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Old 07-24-2005, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
kennycraze
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Ford Ranger XL

My 96 Ranger 2.3 litre (Nissan) engine is driving me crazy. It performs
great on the highway but terrible in stop and go traffic. I've replaced
the timing belt, plugs and wires and a pile of sensors but it runs the
same as ever. Engine timing acts like it is off below 1500 rpm and
responds poorly to the accelerator pedal at the bottom of the stroke
through every gear.

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Old 07-24-2005, 15:01   #2 (permalink)
MajorDomo@mailcity.com
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

Two questions, why do you have a Nissan engine in a Ford?
Secondly, Why not take it to a competent technician with the
proper analyzer and have it fixed properly rather than changing
parts willy nilly?


mike hunt




kennycraze wrote:
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> My 96 Ranger 2.3 litre (Nissan) engine is driving me crazy. It performs
> great on the highway but terrible in stop and go traffic. I've replaced
> the timing belt, plugs and wires and a pile of sensors but it runs the
> same as ever. Engine timing acts like it is off below 1500 rpm and
> responds poorly to the accelerator pedal at the bottom of the stroke
> through every gear.

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Old 07-24-2005, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

could be transmission prblem


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Old 07-25-2005, 07:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

No sir,not a transmission problem. The engine is a dual head plug type with
coil packs and no rotating distibutor. It is Japanese just as Mazda and
Ford are affiliated except the japs know how to inject and fire an engine
using their own superior electronic systems. My Ford has FoMoCo sensors
PCMs etc. etc.

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Old 07-25-2005, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

This is not A Ford (dual plug head engine) and I hav'nt changed anything.
Ford and Mazda are the same in these years except the Ranger has Ford
electronics.
As far as having it analysed Iv'e gone to about every competent tech I
could find with no luck. The last guy phoned the Ford dealer with
questions about the MAF sensor even though he had no codes showing up and
the engine check light was out. He got a long moment of silence but no
insight and suspected Ford knows about this problem and it is universal
with all the standard transmission XL's of that year. He agreed it was a
pain to drive and dangerous (stalling in traffic).
I guess what I am asking is there anyone else out there with the same
problem??

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Old 07-25-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

"kennycraze" <unclesam@telus.net> wrote in
news:ebec902f1bb391ffe0f2612f281b6231@localhost.talkaboutautos.com:

> This is not A Ford (dual plug head engine) and I hav'nt changed anything.
> Ford and Mazda are the same in these years except the Ranger has Ford
> electronics.
> As far as having it analysed Iv'e gone to about every competent tech I
> could find with no luck. The last guy phoned the Ford dealer with
> questions about the MAF sensor even though he had no codes showing up and
> the engine check light was out. He got a long moment of silence but no
> insight and suspected Ford knows about this problem and it is universal
> with all the standard transmission XL's of that year. He agreed it was a
> pain to drive and dangerous (stalling in traffic).
> I guess what I am asking is there anyone else out there with the same
> problem??
>
>


Why the correlation of "Dual Plug Engine" and NOT a Ford? The ford 2.3's
were DIS/dual plug since 99 or so.

just a crazy hunch... try disconnecting the maf connector (WITH key OFF,
naturally) and see if it drives better.

if it does... then clean the maf.

if it doesnt want to run at all, that points to another sensor bad.. or
seen as bad by the pcm.

a dirty maf wont set any codes.
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Old 07-25-2005, 08:01   #7 (permalink)
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correction:

Backyard Mechanic <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in
news:Xns969E65E899E78pettyfogery@207.115.63.158:

> The ford 2.3's
> were DIS/dual plug since EIGHTY NINE or so.
>


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Old 07-25-2005, 10:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL


"kennycraze" <unclesam@telus.net> wrote in message
news:ebec902f1bb391ffe0f2612f281b6231@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...
> This is not A Ford (dual plug head engine) and I hav'nt changed anything.
> Ford and Mazda are the same in these years except the Ranger has Ford
> electronics.


I think you are wrong about that. The later Mazda trucks sold in the US are
literally just rebadged Rangers with slightly (very slightly) different
sheet metal, different grilles and different interior trim. Drive train is
all Ford with Ford electronics. They still sell "real" Mazda trucks in other
markets. And in some markets, Ford sells rebadged Mazda trucks as Rangers.
Now if you want to go back to the late 70's, you got some really strage
combinations. We had a Courier that had a cab and chassis built in Japan, a
bed built in California, the engine short block was a Brazilian built
variation of the 2.3L Pinto engine but had a Japanese carburetor and
electronics. The automatic was a Jatco transmission. It was a nightmare at
the parts store.

Ed


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Old 07-25-2005, 11:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

<MajorDomo@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:42E406B8.4753201F@mailcity.com...
> Two questions, why do you have a Nissan engine in a Ford?
> Secondly, Why not take it to a competent technician with the
> proper analyzer and have it fixed properly rather than changing
> parts willy nilly?
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
>
>
> kennycraze wrote:
>>
>> My 96 Ranger 2.3 litre (Nissan) engine is driving me crazy. It performs
>> great on the highway but terrible in stop and go traffic. I've replaced
>> the timing belt, plugs and wires and a pile of sensors but it runs the
>> same as ever. Engine timing acts like it is off below 1500 rpm and
>> responds poorly to the accelerator pedal at the bottom of the stroke
>> through every gear.


I assume he means Mazda instead of Nissan, but he's still wrong, I think.
The 96 Ranger is 100% Ford. The engine is a Ford engine. Even the Mazda
trucks of that era are 100% Ford except the badging.

The only exception, I think, is the 5 speed manual Mazda transmission that's
in both Ford and Mazda versions.

That's the way I understand it, anyway.

CJB


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Old 07-25-2005, 15:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger XL

Thanks Backyard, That is the useful info Iv'e had so far. The MAF on this
thing is placed in the most retarded of places, right inside the air
cleaner housing where it picks up oil and gets soaked. This especially, if
the the previous owner (a woman) never bothered to notice the pcv valve
inoperative.
As far as the dual plug set up goes I hear they are used in airplanes for
depenability. Two separate(rotating) magnetos supply each set of plugs
with real voltage. I doubt any aircraft would dare employ this same type
of computerized coil pack system designed by Ford specifically to make
money off fools like me and cause nervous breakdowns.

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