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Old 11-22-2005, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
Svend Meyland Nicolaisen
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OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

Hi

Does anybody have any information about the protocol and electrical
interface of the On Board Diagnostics on a Ford Escord from 1995? It is
equipped with a Zetec 1.8 engine. Is it OBD-II compliant?

Thanks,
Svend


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Old 11-22-2005, 07:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

"Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Does anybody have any information about the protocol and electrical
> interface of the On Board Diagnostics on a Ford Escord from 1995? It is
> equipped with a Zetec 1.8 engine. Is it OBD-II compliant?
>


Built where? No stickers under the hood? They tell what system it is, on
NorthAmerican cars.


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Old 11-22-2005, 07:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

It is built in Europe, Germany I think. It has as 16 pin connector where 7
of the pins are physically connected.

/Svend


"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message
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> "Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Does anybody have any information about the protocol and electrical
>> interface of the On Board Diagnostics on a Ford Escord from 1995? It is
>> equipped with a Zetec 1.8 engine. Is it OBD-II compliant?
>>

>
> Built where? No stickers under the hood? They tell what system it is, on
> NorthAmerican cars.
>
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!



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Old 11-22-2005, 08:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

"Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:

> It is built in Europe, Germany I think. It has as 16 pin connector
> where 7 of the pins are physically connected.



Well, then!

http://www.obdii.com/connector.html

courtesy google, ET 10 seconds

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Old 11-22-2005, 08:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

Backyard Mechanic <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote:

> "Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:
>
>> It is built in Europe, Germany I think. It has as 16 pin connector
>> where 7 of the pins are physically connected.

>
>
> Well, then!
>
> http://www.obdii.com/connector.html
>
> courtesy google, ET 10 seconds
>


Note:

Should be
ISO 9141-2--The connector should have metallic contacts in pins 4, 5, 7,
15, and 16.

Additional pins do NOT mean it isnt compliant to 9141

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Old 11-22-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

Well I have found that page too but how can I be sure that the information
corresponds to my car. The page says it apllies to cars sold in US.

Another thing is that the connector in my car is not "D formed" but rather
"formed as a square".

/Svend

"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message
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> "Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:
>
>> It is built in Europe, Germany I think. It has as 16 pin connector
>> where 7 of the pins are physically connected.

>
>
> Well, then!
>
> http://www.obdii.com/connector.html
>
> courtesy google, ET 10 seconds
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!



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Old 11-22-2005, 08:01   #7 (permalink)
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Ping Pottsy!

"Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:

> Well I have found that page too but how can I be sure that the
> information corresponds to my car. The page says it apllies to cars
> sold in US.
>
> Another thing is that the connector in my car is not "D formed" but
> rather "formed as a square".


Well, here's the search:

http://tinyurl.com/bqmax

You can play with it.. but I'm afraid, unless Pottsy has a clue to it,
you're not going to find ALL the answers on here.

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Old 11-22-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: OBD on Ford Escord from 1995

"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message
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> Backyard Mechanic <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote:
>
>> "Svend Meyland Nicolaisen" <news_remove_@smn.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> It is built in Europe, Germany I think. It has as 16 pin connector
>>> where 7 of the pins are physically connected.

>>
>>
>> Well, then!
>>
>> http://www.obdii.com/connector.html
>>
>> courtesy google, ET 10 seconds
>>

>
> Note:
>
> Should be
> ISO 9141-2--The connector should have metallic contacts in pins 4, 5, 7,
> 15, and 16.
>
> Additional pins do NOT mean it isnt compliant to 9141
>
> --
> Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
> you pay..DEAL with it!


My plug has connectors as follows, where * means connector and - no
connector:

* | *
* | -
- | -
* | -
* | -
* | *
- | -
- | -

If I try to apply this to the connector specified on the web page I can get
two possibilities (because I habe no apparent indicator of pin 1).

The first posibility is:

3 -
4 Chassis ground
5 Signal ground
7 ISO 9141-2 K Line
8 -
11 -
16 Battry power

The second posibility is

1 -
6 CAN High (J-2284)
14 - CAN Low (J-2284)
13 -
12 -
10 J1850 Bus
9 -

Neither of these posiblities seems to make sence.


So my hope is that someone can shed some light on what these specific cards
are equipped with. The worst case senario would be that it is some sort of
proprietary system of Ford in Europe.


/Svend


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Old 11-22-2005, 12:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Ping Pottsy!

Hiya,

Autodata Europe shows it as a 10 pin D series plug.

maybe a search by engine number or chassis number??

m



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Old 11-22-2005, 13:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Ping Pottsy!

It seems like it is a EEC-IV unit which is installed in the car. I don't
know if this gives anybody any clues?

/Svend

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> Hiya,
>
> Autodata Europe shows it as a 10 pin D series plug.
>
> maybe a search by engine number or chassis number??
>
> m
>
>
>



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