanic at the Harley shop
>for aftermarket transmission fluid changes. Any opinions on this?


Dunno, but at some point I'd like to see a comparison between the Red Line,
Royal Purple, Amsoil, Mobil 1 and (conventional petroleum) Pennzoil types.
I've had folks recommend all of these at one point or another.

Gear oil is funny stuff and conventional oil tests don't always correlate
well with real-world gear wear.
--scott

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Old 02-12-2006, 13:01   #9 (permalink)
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"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message
> If someone drives only five to ten minutes average per cold startup, the
> result will eventually, indeed, be chocolate pudding..the 'chocolate'
> part being due to condensated water not 'boiled out'and probable engine
> damage as a result.. and ANY synthetic a waste of money .


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This was not her problem. She drove long miles at highway speed.
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> For long change intervals, Mobil 1 works every bit as well as needed...
> and you can buy it anywhere, cheaper. Change filters at 5000.


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I don't presently use synthetics, and if I did I would change oil
and filter at 3000 miles, just like I do now. Assurance that you can
get away with long change intervals is wasted on me. I will not likely
ever follow that path.

She ran hers to 15,000 miles between changes. No glycol contamination,
no condensation.....just Amsoil. And, as it was her car, and her
philosophy,
I didn't choose to interfere.


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Old 02-12-2006, 13:01   #10 (permalink)
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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> fweddybear <fweddybear@cox.net> wrote:
>>"I Love Edsels" <henry@ford.com> wrote in message
>>news:r7htu15e0jd7v80af3ck86uc2cn21kqnbd@4ax.com...
>>> any opinions on Amsoil?

>>
>>This also bring up another good question..... how is their gear oil, say
>>the
>>90 weight. It was recommended (and used by) the mechanic at the Harley
>>shop
>>for aftermarket transmission fluid changes. Any opinions on this?

>
> Dunno, but at some point I'd like to see a comparison between the Red
> Line,
> Royal Purple, Amsoil, Mobil 1 and (conventional petroleum) Pennzoil types.
> I've had folks recommend all of these at one point or another.
>
> Gear oil is funny stuff and conventional oil tests don't always correlate
> well with real-world gear wear.
> --scott


I would imagine temp has alot to do with how well it keeps things coated
with that thin layer...

Fwed


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