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Old 10-29-2005, 16:01   #1 (permalink)
John Perry
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Failed Mass auto inspection



I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time finding
the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the part. The part
is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.

Thanks John


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Old 10-29-2005, 18:01   #2 (permalink)
Berkshire Bill
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Re: Failed Mass auto inspection


"John Perry" <johnfperryt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time finding
> the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the part. The
> part is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.
>
> Thanks John
>

Not sure about the web, but there are more than 150 auto salvage yards in
the State of Massachusetts. Most of us are listed in the yellow pages.


Bill


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Old 10-29-2005, 19:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Failed Mass auto inspection

Are you sure that the concern is the PCM? It is rare that there is the need
to replace these units. I'd want to be sure that this is, indded the problem
before replacing it on a guess..... just a little friendly advice...


"John Perry" <johnfperryt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time finding
> the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the part. The

part
> is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.
>
> Thanks John
>
>



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Old 10-29-2005, 19:01   #4 (permalink)
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"John Perry" <johnfperryt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort.


Might I ask why? Are you thinking that's the reason you failed an emissions
test?
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Old 10-30-2005, 03:01   #5 (permalink)
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I tried the junk yards. Hard part to find at the junk yard. I am sure Ford
would have it but I was hoping to get a discounted part on the Web.

My computer is working, it passes if they stick the wand in the tailpipe.
But Mass reads the codes from the computer now, no more wand, and the tester
it seems can not communicate with the computer.

This actually failed several years back when Ford tried to update the
computer with new firmware because of a recall, it could not be downloaded.
I should have pushed back more at the time.

John





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>
> I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time finding
> the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the part. The
> part is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.
>
> Thanks John
>



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Old 10-30-2005, 06:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Failed Mass auto inspection

John Perry wrote:
> I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time finding
> the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the part. The part
> is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.
>
> Thanks John
>
>


Here's 6 in New England alone:

1998
Engine Computer
Ford Escort 2.0L,5MT,CHECK ID 23858 $100
Linder's Inc. USA-MA(Worcester) 1-800-521-8000


1998
Engine Computer
Ford Escort F8CF-MC LMS40716 $95 GreenLeaf MA Leominster
USA-MA(Leominster) 1-800-343-6122


1998
Engine Computer
Ford Escort F8CF-12A650-MC W8364 $60
Colony Used Auto Parts USA-NH(Rochester) 1-800-439-6101


1998
Engine Computer
Ford Escort MT 2.0L F8CF 12A650-MC 050221 $40
Alberts Used Auto Parts USA-CT(Thomaston) 1-800-560-0760


1998
Engine Computer
Ford Escort 1-98,CHK ID 05-162 $40
Colony Used Auto Parts USA-NH(Rochester) 1-800-439-6101


1998
Engine Computer
Ford Escort RUNNING 040023 $Call
North Anson Recycling USA-ME(North-Anson) 1-877-721-7195


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Old 10-30-2005, 10:01   #7 (permalink)
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I'm not sure what a used PCM will set you back. If the cost is significant,
you may want to ensure that all the wires to the DLC have continuity to
wherever they go. It may sound like a daunting task but, IIRC, less than
half the pins on the 16 pin DLC are actually used and even less than that
are required for PCM network communication.

You can start by looking for pushed out pins in any connectors.

I'm off to school tomorrow night for three days so it will be difficult for
me to find time to write up a pin out (and my job prohibits me from doing a
cut and paste on shop manual content)... this may be a time where an AllData
subscription might help you.

As an afterthought.... Blue Streak (Standard Motor Products) used to offer a
reconditioning service. I'm not sure if they still do but it's worth a look.
I only tried them once and was disappointed but that may be the result of
the nature of the concern I was addressing.

HTH


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> I tried the junk yards. Hard part to find at the junk yard. I am sure

Ford
> would have it but I was hoping to get a discounted part on the Web.
>
> My computer is working, it passes if they stick the wand in the tailpipe.
> But Mass reads the codes from the computer now, no more wand, and the

tester
> it seems can not communicate with the computer.
>
> This actually failed several years back when Ford tried to update the
> computer with new firmware because of a recall, it could not be

downloaded.
> I should have pushed back more at the time.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Perry" <johnfperryt@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:mPS8f.3017$AS6.2626@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> >
> > I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time

finding
> > the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the part. The
> > part is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.
> >
> > Thanks John
> >

>
>



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Old 11-03-2005, 16:01   #8 (permalink)
John Perry
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Re: Failed Mass auto inspection

I got one from Alberts Used Auto Parts USA-CT. It was the computer. Thanks
for everyone help.

John



"trainfan1" <lmsearing@usdatanet.net> wrote in message
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> John Perry wrote:
>> I am looking for a computer for a 1998 Escort. Having a hard time
>> finding the part on the Web. Anyone know a site where I can get the
>> part. The part is labled f8CF-12A650-MC.
>>
>> Thanks John

>
> Here's 6 in New England alone:
>
> 1998
> Engine Computer
> Ford Escort 2.0L,5MT,CHECK ID 23858 $100 Linder's Inc. USA-MA(Worcester)
> 1-800-521-8000
>
>
> 1998
> Engine Computer
> Ford Escort F8CF-MC LMS40716 $95 GreenLeaf MA Leominster
> USA-MA(Leominster) 1-800-343-6122
>
>
> 1998
> Engine Computer
> Ford Escort F8CF-12A650-MC W8364 $60 Colony Used Auto Parts
> USA-NH(Rochester) 1-800-439-6101
>
>
> 1998
> Engine Computer
> Ford Escort MT 2.0L F8CF 12A650-MC 050221 $40 Alberts Used Auto Parts
> USA-CT(Thomaston) 1-800-560-0760
>
>
> 1998
> Engine Computer
> Ford Escort 1-98,CHK ID 05-162 $40 Colony Used Auto Parts
> USA-NH(Rochester) 1-800-439-6101
>
>
> 1998
> Engine Computer
> Ford Escort RUNNING 040023 $Call North Anson Recycling
> USA-ME(North-Anson) 1-877-721-7195
>
>
> Rob



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