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Old 11-16-2005, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
Paul of Dayon
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Leaking Water Pump

Hi Folks -

I changed the tranny fluid and filter in my '93 Cougar today. It has the
3.8L six and about 115k on it. I noticed while prowling under it that there
seems to be slight leakage coming from the weep hole in the water pump. It
was basically dry even tho it was fully warmed up and pressurized but I
smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a few places. I know it's
time for a new pump and probably fan clutch, thermostat, and hoses.

I really want to wait a few weeks to do this job so I can do it myself. The
problem is that I have some road trips planned in between. One is a 5-hour
each way trip and the other is about 3-hours each way. Any ideas if I can
safely put this job off if I watch coolant levels and temperature closely?
There appears to be no play in the pump shaft.

Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?

Thanks for your input, folks!

PoD


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Old 11-16-2005, 17:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Leaking Water Pump

The effects of holy water will depend on your particular religious
convictions. Anything else is a waste of money, I am afraid. It's typically
the sign of a shot bearing. Once you loosen the tension on the belt, you'll
be surprised to see how much wobbling is there...
From you description it sounds like you can still drive it, if you keep a
close eye on it, but I would replace before a long drive. Who wants to be
stranded a couple hundred miles away from home? Don't try to save $10 by
buying a reman. If you are doing the job yourself, note that at least one of
the bolts sits in the water jacket and must be coated with pipe sealant, or
it will rust and seize (check the manual to see which one).

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul of Dayon" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com
....
> I noticed while prowling under it that there seems to be slight leakage

coming from the weep hole in > the water pump. It was basically dry even
tho it was fully warmed up and pressurized but I
> smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a few places. I know

it's time for a new pump and
> probably fan clutch, thermostat, and hoses.


> Any ideas if I can safely put this job off if I watch coolant levels and

temperature closely?
> There appears to be no play in the pump shaft.
> Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?



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Old 11-16-2005, 18:01   #3 (permalink)
Paul of Dayon
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Re: Leaking Water Pump

Thanks HT,
I figured as much. As far as a reman goes, I checked a couple of parts
barns online and new ones from Cardone and ASC are significantly more than
reman but a New Duralast (AZ) is $1 more than a reman.

PoD


"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler@abc.net> wrote in message
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> The effects of holy water will depend on your particular religious
> convictions. Anything else is a waste of money, I am afraid. It's
> typically
> the sign of a shot bearing. Once you loosen the tension on the belt,
> you'll
> be surprised to see how much wobbling is there...
> From you description it sounds like you can still drive it, if you keep a
> close eye on it, but I would replace before a long drive. Who wants to be
> stranded a couple hundred miles away from home? Don't try to save $10 by
> buying a reman. If you are doing the job yourself, note that at least one
> of
> the bolts sits in the water jacket and must be coated with pipe sealant,
> or
> it will rust and seize (check the manual to see which one).
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul of Dayon" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com
> ...
>> I noticed while prowling under it that there seems to be slight leakage

> coming from the weep hole in > the water pump. It was basically dry even
> tho it was fully warmed up and pressurized but I
>> smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a few places. I know

> it's time for a new pump and
>> probably fan clutch, thermostat, and hoses.

>
>> Any ideas if I can safely put this job off if I watch coolant levels and

> temperature closely?
>> There appears to be no play in the pump shaft.
>> Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?

>
>



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Old 11-16-2005, 21:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Leaking Water Pump

Well good luck.

I've changeed two water pumps in the last six months.

the first, Aerostar, 3.0, never put a spot on the ground but came totally
apart on I 70 in the middle of a 50 mile trip.

The second, my TB 3.8, previously left no spots but I came out one
morning to find about 2 quarts on the ground.

I was scheduled in Cols in the afternoon so a quick trip and fairly
uneventful change and I left the house only a few minutes later than I
had planned to... and found a big jam on 70 as I started to get on..

If I had left on time, with that pump leaking at all, I would have been
in the middle of it with no way to get off.....


