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Old 10-13-2005, 23:01   #1 (permalink)
RS
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Taurus 2002 SEL wagon and acetone in gasoline ... 14% increase

Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz. of
acetone per 10 gal. of gas.

Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from this
experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked said they
wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002 Taurus SEL
wagon.

It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution of
acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and plastic
components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody saying that had
happened to them ...

Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for comparison
purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last weekend, running
on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline, upon topping up my fuel
tank when I got back, I saw that I had achieved approx. 14% increase over
other typical highways trips I've documented.

Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole idea
in general ...

-RS-


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Old 10-14-2005, 00:01   #2 (permalink)
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"RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ukH3f.29681$ir4.27294@edtnps90...
> Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz. of
> acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
>
> Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from this
> experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked said they
> wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002 Taurus SEL
> wagon.
>
> It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution of
> acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and plastic
> components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody saying that
> had
> happened to them ...
>
> Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for comparison
> purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last weekend,
> running
> on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline, upon topping up my fuel
> tank when I got back, I saw that I had achieved approx. 14% increase
> over
> other typical highways trips I've documented.
>
> Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole idea
> in general ...
>
> -RS-


A ten percent increase is huge, and you got fourteen? That would require
so much more power to be generated by the same amount of fuel it is
highly improbable at the least.
I don't know where this started but I don't believe the increases
that are claimed.



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Old 10-14-2005, 04:01   #3 (permalink)
SC Tom
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Re: Taurus 2002 SEL wagon and acetone in gasoline ... 14% increase


"RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ukH3f.29681$ir4.27294@edtnps90...
> Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz. of
> acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
>
> Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from this
> experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked said they
> wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002 Taurus SEL
> wagon.
>
> It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution of
> acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and plastic
> components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody saying that
> had
> happened to them ...
>
> Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for comparison
> purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last weekend,
> running
> on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline, upon topping up my fuel
> tank when I got back, I saw that I had achieved approx. 14% increase
> over
> other typical highways trips I've documented.
>
> Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole idea
> in general ...
>
> -RS-
>
>

I don't think one trip with the acetone is enough to base any stats on. I
can get 15% better or worse mileage just by changing fuel brands (23 vs.
27MPG on a 600 mile trip. The 23MPG was from running 83 octane Enmark gas,
and the 27 was from 83 octane Amoco.). I would think a 6-12 month log with
varying trip distances, weather conditions, brand and grade of gas, etc.,
would make for a better judge of whether or not the stuff works as claimed.

SC Tom


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Old 10-14-2005, 06:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Taurus 2002 SEL wagon and acetone in gasoline ... 14% increase

If you did the exhaustive research as claimed, you know the results of
one trip mean nothing.

And that is stated by the proponent, himself.

In fact, I would suspect the direction your car was pointed while topping
off made most of the difference.

After at least ten tanks, then let us know.



"RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in
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> Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz.
> of acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
>
> Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from
> this experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked
> said they wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002
> Taurus SEL wagon.
>
> It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution
> of acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and
> plastic components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody
> saying that had happened to them ...
>
> Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for
> comparison purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last
> weekend, running on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline,
> upon topping up my fuel tank when I got back, I saw that I had
> achieved approx. 14% increase over other typical highways trips I've
> documented.
>
> Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole
> idea in general ...
>
> -RS-
>
>


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Old 10-14-2005, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Taurus 2002 SEL wagon and acetone in gasoline ... 14% increase

Group: alt.autos.ford Date: Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 6:15am From: SC@Tom.com
(SCáTom)


I don't think one trip with the acetone is enough to base any stats on.
I can get 15% better or worse mileage just by changing fuel brands (23
vs. 27MPG on a 600 mile trip. The 23MPG was from running 83 octane
Enmark gas, and the 27 was from 83 octane Amoco.)<<<<<<<<<<<<

83 octane? or 87 octane?


Eric

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Old 10-14-2005, 09:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Taurus 2002 SEL wagon and acetone in gasoline ... 14% increase

I agree that one tank does not make any statistical argument. I posted
because I was kind of excited by the first results. I will keep an eye on my
milage over the next few fillings ... well i do that anyway ... I will let
the group know how it's coming along ...

If anyone wants to see my Excel spreadsheet so far, just email me ...
(remove "X" s)

-RS-

"Backyard Mechanic" <pettyfog@yaywho.com> wrote in message
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> If you did the exhaustive research as claimed, you know the results of
> one trip mean nothing.
>
> And that is stated by the proponent, himself.
>
> In fact, I would suspect the direction your car was pointed while topping
> off made most of the difference.
>
> After at least ten tanks, then let us know.
>
>
>
> "RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in
> news:ukH3f.29681$ir4.27294@edtnps90:
>
> > Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz.
> > of acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
> >
> > Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from
> > this experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked
> > said they wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002
> > Taurus SEL wagon.
> >
> > It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution
> > of acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and
> > plastic components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody
> > saying that had happened to them ...
> >
> > Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for
> > comparison purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last
> > weekend, running on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline,
> > upon topping up my fuel tank when I got back, I saw that I had
> > achieved approx. 14% increase over other typical highways trips I've
> > documented.
> >
> > Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole
> > idea in general ...
> >
> > -RS-
> >
> >

