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Old 12-15-2005, 07:01   #1 (permalink)
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Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

it's something I've just kind of wondered about for a very long time..
nearly a decade ago, I worked at a gas station.. we had no antifreeze, but
lotsa washer fluid!
one day a guy strolls in from a truck aparently overheating in the street..
wanting 2 gal of washer fluid.. to pour in his radiator.
I thought it was nuts, but I suppose he was in a pinch.. but I always
wondered, would it really hurt anything?


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Old 12-15-2005, 07:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

In article <nPeof.190943$tD4.2176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
betterask4it@ifyouwantit.com says...
> it's something I've just kind of wondered about for a very long time..
> nearly a decade ago, I worked at a gas station.. we had no antifreeze, but
> lotsa washer fluid!
> one day a guy strolls in from a truck aparently overheating in the street..
> wanting 2 gal of washer fluid.. to pour in his radiator.
> I thought it was nuts, but I suppose he was in a pinch.. but I always
> wondered, would it really hurt anything?


Washer fluid contains detergent, which will tend to foam a lot.
Long term use would be a bad idea, as it would tend to dissolve
internal metal in the engine. Probably will not conduct heat
quite as well as glycol solution, and does not have the corrosion
inhibitors common to modern antifreeze formulations. But in an
emergency, just about any liquid with similar viscosity will work.

Used to be a farmer nearby had an old Farmall tractor with a cracked
cylinder that he didn't want to spend any money on, so he put diesel
fuel in for coolant. Didn't use it for heavy pulling, just putting
around the farmyard moving wagons, scaping manure, etc. He used to
joke that if it caught on fire he'd just drive it away from the
buildings and let it burn. Worked fine for years.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

Alcohol is what they used to use before the 50's. It needed to be
checked and replenished regularly and inhibitors were added. I remember
it as blue too just like the washer fluid. You could do the same thing
today in a pinch.
PS> I don't think there is much detergent in the fluid. I can shake up
a container here like crazy and there is no foam produced whatsoever.
Rubber parts in the washer pump and lines are not damaged by it either.
Corrosion from lack of inhibitors would be the main concern and damage
with todays engines would happen soon.

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Old 12-15-2005, 10:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

In article <1134658060.394646.16640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
MSfortune@mcpmail.com says...
> Alcohol is what they used to use before the 50's. It needed to be
> checked and replenished regularly and inhibitors were added. I remember
> it as blue too just like the washer fluid. You could do the same thing
> today in a pinch.
> PS> I don't think there is much detergent in the fluid. I can shake up
> a container here like crazy and there is no foam produced whatsoever.
> Rubber parts in the washer pump and lines are not damaged by it either.
> Corrosion from lack of inhibitors would be the main concern and damage
> with todays engines would happen soon.
>
>

Then I must be doing something wrong. I use cheap washer fluids such as
20/20 and it foams so much when adding it to the reservoir I can't see
the fluid level while it's being poured.
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Old 12-15-2005, 15:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

In deed you may be getting cheap fluid. Detergent on your window is not
the greatest thing to have either. Ever spray soapy water or blow
bubbles as a kid? Think what that would look like when it atomized out
of your washer nozzle. Yet it comes out as a firm spray with no
bubbles. Guess why?

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Old 12-15-2005, 19:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?


"Dark1" <betterask4it@ifyouwantit.com> wrote in message
news:nPeof.190943$tD4.2176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> it's something I've just kind of wondered about for a very long time..
> nearly a decade ago, I worked at a gas station.. we had no antifreeze, but
> lotsa washer fluid!
> one day a guy strolls in from a truck aparently overheating in the
> street.. wanting 2 gal of washer fluid.. to pour in his radiator.
> I thought it was nuts, but I suppose he was in a pinch.. but I always
> wondered, would it really hurt anything?

I bet he just dumped it out and used the containers for water....thats what
I would have done.


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Old 12-15-2005, 19:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

A good friend of mine bought an '89 Cougar - one of the first with 22"
wipers. It was in the dealer for all sorts of work to keep the wipers from
chattering so much they wouldn't wipe. I think almost every part was
replaced 2-3 times. Finally the shop foreman pulled my friend aside and
suggested he add a few drops of Dawn dishwashing liquid to the wash fluid.
As soon as it worked thru the lines the chatter stopped. One good squirt
was really all it took and even worked in heavy rain. No bubbles, tho...

PoD


"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134687099.654885.65450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> In deed you may be getting cheap fluid. Detergent on your window is not
> the greatest thing to have either. Ever spray soapy water or blow
> bubbles as a kid? Think what that would look like when it atomized out
> of your washer nozzle. Yet it comes out as a firm spray with no
> bubbles. Guess why?
>



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Old 12-15-2005, 19:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

Washer fluid is flammable when heated to engine temps.

Frank.



"Dark1" <betterask4it@ifyouwantit.com> wrote in message
news:nPeof.190943$tD4.2176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> it's something I've just kind of wondered about for a very long time..
> nearly a decade ago, I worked at a gas station.. we had no antifreeze, but
> lotsa washer fluid!
> one day a guy strolls in from a truck aparently overheating in the
> street.. wanting 2 gal of washer fluid.. to pour in his radiator.
> I thought it was nuts, but I suppose he was in a pinch.. but I always
> wondered, would it really hurt anything?
>



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Old 12-15-2005, 19:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:03:19 GMT, "Shoe Salesman"
<someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>"Dark1" <betterask4it@ifyouwantit.com> wrote in message
>news:nPeof.190943$tD4.2176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> it's something I've just kind of wondered about for a very long time..
>> nearly a decade ago, I worked at a gas station.. we had no antifreeze, but
>> lotsa washer fluid!
>> one day a guy strolls in from a truck aparently overheating in the
>> street.. wanting 2 gal of washer fluid.. to pour in his radiator.
>> I thought it was nuts, but I suppose he was in a pinch.. but I always
>> wondered, would it really hurt anything?

>I bet he just dumped it out and used the containers for water....thats what
>I would have done.
>

Alcohol was used as antifreeze for MANY years - prior to "permanent
antifreeze"
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Old 12-15-2005, 19:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Washer fluid as coolant? implications?

Windshield washer fluid has a flash-point in the area of 100-140 degrees F.
Anti-freeze has a flash point that is over 225 degrees F. The flame from
washer fluid is almost invisible in daylight.

Frank


"Frank from Deeeetroit" <dadurweird@voyager.net> wrote in message
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> Washer fluid is flammable when heated to engine temps.
>
> Frank.
>
>
>
> "Dark1" <betterask4it@ifyouwantit.com> wrote in message
> news:nPeof.190943$tD4.2176@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> it's something I've just kind of wondered about for a very long time..
>> nearly a decade ago, I worked at a gas station.. we had no antifreeze,
>> but lotsa washer fluid!
>> one day a guy strolls in from a truck aparently overheating in the
>> street.. wanting 2 gal of washer fluid.. to pour in his radiator.
>> I thought it was nuts, but I suppose he was in a pinch.. but I always
>> wondered, would it really hurt anything?
>>

>
>



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