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Old 07-23-2005, 01:01   #1 (permalink)
Craig Shaffer
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Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and by
8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all the
nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane. We
turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light had
changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its side.
What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the sun
was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has no
redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I would
not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they
cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could
not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any young
children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to
outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my wife
is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her. But
I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.


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Old 07-23-2005, 06:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles


"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:8VlEe.24950$5N3.20932@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
> wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
> safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and
> by
> 8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
> Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all
> the
> nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
> they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
> lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane.
> We
> turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light
> had
> changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
> much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its
> side.
> What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer,
> and
> you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the
> sun
> was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
> been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
> skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has
> no
> redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
> Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't
> have
> to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I
> would
> not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
> that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
> back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't
> be
> hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew
> they
> cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
> car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
> Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
> living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I
> could
> not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
> cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any
> young
> children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
> running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
> for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them
> to
> outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
> children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
> sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
> dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
> for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
> until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
> get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
> mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my
> wife
> is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her.
> But
> I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
> she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will
> prevent
> her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>
>
>


I don't know what you were driving before, but an SUV is not a sports car. I
traded a 2000 Mitsu Eclipse in for a 2002 Escape, and, I have to admit,
there was a slight learning curve. I never felt like the vehicle was out of
control, though. Labor Day will make 3 years that I've owned it, and I
wouldn't trade it for anything. Plenty of pep, great handling, and once I
got rid of those crappy Continental tires, great traction. I don't do any
off-road stuff to speak of, so I got the 2WD V6 XLT instead of the 4WD. If I
were you, I'd take it easy for a while and learn to drive it before telling
every one what a lousy vehicle it is. Part of it may be that you were scared
to death before you even got in it. I get the impression from your post that
you were the passenger in it- that's a much different feeling in any car
than being the driver. Give it a chance, and I think you'll like it. I know
I love mine.
Good luck!
SC Tom


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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
lugnut
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:59:16 GMT, "Craig Shaffer"
<CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
>wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
>safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and by
>8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
>Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all the
>nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
>they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
>lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane. We
>turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light had
>changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
>much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its side.
>What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
>you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the sun
>was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
>been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
>skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has no
>redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
>Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
>to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I would
>not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
>that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
>back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
>hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they
>cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
>car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
>Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
>living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could
>not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
>cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any young
>children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
>running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
>for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to
>outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
>children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
>sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
>dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
>for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
>until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
>get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
>mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my wife
>is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her. But
>I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>


I suspect you are a troll but, on the off chance that you
are not:

Why don't you just go ahead and admit that you are a control
freak and are vey pissed that your wife did not buy what you
wanted her to buy and, you don't "really" like Ford
products. While your are looking at "rice rockets",
remember that you are better of on the bus than in the
Honda when they play contact sports. If you are as paranoid
as your post would indicate, you should not allow yourself
outside an empty well-padded room while your wife attends
the business of getting on with life. If you allow your
paranoia to control your life, you are much more likely to
die of a heart attack than a traffic accident in an Escape.
If the Escape were as dangerous as you insinuate, Ford would
not have sold hundreds of thousands to happy owners.

Lugnut

PS: That body roll that you find so offensive in the SUV is
a blessing for drivers of vehicles with high center of mass.
It gives them a seat-of-the-pants feel for what the vehicle
is doing long before it actually rolls instead of waiting to
give you a complete surprise. Also, you might consider the
necessity for the suspension of an SUV to be highly
compliant with uneven surfaces for those who choose to take
them offroad. Without this compliance, an SUV would be
worthless in offroad operation. An automobile (sports car)
on the other hand has an entirely different mission to keep
the vehicle stabil and the wheels in contact with the
surface at high speeds. At this point in automotive
history, no automotive engineer has found a way to design a
suspension that can meet all of the optimum criteria for a
vehicle to operate in all environments with equal applomb.
That's why we have so many categories of vehicle available
from which you can choose to best meet your needs and
preferences. Get used to it!
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #4 (permalink)
finiteguy
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