>



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Old 10-14-2005, 10:01   #7 (permalink)
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"RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ukH3f.29681$ir4.27294@edtnps90...
> Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz. of
> acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
>
> Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from this
> experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked said they
> wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002 Taurus SEL
> wagon.
>
> It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution of
> acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and plastic
> components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody saying that
> had
> happened to them ...
>
> Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for comparison
> purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last weekend,
> running
> on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline, upon topping up my fuel
> tank when I got back, I saw that I had achieved approx. 14% increase
> over
> other typical highways trips I've documented.
>
> Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole idea
> in general ...
>
> -RS-

I tried it too. (3 oz in 15 gal) I got slightly worse mileage with it. My
feeling is this: It didn't do anything, bad or good. Just for the heck of it
I put 4 oz. in 15 gallons this tank. If there is no real noticeable
improvement this tank I feel it isn't worth messing with...Just for the
record, I bet you would get the same results by putting 3 oz of urine in
your tankfull. Havent tried that yet...maybe next time I'm drinkin.. :)


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Old 10-14-2005, 12:01   #8 (permalink)
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You started off with the equiv. of 2 oz. per 10 gallons. If you google the
topic you will find some graphs showing how fuel usage actually can increase
with overdosing. Why not start of with the equiv. of 1 oz. per 10 gallons
.... which is the low end of the suggestted range (1~3 oz. per 10 gallons.)

-RS-

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>
> "RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ukH3f.29681$ir4.27294@edtnps90...
>> Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz. of
>> acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
>>
>> Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from this
>> experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked said they
>> wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002 Taurus SEL
>> wagon.
>>
>> It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution of
>> acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and
>> plastic
>> components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody saying that
>> had
>> happened to them ...
>>
>> Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for comparison
>> purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last weekend,
>> running
>> on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline, upon topping up my
>> fuel
>> tank when I got back, I saw that I had achieved approx. 14% increase
>> over
>> other typical highways trips I've documented.
>>
>> Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole
>> idea
>> in general ...
>>
>> -RS-

> I tried it too. (3 oz in 15 gal) I got slightly worse mileage with it. My
> feeling is this: It didn't do anything, bad or good. Just for the heck of
> it I put 4 oz. in 15 gallons this tank. If there is no real noticeable
> improvement this tank I feel it isn't worth messing with...Just for the
> record, I bet you would get the same results by putting 3 oz of urine in
> your tankfull. Havent tried that yet...maybe next time I'm drinkin.. :)
>



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Old 10-14-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
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"-RBS-" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You started off with the equiv. of 2 oz. per 10 gallons. If you google
> the topic you will find some graphs showing how fuel usage actually can
> increase with overdosing. Why not start of with the equiv. of 1 oz. per
> 10 gallons ... which is the low end of the suggestted range (1~3 oz. per
> 10 gallons.)
>
> -RS-
>

Maybe I will try that next tank. I've got lots of acetone to play with...
When I put that tiny amount in I really don't worry about it hurting
anything. It seems like a drop in the bucket.

> "Shoe Salesman" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EyQ3f.541$Jo3.524@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>
>> "RS" <jf_reneX@Xhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ukH3f.29681$ir4.27294@edtnps90...
>>> Last week I just became aware of the "buzz" on the net about 1~3 oz. of
>>> acetone per 10 gal. of gas.
>>>
>>> Because my Google searches did not show any documented damage from this
>>> experiment (just lots of fears ... 2 mechanic friends I asked said they
>>> wouldn't try it) ... anyway I decided to try it in my 2002 Taurus SEL
>>> wagon.
>>>
>>> It didn't make intuitive sense to me that a 1/640 or 1/1280 dilution of
>>> acetone would present much in the way of attacking the rubber and
>>> plastic
>>> components ... I had not come across any posting by anybody saying that
>>> had
>>> happened to them ...
>>>
>>> Anyway, I have a running fuel log for the past few months for comparison
>>> purposes. Based on my highway trip (approx. 400 km.) last weekend,
>>> running
>>> on approx. 1 1/4 oz. acetone per 10 gal. gasoline, upon topping up my
>>> fuel
>>> tank when I got back, I saw that I had achieved approx. 14% increase
>>> over
>>> other typical highways trips I've documented.
>>>
>>> Just wondered what others here think of my findings ... and the whole
>>> idea
>>> in general ...
>>>
>>> -RS-

>> I tried it too. (3 oz in 15 gal) I got slightly worse mileage with it.
>> My feeling is this: It didn't do anything, bad or good. Just for the heck
>> of it I put 4 oz. in 15 gallons this tank. If there is no real noticeable
>> improvement this tank I feel it isn't worth messing with...Just for the
>> record, I bet you would get the same results by putting 3 oz of urine in
>> your tankfull. Havent tried that yet...maybe next time I'm drinkin.. :)
>>

>
>



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Old 10-14-2005, 14:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Taurus 2002 SEL wagon and acetone in gasoline ... 14% increase

Group: alt.autos.ford Date: Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 6:15am From: SC@Tom.com
(SC Tom)


I don't think one trip with the acetone is enough to base any stats on.
I can get 15% better or worse mileage just by changing fuel brands (23
vs. 27MPG on a 600 mile trip. The 23MPG was from running 83 octane
Enmark gas, and the 27 was from 83 octane Amoco.)<<<<<<<<<<<<

83 octane? or 87 octane?


Eric

83 as stated.


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