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Old 10-09-2005, 12:01   #1 (permalink)
Jay Anderson
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o/d trans swap

k guys heres the deal...i have a 69 Torino gt fastback with a 351 w/c4 auto
combo...what i want to do is swap in a newer overdrive trans for better
hiway cruisin( lower rpms...etc...etc..) what i dont want is something
computer or electronicaly controlled....just good old fashioned shift with
yer right hand kinda deal....any suggestions???


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Old 10-09-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: o/d trans swap

"Jay Anderson" <doc_fur@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:qbd2f.126563$oW2.123158@pd7tw1no:

> k guys heres the deal...i have a 69 Torino gt fastback with a 351
> w/c4 auto combo...what i want to do is swap in a newer overdrive trans
> for better hiway cruisin( lower rpms...etc...etc..) what i dont want
> is something computer or electronicaly controlled....just good old
> fashioned shift with yer right hand kinda deal....any suggestions???
>
>



Well, there's some guys on here who would know that but why not search the
net with google for a higher concentration of users... this as you see is
primarily a common-systems-fix type forum.

Try also:

rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang

As there are a lot of swap-savvy guys on there. My guess would be the AOD
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Old 10-09-2005, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: o/d trans swap

Jay Anderson wrote:

> k guys heres the deal...i have a 69 Torino gt fastback with a 351 w/c4 auto
> combo...what i want to do is swap in a newer overdrive trans for better
> hiway cruisin( lower rpms...etc...etc..) what i dont want is something
> computer or electronicaly controlled....just good old fashioned shift with
> yer right hand kinda deal....any suggestions???
>
>


http://www.lentechautomatics.com/

Rob
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Old 10-09-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: o/d trans swap

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:20:06 GMT, "Jay Anderson"
<doc_fur@hotmail.com> wrote:

>k guys heres the deal...i have a 69 Torino gt fastback with a 351 w/c4 auto
>combo...what i want to do is swap in a newer overdrive trans for better
>hiway cruisin( lower rpms...etc...etc..) what i dont want is something
>computer or electronicaly controlled....just good old fashioned shift with
>yer right hand kinda deal....any suggestions???
>



About the only thing you can look for is an AOD or some
flavor. You need to find one from behind a 351W for two
reasons. It will aloready be up to handling the 351 with
respect to clutch packs and the flywheel balance is not the
same as a 5.0L. The problem with a regular AOD is the
requirement for the throttle cable to keep the line pressure
correct and operate passing gear. There my be someone arond
who has a likkage kit but, the trans is finnicky and will
destroy itself if you can't keep the pressures up properly.

The AOD-E is the electronic version used from about '92 up
thru about 1995 in cars. They are plentiful. You will need
the small block Winsor bell housing pattern. I don't know
if this was used in the cars.

If you can find and afford it, your best selection would be
a 4R70W which is electronically controlled. It can be found
in the light trucks from about '93 up and cars from about
1996. Folks like Baumann Brothers should have a kit to
operate it making installation about as easy as using an AOD
with a bunch stronger gearbox and a wide ratio gear set to
get the Torino off the line a bit quicker than the AOD.

I think if you go to the Mustang group, you may find quite a
bit of help getting it OD'd

Lugnut
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Old 10-09-2005, 18:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: o/d trans swap

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 18:20:06 GMT, "Jay Anderson" <doc_fur@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>k guys heres the deal...i have a 69 Torino gt fastback with a 351 w/c4 auto
>combo...what i want to do is swap in a newer overdrive trans for better
>hiway cruisin( lower rpms...etc...etc..) what i dont want is something
>computer or electronicaly controlled....just good old fashioned shift with
>yer right hand kinda deal....any suggestions???
>

http://www.lentechautomatics.com/ IIRC they have a manual you can dl
with all manner of information.

www.windsor-foxx.com is another good source.

I got the following from www.transmissioncenter.net for converting my
65 Mustang C4 to AOD....

You would need at least our level 1 transmission with a shift kit or
level 2.
#94X crossmember
#89 throttle valve cable
#89X AOD shift lever
You will need a flywheel with a 11 1/2 inch bolt circle if you have a
10 1/2 inch now.

Spike
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