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Old 03-18-2005, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
barney rubble@sky.com
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picknose lets end it

hey picknose
heres my proof
wheres yours

hey tard tell me what does an oxidation reaction??

yup

it sure pumps out that 02 real good


my old teach at the university of montana
sent me this
as u can see it is copywritten

lmfao

hurc ast




Catalytic Converters
Fouled plugs can cause unburned fuel to overheat the converter and
melt the catalyst to a solid mass. If the O2 Sensor is not functioning
properly it will give the ECU incorrect readings of exhaust gasses.
The faulty sensor can cause an excessively rich or excessively lean
condition. If the mixture is too rich, the catalyst can melt down. If
the mixture is too lean, the converter is unable to convert the
hydrocarbons into safe elements.

Oil or antifreeze entering the exhaust system can block the air
passages by creating heavy carbon soot that coats the catalyst. These
heavy carbon deposits will cause two problems. First, the carbon
deposits prevent the catalytic converter from reducing harmful
emission in the exhaust flow. And second, the carbon deposits clog the
pores in the ceramic catalyst and block exhaust flow, increasing
backpressure and causing heat and exhaust to back up into the engine
compartment.

Your engine may actually draw burnt exhaust gasses back into the
combustion chamber and dilute the efficiency of the next burn cycle.
The result is a loss of power and overheated engine components.

____________________________________________________________________
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




Catalytic converters can be physically damaged as well. The catalyst
contained inside a catalytic converter is made from a lightweight,
thin-walled, fragile material. It is protected by a dense, insulating
mat. This mat holds the catalyst in place and provides moderate
protection against damage. Broken support hangers can cause the
converter to bounce around and the result can be breakage of the mat.
Rocks or other road debris can also hit the converter, causing the
internal mat to break also. Off road vehicles often suffer this type
of converter failure. Once this mat starts to break up, it will
collect in the smaller passages and clog the converter.

The catalytic converter should last the lifetime of the vehicle it is
installed in. if it does fail, it is most often a symptom of another
problem. This problem must be identified and repaired or the new
converter will fail in the same manner. You can keep it running well
by keeping the ignition system in top shape and to prevent any unburnt
fuel from entering the catalytic converter.

Here is an important safety reminder: Do not park your car over tall
grass or piles of dry leaves. Your cars perfectly running catalytic
converter gets very hot… enough to start fires!

Copyright © 2001 - 2003 Vincent T. Ciulla All Rights Reserved

Catalytic Converters
The term Catalytic Converter covers the stainless steel box mounted
in the exhaust system. Inside the cover is the catalyst, a ceramic or
metallic base with an active coating incorporating alumina, ceria and
other oxides and combinations of the precious metals platinum,
palladium and rhodium. The base can be protected from vibration and
shock by a resilient ceramic or metallic 'mat'

The main by-products of combustion are:

Nitrogen gas (N2): Our atmosphere is 78 percent nitrogen gas, and
most of this passes right through the car engine.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2): A harmless, odorless gas composed of carbon
and oxygen. It is also a greenhouse gas that contributes to global
warming.

Water vapor (H2O): Another by-product of combustion.


Reduce Carbon Emissions

The hydrogen in the fuel bonds with the oxygen in the air.

These three emissions are mostly harmless, although carbon dioxide
emissions are believed to contribute to global warming. However since
the combustion process is never perfect, other more harmful emissions
are produced in the process.

Carbon monoxide (CO): A colorless, odorless gas. It is poisonous
and extremely dangerous in confined areas, building up slowly to toxic
levels without warning if adequate ventilation is not available.

Hydrocarbons or volatile organic compounds (VOCs): Any chemical
compound made up of hydrogen and carbon.

Oxides of nitrogen (NOx): Chemical compounds of nitrogen, they
combine with hydrocarbons to produce smog.

These are the three main regulated emissions, and also the ones
that catalytic converters are designed to reduce.

Catalytic converters can either be an oxidation or three-way type.
Oxidation catalysts convert carbon monoxide (CO) and hydrocarbons (HC)
to carbon dioxide (CO2) and water, but have little effect on nitrogen
oxides (NOx) and particulate matter. Three-way catalysts operate in a
closed-loop system together with a lambda, or oxygen, sensor to
regulate the air/fuel ratio on gasoline engines. The catalyst can then
at the same time oxidize CO and HC to CO2 and water while reducing NOx
to nitrogen.