The original poster probably wouldn't be satisfied with a tank. My
wife has a 2005 Escape and I have had no issues with feeling like its
going to roll over. I bought the extra side air curtain for extra
protection, but I don't anticipate rollovers or any other problem


On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:59:06 -0400, lugnut <lugnut@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:59:16 GMT, "Craig Shaffer"
><CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
>>wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
>>safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and by
>>8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
>>Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all the
>>nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
>>they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
>>lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane. We
>>turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light had
>>changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
>>much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its side.
>>What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
>>you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the sun
>>was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
>>been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
>>skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has no
>>redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
>>Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
>>to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I would
>>not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
>>that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
>>back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
>>hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they
>>cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
>>car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
>>Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
>>living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could
>>not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
>>cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any young
>>children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
>>running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
>>for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to
>>outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
>>children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
>>sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
>>dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
>>for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
>>until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
>>get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
>>mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my wife
>>is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her. But
>>I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
>>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>>

>
>I suspect you are a troll but, on the off chance that you
>are not:
>
>Why don't you just go ahead and admit that you are a control
>freak and are vey pissed that your wife did not buy what you
>wanted her to buy and, you don't "really" like Ford
>products. While your are looking at "rice rockets",
>remember that you are better of on the bus than in the
>Honda when they play contact sports. If you are as paranoid
>as your post would indicate, you should not allow yourself
>outside an empty well-padded room while your wife attends
>the business of getting on with life. If you allow your
>paranoia to control your life, you are much more likely to
>die of a heart attack than a traffic accident in an Escape.
>If the Escape were as dangerous as you insinuate, Ford would
>not have sold hundreds of thousands to happy owners.
>
>Lugnut
>
>PS: That body roll that you find so offensive in the SUV is
>a blessing for drivers of vehicles with high center of mass.
>It gives them a seat-of-the-pants feel for what the vehicle
>is doing long before it actually rolls instead of waiting to
>give you a complete surprise. Also, you might consider the
>necessity for the suspension of an SUV to be highly
>compliant with uneven surfaces for those who choose to take
>them offroad. Without this compliance, an SUV would be
>worthless in offroad operation. An automobile (sports car)
>on the other hand has an entirely different mission to keep
>the vehicle stabil and the wheels in contact with the
>surface at high speeds. At this point in automotive
>history, no automotive engineer has found a way to design a
>suspension that can meet all of the optimum criteria for a
>vehicle to operate in all environments with equal applomb.
>That's why we have so many categories of vehicle available
>from which you can choose to best meet your needs and
>preferences. Get used to it!


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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #5 (permalink)
Rick
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles


"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:8VlEe.24950$5N3.20932@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but

unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray

that my
> wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's

are
> safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today,

and by
> 8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford

Customer
> Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of

all the
> nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that

somehow
> they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in

the turn
> lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn

lane. We
> turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the

light had
> changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape

had so
> much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on

its side.
> What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque

steer, and
> you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God

the sun
> was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road.

Had it
> been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a

unrecoverable
> skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This

vehicle has no
> redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
> Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and

doesn't have
> to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that

I would
> not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get

into
> that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and

came
> back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she

wouldn't be
> hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I

knew they
> cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about

riding in a
> car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the

1973
> Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that

scared the
> living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle

I could
> not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work,

until I
> cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have

any young
> children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an

excited
> running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator

asking
> for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing

them to
> outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of

little
> children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this

experience, I
> sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to

the
> dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put

down cash
> for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back

yard
> until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on

monday to
> get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over

100,000
> mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if

my wife
> is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop

her. But
> I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in

it. If
> she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will

prevent
> her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>


Bet you're a real hoot at parties-what a drama queen....



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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles


"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:8VlEe.24950$5N3.20932@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but

unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray

that my
> wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's

are
> safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today,

and by
> 8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford

Customer
> Relations, and Bill Ford himself.


