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Old 04-09-2005, 20:01   #1 (permalink)
Jeff Berk
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Escape hybrid

Anyone have any experience or info other than reviews?

Thanks in advance,

Jeff


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Old 04-09-2005, 21:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Escape hybrid

Jeff Berk <berknotthis@brodskyberk.com> wrote:
> Anyone have any experience or info other than reviews?


http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com has 1058 posts in a Hybrid topic in the
Ford Escape forum.

The place where I had my trailer hitch installed said they had done about
20 Escape Hybrid hitches. Two on the day mine was done.
I figure roughly 4000 nationwide, divided amongst the blue states.
California probably got 2,000, with 1,000 in the SF bay area.
All figures are wild guesses.

I have about 6500 miles on mine. 26.8MPG overall, 33mpg at 60mph on the
highway, 36.2 in San Jose commute traffic for a week.
Seems like plenty of power. The engine seems noisy and too quick to jump
up to 4000 RPM, but if you ignore that, it's all good.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6C912BDA shows 11 threads in alt.autos.ford
about the Escape Hybrid. 10 with a post from me ;-) 11 as soon as I post
this one.

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Old 04-10-2005, 01:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Escape hybrid

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 03:09:59 +0000 (UTC),
dold@XReXXEscap.usenet.us.com wrote:

>Jeff Berk <berknotthis@brodskyberk.com> wrote:
>> Anyone have any experience or info other than reviews?

>
>http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com has 1058 posts in a Hybrid topic in the
>Ford Escape forum.
>
>The place where I had my trailer hitch installed said they had done about
>20 Escape Hybrid hitches. Two on the day mine was done.
>I figure roughly 4000 nationwide, divided amongst the blue states.
>California probably got 2,000, with 1,000 in the SF bay area.
>All figures are wild guesses.
>
>I have about 6500 miles on mine. 26.8MPG overall, 33mpg at 60mph on the
>highway, 36.2 in San Jose commute traffic for a week.
>Seems like plenty of power. The engine seems noisy and too quick to jump
>up to 4000 RPM, but if you ignore that, it's all good.
>


Doesn't it have a continuously variable ratio transmission?
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Old 04-10-2005, 15:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Escape hybrid

Ashton Crusher <Hello@nowhere.net> wrote:
> dold@XReXXEscap.usenet.us.com wrote:


>>Seems like plenty of power. The engine seems noisy and too quick to jump
>>up to 4000 RPM, but if you ignore that, it's all good.


> Doesn't it have a continuously variable ratio transmission?


Yes, but not like one in the Ford 500, or Freestyle, or Hondas.
Those also bring the engine speed up quickly and hold it there while the
road speed climbs, but it's different in the Escape Hybrid.

It has a planetary gear transmission. Road speed holds a constant ratio
between Engine RPM verses generator RPM. As a load is put on the system,
it moves gas RPM up to the optimum power (and I suppose efficiency) RPM for
a balance of gas + electric power to the wheels. This gives something
around 4000 RPM under moderate load uphill, making the Escape seem
underpowered. It's not. if you step on the gas, there's still more power
available, but 4000 RPM sounds like it's straining. It just takes a while
to get used to.

The transmission is very similar to the Toyota Prius, which I think is
nicely explained by Graham. The ratios and road speeds are not correct for
the Escape, but the overall effect seems in line.
<http://home.earthlink.net/~graham1/MyToyotaPrius/Understanding/PowerSplitDevice.htm>

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Old 04-10-2005, 15:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Escape hybrid

Thanks a lot for your info. I forgot about Edmunds...been on KBB.

Here in the Phila Area, they're all coming in pretty well loaded and going
for list. There is a $2,000 rebate but that and the tax credit of $2,000
that seems it. About half of the units the dealers are getting even have
the Nav system.

Jeff

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> Anyone have any experience or info other than reviews?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jeff
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Old 04-11-2005, 19:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Escape hybrid

On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:29:25 -0400, "Jeff Berk"
<berknotthis@brodskyberk.com> wrote:

>Anyone have any experience or info other than reviews?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Jeff
>

yup
i work on them
better to wait
the have a few bugs to work out

hurc ast
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