Most cars today are equipped with a three-way catalytic converter.
The term Three-way refers to the three emissions it helps to reduce,
carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons or volatile organic compounds (VOCs) and
NOx molecules. The converter uses two different types of catalysts, a
reduction catalyst and an oxidization catalyst. Both types consist of
a base structure coated with a catalyst such as platinum, rhodium
and/or palladium. The scheme is to create a structure that exposes the
maximum surface area of the catalyst to the exhaust flow, while also
minimizing the amount of catalyst required.

The inside of the catalytic converter is a honeycomb set of
passageways or small ceramic beads coated with catalysts. A chemical
reaction takes place to make the pollutants less harmful. There are
many passages for the exhaust gases to flow, to allow for the maximum
amount of surface area for the hot gases to pass.

In order to reduce emissions, modern car engines carefully control
the amount of fuel they burn. They try to keep the air-to-fuel ratio
very close to the stoichiometric point, which is the calculated ideal
ratio of air to fuel. Theoretically, at this ratio, all of the fuel
will be burned using all of the oxygen in the air. For gasoline
engines the stoichiometric ratio is about 14.7:1. This means that for
every pound of gasoline, 14.7 pounds of air will be burned. As engine
and driving conditions change, this ratio changes as well. Sometimes
it will run richer or leaner than the ideal 14.7:1.

The Reduction Catalyst:
The reduction catalyst is the first stage of the catalytic
converter. It uses platinum and rhodium to help reduce the NOx
emissions. When an NO or NO2 molecule contacts the catalyst, the
catalyst rips the nitrogen atom out of the molecule and holds on to
it, freeing the oxygen in the form of O2. The nitrogen atoms bond with
other nitrogen atoms that are also stuck to the catalyst, forming N2.

Oxidation Catalysts:
Palladium (Pd) and platinum (Pt) metals in very small amounts
convert the hydrocarbons of unburned gasoline and carbon monoxide to
carbon dioxide and water. This catalyst aids the reaction of the CO
and hydrocarbons with the remaining oxygen in the exhaust gas. But
where did this oxygen come from?

Copyright © 2001 - 2003 Vincent T. Ciulla All Rights Reserved



Catalytic Converters
The Control System:
The third stage is a control system that monitors the exhaust
stream, and uses this information to regulate the air/fuel mixture.
There is an oxygen sensor mounted in front of the catalytic converter,
meaning it is between the engine and the converter. The O2 sensor
tells the engine ECU how much oxygen is in the exhaust.

The ECU can increase or decrease the amount of oxygen in the exhaust
by adjusting the air/fuel mixture. In this way the ECU can make sure
that the engine is running as close to the stoichiometric point, and
also ensure there is enough oxygen in the exhaust to allow the
oxidization catalyst to burn the unburned hydrocarbons and CO.

The catalytic converter does an efficient job of reducing the vehicle
emissions, but there are ways it can be improved.


One of the biggest drawbacks is that it only works at a fairly high
temperature. When you start your car cold, the catalytic converter
does next to nothing to reduce the vehicle emissions.

The catalytic converter does an efficient job of reducing the
vehicle emissions, but there are ways it can be improved. One of the
biggest drawbacks is that it only works at a fairly high temperature.
When you start your car cold, the catalytic converter does next to
nothing to reduce the vehicle emissions.

The simplest solution is to move the catalytic converter closer to
the engine. This allows hot exhaust gases to get to the converter and
it heat it up faster. This could also reduce the life of the converter
by exposing it to extremely high temperatures. Most carmakers position
the converter under the front seats, just far enough from the engine
to keep the temperature at a level that will not damage it.

The simplest solution is to move the catalytic converter closer to the
engine. This allows hot exhaust gases to get to the converter and it
heat it up faster. This could also reduce the life of the converter by
exposing it to extremely high temperatures. Most carmakers position
the converter under the front seats, just far enough from the engine
to keep the temperature at a level that will not damage it.

Why do converters go bad?
There are two ways a converter can fail, it can become clogged or
it can be poisoned.