"Paul of Dayon" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks -
>
> I changed the tranny fluid and filter in my '93 Cougar today. It has
> the 3.8L six and about 115k on it. I noticed while prowling under it
> that there seems to be slight leakage coming from the weep hole in the
> water pump. It was basically dry even tho it was fully warmed up and
> pressurized but I smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a
> few places. I know it's time for a new pump and probably fan clutch,
> thermostat, and hoses.
>
> I really want to wait a few weeks to do this job so I can do it
> myself. The problem is that I have some road trips planned in
> between. One is a 5-hour each way trip and the other is about 3-hours
> each way. Any ideas if I can safely put this job off if I watch
> coolant levels and temperature closely? There appears to be no play in
> the pump shaft.
>
> Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?
>
> Thanks for your input, folks!
>
> PoD
>
>




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Old 11-16-2005, 22:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Leaking Water Pump

Paul of Dayon wrote:
> Hi Folks -
>
> I changed the tranny fluid and filter in my '93 Cougar today. It has the
> 3.8L six and about 115k on it. I noticed while prowling under it that there
> seems to be slight leakage coming from the weep hole in the water pump. It
> was basically dry even tho it was fully warmed up and pressurized but I
> smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a few places. I know it's
> time for a new pump and probably fan clutch, thermostat, and hoses.
>
> I really want to wait a few weeks to do this job so I can do it myself. The
> problem is that I have some road trips planned in between. One is a 5-hour
> each way trip and the other is about 3-hours each way. Any ideas if I can
> safely put this job off if I watch coolant levels and temperature closely?
> There appears to be no play in the pump shaft.
>
> Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?
>
> Thanks for your input, folks!
>
> PoD
>
>


Skip the Bars Leaks, pump lube, it can plug the heater core very nicely. Holy Water
will work vastly better. The pump seal is leaking slightly. It could last for your
entire trip or for 6 months, or for 1 year, or ...... dump all of your coolant half
way into your planned road trip. Do you have the faith??
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Old 11-16-2005, 23:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Leaking Water Pump


"Paul of Dayon" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Folks -
>
> I changed the tranny fluid and filter in my '93 Cougar today. It has the
> 3.8L six and about 115k on it. I noticed while prowling under it that
> there seems to be slight leakage coming from the weep hole in the water
> pump. It was basically dry even tho it was fully warmed up and
> pressurized but I smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a few
> places. I know it's time for a new pump and probably fan clutch,
> thermostat, and hoses.
>
> I really want to wait a few weeks to do this job so I can do it myself.
> The problem is that I have some road trips planned in between. One is a
> 5-hour each way trip and the other is about 3-hours each way. Any ideas
> if I can safely put this job off if I watch coolant levels and temperature
> closely? There appears to be no play in the pump shaft.
>
> Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?
>
> Thanks for your input, folks!
>
> PoD

Feeling lucky?


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Old 11-17-2005, 05:01   #7 (permalink)
Paul of Dayon
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Re: Leaking Water Pump

Thanks for all the info guys. I think my luck is OK... but I haven't won
the lottery yet. Pushing my luck like that scares the **** out of me. I
will be visiting my friendly parts guy today...

PoD


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Old 11-18-2005, 16:01   #8 (permalink)
Paul of Dayon
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Re: Leaking Water Pump - part Deux

Whoda thunk you'd need to remove the power stering pulley to change a water
pump. Whoda thunk you have to use a special tool to get said pully off and
a different special tool to put it back on with?!?...

The brace that goes between the water pump and steering pump is held on with
bolts behind the very close fitting pulley. The pulley is plastic. The
pump doesn't like any in/out on the shaft. Geezz.

I am usually quite happy with the improvements made to modern autos... but
sometimes I have doubts...

Oh, it's the ;93 Cougar 3.8L. Now I have to wait for the other car to come
home so I can visit the mega-barn O parts again....

At least I can warm up a bit - it's cold in Dayton today.

Thanks for letting me rant....

PoD


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Old 12-03-2005, 20:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Leaking Water Pump

Paul of Dayon wrote:
> Hi Folks -
>
> I changed the tranny fluid and filter in my '93 Cougar today. It has the
> 3.8L six and about 115k on it. I noticed while prowling under it that there
> seems to be slight leakage coming from the weep hole in the water pump. It
> was basically dry even tho it was fully warmed up and pressurized but I
> smelled it and saw a trail and a bit of green in a few places. I know it's
> time for a new pump and probably fan clutch, thermostat, and hoses.
>
> I really want to wait a few weeks to do this job so I can do it myself. The
> problem is that I have some road trips planned in between. One is a 5-hour
> each way trip and the other is about 3-hours each way. Any ideas if I can
> safely put this job off if I watch coolant levels and temperature closely?
> There appears to be no play in the pump shaft.
>
> Maybe I should dump in some Bar's? A can of pump lube? Holy water?
>
> Thanks for your input, folks!
>
> PoD
>
>

take plenty of coolant
and drive wherever u wanna go ..... just keep in mind coolant leak
passes thru the bearing so it could last for hundreds of miles of go in
10...
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