>SNIP


From the rest of your post, sounds like you should have written to Dr.
Phil instead....


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Old 07-23-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it



Snip tosh.

You berk.

On the assumption that you're not a troll, "stupid buyer beware" - did you
not test it?

Have you read the handbook?

You we care?

--
The DervMan
www.dervman.com


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Old 07-23-2005, 14:01   #8 (permalink)
johanb
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

I had 1 for 3 years/52000 mls, best car I ever had

Maybe you don't know how to drive..........


"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:8VlEe.24950$5N3.20932@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
> wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
> safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and

by
> 8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
> Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all

the
> nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
> they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
> lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane.

We
> turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light

had
> changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
> much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its

side.
> What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer,

and
> you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the

sun
> was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
> been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
> skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has

no
> redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
> Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't

have
> to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I

would
> not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
> that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
> back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't

be
> hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew

they
> cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
> car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
> Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
> living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I

could
> not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
> cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any

young
> children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
> running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
> for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them

to
> outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
> children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
> sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
> dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
> for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
> until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
> get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
> mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my

wife
> is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her.

But
> I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
> she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will

prevent
> her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>
>



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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

Craig Shaffer wrote:
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but
> unfortunately it has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.


Welcome to the land of SUVs.

> After this unpleasant experience I found something that
> scared the living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of
> the vehicle I could not see if any cars were comming past in the
> parking lot at work, until I cleared the back of the Escape. I am
> greatful that we don't have any young children now, because if I
> couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited running child could never
> see or be seen.


It works like this:
If you didn't buy the ultrasonic "kid-minder", you don't worry about it -
they're somebody else's problem. Hell, Limbaugh is probably cranked up too
loud to hear the alarm anyway.

On the flip-side, that Escape has all the height, power and handling
abilities you'll likely need for the single occupant/bag-o-groceries they're
typically lugging around.

Enjoy!





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Old 07-23-2005, 16:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Nightmare with 2005 Escape with under 50 miles

"Craig Shaffer" wrote: "Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy
experience, but unfortunately it has turned into the worst nightmare I have
ever had. I just pray that my wife is not killed in it. She has bought into
the myth that SUV's are safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape
about 1:30 today, and by 8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state
senator, Ford Customer Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying
it, because of all the nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the
chance that somehow they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We
were in the turn lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far
right turn lane. We turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road
after the light had changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph,
the Escape had so much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to
end up on its side.
What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the sun
was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has no
redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I would
not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
hurt or killed.

In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they cought fire and
could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a car as I did in
the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973 Pinto. After this
unpleasant experience I found something that scared the living daylights out
of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could not see if any cars
were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I cleared the back of
the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any young children now, because
if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited running child could never
see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking for legislation banning
SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to outter areas of shopping
centers and malls just for the safety of little children. I am a died in the
wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I sure am going to take a look at
Rice Rockets.

I sent an E-Mail to the dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking
if we can put down cash for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can
sit in the back yard until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the
bank on monday to get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year
old over 100,000 mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid,
and if my wife is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can
stop her. But I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take
anybody in it. If she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it,
but I will prevent her from hurting or killing anybody else in it."

Did you test drive the vehicle before you bought or did you let your wife
test drive it then tell you she wanted it? Did you walk around the vehicle
and observe the fact that you can not see and other vehicles coming until
you cleared the back end? Writing to demand more legislation on where
people should park is not the answer. I own two 3/4 ton pickups and 4
automobiles. I have a camper shell on one of the trucks and the other has a
lid. I cannot see around the backend of the one with the camper shell until
I clear the end of it.

I knew putting this thing on the back would reduce my line of sight and it
also hinders the sight of others parked next to me. Rather then be selfish
and make it harder on others parked next to me in a shopping center, I
choose to back in most of the time. Other times I park to the back of the
lot. This not only helps others but it keeps people from hitting my trucks
while they backing out trying to see and forget where the front end is.

Learn to drive the thing or sell it for a loss.

Sarge


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