When catalytic converters fail they normally clog up with debris
and block the flow of exhaust gas from getting out of the system. This
will cause tremendous performance problems. In extreme cases it will
prevent the vehicle from starting at all. Most of the time it just
limits engine performance by choking the flow through the engine. So
how do you check a catalytic converter without removing it from the
car?? Sometimes an indication that a converter is clogged is that you
don't go any faster when you push the gas pedal down. In addition
there usually is a noticeable drop in fuel economy associated with a
clogged catalytic converter. A totally clogged converter will cause
the engine to die because of the increased backpressure.

There is no way for anyone to actually see a clog in a converter.
Usually the only way to tell if a catalytic converter is clogged is to
remove it and check the change in engine performance. When a mechanic
suspects a clogged converter they may remove the O2 sensor from the
exhaust pipe and see if there is a change in performance.

A catalytic converter relies on receiving the proper mix of exhaust
gases at the proper temperature. Some engine oil additives or engine
problems that cause the mixture or the temperature of the exhaust
gases to change reduce the effectiveness and life of the catalytic
converter. Leaded gasoline and the over-use of fuel additives can
shorten the life of a catalytic converter considerably. Even some
gasket sealers and cements can poison a converter.

A catalytic converter can also fail because of certain other
factors. A number of problems could occur to the catalytic converter
as the result of an engine that is out of tune. Any time an engine is
operating outside proper specifications, unnecessary wear and damage
may be caused to the catalytic converter as well as the engine itself.
The damage is often the result of an incorrect air/fuel mixture,
incorrect timing, or misfiring spark plugs. Any of these conditions
could lead to a catalytic converter failure or worse.


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Old 03-18-2005, 18:01   #2 (permalink)
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my old teach at the university of montana
sent me this
as u can see it is copywritten

lmfao

hurc ast

No he is not, and this is only his opinion which he is entitled too. He did not
send it to you cut and pasted off this guys web article. I've know of this
article for a long time, I do not agree. That is my opinion which I am entitled
too as well. Have you no bottoming out in your stupid level?

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/gener.../aa080401a.htm



<snip>


http://autorepair.about.com/mbiopage.htm
Vincent Ciulla has been a professional automotive technician for over 30 years
and is a certified master technician with experience in both domestic and
foreign cars and light trucks.

Experience: He has been a shop foreman in a BMW-Nissan-Volkswagen dealership
overseeing the training of the techs in that shop and providing help with any
special problems or diagnostics that develop. He has also been a lead technician
of a large Nissan-Porshe-Ferrari-Lotus dealership overseeing a team of
technicians and performing quality control on all serviced vehicles. He also has
many years of experience working on passenger car diesel engines.

Education: He has been factory-trained by Ford, General Motors and Chrysler, as
well as BMW, Nissan and Mercedes Benz. He has also attended hundreds of seminars
and clinics for everything from anti-freeze to Z-bars as well as new model
classes for every major make of automobile.

From Vince Ciulla: "Fixing your own car can be a fun and satisfying experience.
I will show you how to fix your car correctly and safely, and have fun doing it.
There's nothing like the feeling of doing a job well and having a person come
back and say, 'My car has never run this good, Thanks.' I want to help you get
that same feeling."


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Old 03-18-2005, 18:01   #3 (permalink)
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:13:15 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

>my old teach at the university of montana
>sent me this
> as u can see it is copywritten
>
>lmfao
>
>hurc ast
>
>No he is not, and this is only his opinion which he is entitled too. He did not
>send it to you cut and pasted off this guys web article. I've know of this
>article for a long time, I do not agree. That is my opinion which I am entitled
>too as well. Have you no bottoming out in your stupid level?


lmfao

ast = university of montana auto engineering dept
i said my old teacher sent me this
TARD
phone them
ask for randy paul

see if he works there


its ok picknose
U BEEN BEAT BY THE SEAL


bwhahahahahahaha

hurc ast
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Old 03-18-2005, 19:01   #4 (permalink)
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<3 dog nite@swatch.com> wrote in message
news:2r0n31lrrg55mtukuea4cie6o4c7la2n5t@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:13:15 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
>
>>my old teach at the university of montana
>>sent me this
>> as u can see it is copywritten
>>
>>lmfao
>>
>>hurc ast
>>
>>No he is not, and this is only his opinion which he is entitled too. He did
>>not
>>send it to you cut and pasted off this guys web article. I've know of this
>>article for a long time, I do not agree. That is my opinion which I am
>>entitled
>>too as well. Have you no bottoming out in your stupid level?

