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Old 01-26-2006, 08:01   #1 (permalink)
Jim Higgins
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Employees wonder where next shoe will drop

Employees wonder where next shoe will drop
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...rer-usat_x.htm

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respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."

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Old 01-26-2006, 23:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Employees wonder where next shoe will drop

Jim Higgins wrote:
> Employees wonder where next shoe will drop
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...rer-usat_x.htm
>
> --
> "I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my friends
> respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."
>
> John Wayne
>
>

I just scanned the article cause I'm not really into the controversy about Ford and
your post is meant to be inflamitory. I DO like your tag line though.
I personally think everyone at FOMOCO should take a pay reduction (upper management)
or a benefit reduction (folks on the line), with appropriate cuts in the middle of
course. I had to do both steadily over the years as a Ford Technician and I had no
choice, it's about time the others gave up a bit too. The guys(and gals) on the
assembly lines aren't getting rich with their takehome pay by todays standards, but
they have Bennies that most folks in this country couldn't hope to have. This comes at
a tremendous cost. The folks in Management have salary and benefits that the line
workers could drool over, also at a tremendous cost. The Techs in the Dealerships wish
they got what the line workers get. When the company falters, everybody should give a
little.
I'm not anti-union (worked in a few Union shops)or anti-management(been there too,
didn't like it), but DAAAMMMMNNN folks.....
I left the Dealerships in disgust in 2001 because, between about 1995 and 2000, I
took a ~40% pay cut due to Ford cutting Warranty time on repairs (Unions are getting
rare in Dealership shops, but they couldn't stop it anyways).
Looks like the line workers are just the next step up the chain to get screwed. Ford
can't cut their pay or benefits due to the UAW negotiated contracts, so they just
close the whole plant. The Unions won't give an inch, as is their job, so....??? I
really do feel bad for those who will find themselves unemployed, I've been there, but
oh well, life sux sometimes. I don't have an answer, God Bless the person that does
cause lots of folks won't like it no matter what the answer is.
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Old 01-27-2006, 05:01   #3 (permalink)
stonej
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Re: Employees wonder where next shoe will drop

How do you get the people still remaining at Ford
to envision "The way forward" when they are going to
be paranoid that the shoe could drop at any moment
and they are out of a job?.

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Old 01-27-2006, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Employees wonder where next shoe will drop

Tom Adkins wrote:
> Jim Higgins wrote:
>
>> Employees wonder where next shoe will drop
>> http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...rer-usat_x.htm
>>
>> --
>> "I have tried to live my life so that my family would love me and my
>> friends respect me. The others can do whatever the hell they please."
>>
>> John Wayne
>>

> I just scanned the article cause I'm not really into the controversy
> about Ford and your post is meant to be inflamitory. I DO like your tag
> line though.
> I personally think everyone at FOMOCO should take a pay reduction
> (upper management) or a benefit reduction (folks on the line), with
> appropriate cuts in the middle of course. I had to do both steadily over
> the years as a Ford Technician and I had no choice, it's about time the
> others gave up a bit too. The guys(and gals) on the assembly lines
> aren't getting rich with their takehome pay by todays standards, but
> they have Bennies that most folks in this country couldn't hope to have.
> This comes at a tremendous cost. The folks in Management have salary and
> benefits that the line workers could drool over, also at a tremendous
> cost. The Techs in the Dealerships wish they got what the line workers
> get. When the company falters, everybody should give a little.
> I'm not anti-union (worked in a few Union shops)or anti-management(been
> there too, didn't like it), but DAAAMMMMNNN folks.....
> I left the Dealerships in disgust in 2001 because, between about 1995
> and 2000, I took a ~40% pay cut due to Ford cutting Warranty time on
> repairs (Unions are getting rare in Dealership shops, but they couldn't
> stop it anyways).
> Looks like the line workers are just the next step up the chain to get
> screwed. Ford can't cut their pay or benefits due to the UAW negotiated
> contracts, so they just close the whole plant. The Unions won't give an
> inch, as is their job, so....??? I really do feel bad for those who will
> find themselves unemployed, I've been there, but oh well, life sux
> sometimes. I don't have an answer, God Bless the person that does cause
> lots of folks won't like it no matter what the answer is.


Yep, sometimes unions negotiate their members out of a job. Sad but true.
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Old 01-27-2006, 19:01   #5 (permalink)
Eric G
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Re: Employees wonder where next shoe will drop

an old adage, 'Work or get fired.'

The biggest bene that I've heard of is the 'reserve' field, where they get
paid to not work, because of the UAW contract that kept them from being laid
off. Imagine what a burger would cost if the same kind of mentality went
into running a fast food chain....





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