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Old 12-20-2005, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
357B
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Rotors rusted to Hub

Anyone ever heard of a Ford or any other vehicle having the rotors rust onto
the hub so badly the only way to change them is to break them off?


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Old 12-20-2005, 08:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Rotors rusted to Hub

357B wrote:
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> Anyone ever heard of a Ford or any other vehicle having the rotors rust onto
> the hub so badly the only way to change them is to break them off?


Try a little PB Blaster first, THEN pick up the hammer.
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Old 12-20-2005, 09:01   #3 (permalink)
Frank from Deeeetroit
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Re: Rotors rusted to Hub

My daughter's 2001 Taurus had the rotors seized on the hubs. A BFH loosened
them.

I put some anti-seize compound on the spindles before installing the new
rotors.

Frank

"357B" <bubba357b@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone ever heard of a Ford or any other vehicle having the rotors rust
> onto the hub so badly the only way to change them is to break them off?
>



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Old 12-20-2005, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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357B wrote:
> Anyone ever heard of a Ford or any other vehicle having the rotors rust onto
> the hub so badly the only way to change them is to break them off?
>
>

Yep. Common in the rustbelt states. Some cars are worse than others. What are you
working on?
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
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"357B" <bubba357b@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone ever heard of a Ford or any other vehicle having the rotors
> rust onto the hub so badly the only way to change them is to break
> them off?
>

Very common.

If you want to save the rotors, install the lugnuts backwards, then rap
hard (not pound) between lugs, then take a 2x4 to protect surface and rap
the rotor face.

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you pay..DEAL with it!
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Old 12-20-2005, 13:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Rotors rusted to Hub

The dealer was working on the brakes for a 2001 Expedition. They supposedly
soaked the rotors in liquid wrench or similar. Apparently they had no choice
but to break the hubs to get them off. The cost was $85 per new rotor plus
labor.


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> Anyone ever heard of a Ford or any other vehicle having the rotors rust
> onto the hub so badly the only way to change them is to break them off?
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Old 12-20-2005, 14:01   #7 (permalink)
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The dealership doesn't have a 5 lb rubber mallet in their shop? Or torches
to heat it up a bit? Are you sure your vehicle is at the local Ford
dealership and not Speedy Muffler?

I'm sure there would have been some way to get them off without smashing the
front hubs of your car to hell. If they beat them off as hard as you're
explaining, you better hope they don't rob you for a set of front wheel
bearings, new flex lines and a set of calipers.

Sharky


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Old 12-20-2005, 22:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Rotors rusted to Hub

Sharky wrote:
> The dealership doesn't have a 5 lb rubber mallet in their shop? Or torches
> to heat it up a bit? Are you sure your vehicle is at the local Ford
> dealership and not Speedy Muffler?
>
> I'm sure there would have been some way to get them off without smashing the
> front hubs of your car to hell. If they beat them off as hard as you're
> explaining, you better hope they don't rob you for a set of front wheel
> bearings, new flex lines and a set of calipers.
>
> Sharky
>
>

Sharky,
On most cars I would agree with you. On the Expy, and F-150 I won't. When I was in
the dealership, we had F-150s and Expeditions that had rotors siezed to the hubs to
the point that the rotors and hubs were replaced under warranty for other concerns,
like a failed ABS wheel sensor. It seems that after about 1 year or so, those rotors
grab a death grip on the hub that the Almighty himself couldn't release. They would
look fairly rust free, but you couldn't get them off short of a sledge hammer(which
would, of course, damage the hub and bearing as would heat). The clearances when new
were pretty tight. After just a little bit of exposure to rust belt conditions, those
rotors ain't coming off. You could spend 1 hour with a LITTLE heat and a SMALL hammer
and MAYBE get them off, but by then the rotor was damaged enough that it needed
replaced anyway. For brake jobs, we usually machined those rotors on the vehicle,
which is the preferred method anyway. Aftermarket rotors for those trucks are about
$50 each. Replace 'em.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Rotors rusted to Hub

My experience with some of these is the same as Toms.... Mother nature has
her way of marrying some parts.

FWIW.... smack a brake rotor sideways with 5 pounds of anything and there's
a better than even chance that you now have a spendy lump of scrap metal.

After nearly 40 years of doing this, I have yet to see "everything"..... I
see you live in Canada... how about an all expense paid trip to Slave Lake,
Alberta.... all the best food and the bar will be open 24/7... however, if
you can't remove the rotors of my choice without destroying them. you pay
the tab.

Gawd, I wish my job was as easy as some think.....


"Sharky" <cleighton@NOSPAM.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> The dealership doesn't have a 5 lb rubber mallet in their shop? Or
> torches to heat it up a bit? Are you sure your vehicle is at the local
> Ford dealership and not Speedy Muffler?
>
> I'm sure there would have been some way to get them off without smashing
> the front hubs of your car to hell. If they beat them off as hard as
> you're explaining, you better hope they don't rob you for a set of front
> wheel bearings, new flex lines and a set of calipers.
>
> Sharky
>



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Old 12-21-2005, 03:01   #10 (permalink)
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hey Jim, I bet that the un nameable ast in cahnahdah could get them off with
only his bear hands, cause he's a forktart. ;)
"Jim Warman" <mechanic@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> My experience with some of these is the same as Toms.... Mother nature has
> her way of marrying some parts.
>
> FWIW.... smack a brake rotor sideways with 5 pounds of anything and

there's
> a better than even chance that you now have a spendy lump of scrap metal.
>
> After nearly 40 years of doing this, I have yet to see "everything"..... I
> see you live in Canada... how about an all expense paid trip to Slave

Lake,
> Alberta.... all the best food and the bar will be open 24/7... however, if
> you can't remove the rotors of my choice without destroying them. you pay
> the tab.
>
> Gawd, I wish my job was as easy as some think.....
>
>
> "Sharky" <cleighton@NOSPAM.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:8r_pf.9807$ic1.462@edtnps90...
> > The dealership doesn't have a 5 lb rubber mallet in their shop? Or
> > torches to heat it up a bit? Are you sure your vehicle is at the local
> > Ford dealership and not Speedy Muffler?
> >
> > I'm sure there would have been some way to get them off without smashing
> > the front hubs of your car to hell. If they beat them off as hard as
> > you're explaining, you better hope they don't rob you for a set of front
> > wheel bearings, new flex lines and a set of calipers.
> >
> > Sharky
> >

>
>



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