>
> lmfao
>
> ast = university of montana auto engineering dept
> i said my old teacher sent me this
> TARD
> phone them
> ask for randy paul
>
> see if he works there
>
>
> its ok picknose
> U BEEN BEAT BY THE SEAL
>
>
> bwhahahahahahaha
>
> hurc ast

Your old teacher did not send it to you. I'll believe that as soon as your buddy
Bin Laden converts to Judaism. Does a Randy Paul work at the school you
mentioned, maybe but so what, I doubt you keep in contact if you even went to
that school.

What is the minimum average temperature needed to form NOx?


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Old 03-18-2005, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
Some ga
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:47:21 GMT, 3 dog nite@swatch.com wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:13:15 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
>
>>my old teach at the university of montana
>>sent me this
>> as u can see it is copywritten
>>
>>lmfao
>>
>>hurc ast

><sinp>
>ast = university of montana auto engineering dept
>i said my old teacher sent me this
>TARD
>phone them ask for randy paul see if he works there
>
>its ok picknose
>U BEEN BEAT BY THE SEAL
>
>bwhahahahahahaha
>
>hurc ast



You're putting a lot of confidence in something that's riddled with
IF's and CAN's. "Add to that, this little gem of information from
the text you posted"

>And second, the carbon deposits clog the pores in the ceramic
> catalyst and block exhaust flow, increasing backpressure and
>causing heat and exhaust to back up into the engine compartment.
>Your engine may actually draw burnt exhaust gasses back into the
>combustion chamber and dilute the efficiency of the next burn cycle.


N0x.... Created in excess during high combustion temperatures.....
Reduced with the aid of the EGR by the...'reintroduction' of exhaust
gasses, cooling the subsequent combustion.

You do see where I'm going with this right?? ;-)

I'll totally ignore how a radiant form of energy "heat" is caused to
backup.

PS You're not helping the University of Montana's reputation. You do
realize this right?
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Old 03-18-2005, 20:01   #6 (permalink)
Some ga
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Re: picknose lets end it

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:13:09 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
><snip>
> I'll believe that as soon as your buddy Bin Laden converts to Judaism.
>


Well.... Christianity, Judaism & the Muslim Faith all worship the same
God, Christians regard Jesus as God, the other two only see him as a
prophet.... so it could be said that Bin Laden's already 1/2 way to
Judaism as it is ;-)
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Old 03-18-2005, 20:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Some ga" <someguy@address.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 21:13:09 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
>><snip>
>> I'll believe that as soon as your buddy Bin Laden converts to Judaism.
>>

>
> Well.... Christianity, Judaism & the Muslim Faith all worship the same
> God, Christians regard Jesus as God, the other two only see him as a
> prophet.... so it could be said that Bin Laden's already 1/2 way to
> Judaism as it is ;-)


Ya know, I think he has a Yamaka on his head and a cross around his neck, he
just takes them off for the videos.


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Old 03-18-2005, 20:01   #8 (permalink)
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"pick one" <try again!> wrote in message
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>
> <3 dog nite@swatch.com> wrote in message
> news:2r0n31lrrg55mtukuea4cie6o4c7la2n5t@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:13:15 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
>>
>>>my old teach at the university of montana
>>>sent me this
>>> as u can see it is copywritten
>>>
>>>lmfao
>>>
>>>hurc ast
>>>
>>>No he is not, and this is only his opinion which he is entitled too. He did
>>>not
>>>send it to you cut and pasted off this guys web article. I've know of this
>>>article for a long time, I do not agree. That is my opinion which I am
>>>entitled
>>>too as well. Have you no bottoming out in your stupid level?

>>
>> lmfao
>>
>> ast = university of montana auto engineering dept
>> i said my old teacher sent me this
>> TARD
>> phone them
>> ask for randy paul
>>
>> see if he works there
>>
>>
>> its ok picknose
>> U BEEN BEAT BY THE SEAL
>>
>>
>> bwhahahahahahaha
>>
>> hurc ast

> Your old teacher did not send it to you. I'll believe that as soon as your
> buddy Bin Laden converts to Judaism. Does a Randy Paul work at the school you
> mentioned, maybe but so what, I doubt you keep in contact if you even went to
> that school.
>
> What is the minimum average temperature needed to form NOx?
>

What's the matter "collage boy" don't like the direction the question will take
you? You have a clue where I'm going with that question? You had a lot to talk
about in regards to NOx last year in a diesel engine thread.


