Re: swapping engines
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 14:35:17 -0500, "nyslide"
> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>>does anybody know if u can swap a 351 cleveland for 360 in a 70 ford f100
> Ditto what the others have said. When you are done and, if
> you use the truck for pulling or hauling, you will wish you
> had the 360 back. The far simpler and cheaper thing to do
> is replace the 360 with another of the FE family which are
> all pretty much bolt-ins with much better truck performance.
> One of the best in that family for a PU as a daily driver
> used for work is the 390. The 351C was never offered in a
> truck for good reason. The 351M was put into trucks
> beginning in 1974 or 75 IIRC but, it is not quite the same
> as a 351C and has a big block bell housing bolt pattern like
> the 360 FE engine. IIRC, it would still need different side
> mounts to install. Make sure you know what you are looking
> at when you deal with Ford engines.
Ditto on the 390, I never really cared for the 360. Although installing another FE
would be by far the best route, they are getting a little hard to come by these days.
I know from experience that a 351 Windsor with a C4 trans will bolt right into that
series of Ford pickups. I used 302 motor and trans mounts. No crossmember or
driveshaft changes were necessary. The motor and trans was complete with all of the
accessories, carb, etc. The only sticky part was the exhaust. I had to modify the
passenger car Y-pipe. This was possible because the truck was available with a 302/C4
which is very similar to the 351 Windsor.
With that said, I don't remember if the Cleveland and Windsor motors used the same
bolt pattern on the block for the motor mounts. IF they do, the combo should sit right
in there. IF the motor is complete air cleaner to oil pan AND has all of the
accessories AND 302 mounts will work, it might actually be a neat project.
Before you jump into a swap like this you need to do some homework, including an
attempt to locate another FE motor.