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Old 03-18-2005, 21:02   #9 (permalink)
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"pick one" <try again!> wrote in message
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>
> "pick one" <try again!> wrote in message
> news:W_WdnSWPqLoiF6bfRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>>
>> <3 dog nite@swatch.com> wrote in message
>> news:2r0n31lrrg55mtukuea4cie6o4c7la2n5t@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:13:15 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
>>>
>>>>my old teach at the university of montana
>>>>sent me this
>>>> as u can see it is copywritten
>>>>
>>>>lmfao
>>>>
>>>>hurc ast
>>>>
>>>>No he is not, and this is only his opinion which he is entitled too. He did
>>>>not
>>>>send it to you cut and pasted off this guys web article. I've know of this
>>>>article for a long time, I do not agree. That is my opinion which I am
>>>>entitled
>>>>too as well. Have you no bottoming out in your stupid level?
>>>
>>> lmfao
>>>
>>> ast = university of montana auto engineering dept
>>> i said my old teacher sent me this
>>> TARD
>>> phone them
>>> ask for randy paul
>>>
>>> see if he works there
>>>
>>>
>>> its ok picknose
>>> U BEEN BEAT BY THE SEAL
>>>
>>>
>>> bwhahahahahahaha
>>>
>>> hurc ast

>> Your old teacher did not send it to you. I'll believe that as soon as your
>> buddy Bin Laden converts to Judaism. Does a Randy Paul work at the school you
>> mentioned, maybe but so what, I doubt you keep in contact if you even went to
>> that school.
>>
>> What is the minimum average temperature needed to form NOx?
>>

> What's the matter "collage boy" don't like the direction the question will
> take you? You have a clue where I'm going with that question? You had a lot to
> talk about in regards to NOx last year in a diesel engine thread.
>

I know your doing a web search, then cutting and pasting the results and trying
to make it look like your old "teach" sent it to you. What temperature does NOx
form, you can say it in Celsius if you like I don't care, it's easy to convert.


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On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:07:34 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

>
>"pick one" <try again!> wrote in message
>news:k5SdndGRRsrnAKbfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>
>> "pick one" <try again!> wrote in message
>> news:W_WdnSWPqLoiF6bfRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> <3 dog nite@swatch.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2r0n31lrrg55mtukuea4cie6o4c7la2n5t@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:13:15 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>my old teach at the university of montana
>>>>>sent me this
>>>>> as u can see it is copywritten
>>>>>
>>>>>lmfao
>>>>>
>>>>>hurc ast
>>>>>
>>>>>No he is not, and this is only his opinion which he is entitled too. He did
>>>>>not
>>>>>send it to you cut and pasted off this guys web article. I've know of this
>>>>>article for a long time, I do not agree. That is my opinion which I am
>>>>>entitled
>>>>>too as well. Have you no bottoming out in your stupid level?
>>>>
>>>> lmfao
>>>>
>>>> ast = university of montana auto engineering dept
>>>> i said my old teacher sent me this
>>>> TARD
>>>> phone them
>>>> ask for randy paul
>>>>
>>>> see if he works there
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> its ok picknose
>>>> U BEEN BEAT BY THE SEAL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bwhahahahahahaha
>>>>
>>>> hurc ast
>>> Your old teacher did not send it to you. I'll believe that as soon as your
>>> buddy Bin Laden converts to Judaism. Does a Randy Paul work at the school you
>>> mentioned, maybe but so what, I doubt you keep in contact if you even went to
>>> that school.
>>>
>>> What is the minimum average temperature needed to form NOx?
>>>

>> What's the matter "collage boy" don't like the direction the question will
>> take you? You have a clue where I'm going with that question? You had a lot to
>> talk about in regards to NOx last year in a diesel engine thread.
>>

>I know your doing a web search, then cutting and pasting the results and trying
>to make it look like your old "teach" sent it to you. What temperature does NOx
>form, you can say it in Celsius if you like I don't care, it's easy to convert.
>


lmfao
bwhahahahaha
u been beaten by a CANADIAN

lmfao

hurc ast
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