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Old 11-06-2005, 10:01   #1 (permalink)
MUSTANGBRIT
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WILL NOT START

IF I REMOVE THE BATTERY TERMINAL AND THEN PUT IT BACK ON AFTER A COUPLE
SECOUNDS THE CAR WILL START SEVERAL TIMES AND THEN I HAVE TO REMOVE IT
AGAIN WHAT COULD BE WRONG I HAVE A 1995 MUSTANG 3.8

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Old 11-06-2005, 11:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: WILL NOT START

"MUSTANGBRIT" <bastprint03@aol.com> wrote:

> IF I REMOVE THE BATTERY TERMINAL AND THEN PUT IT BACK ON AFTER A COUPLE
> SECOUNDS THE CAR WILL START SEVERAL TIMES AND THEN I HAVE TO REMOVE IT
> AGAIN WHAT COULD BE WRONG I HAVE A 1995 MUSTANG 3.8
>
>


1. please turn off caps lock.. all lower case is fine

2. Sounds like a sensor problem.. is the check engine lite lit? if CEL
lit, take it to a parts store that reads out the codes.. (you dont say
where you are located.)

3. Does the fuel pump run when you switch ign on?

4. If CEL not lit, try the following routine once car wont start

a. does tach bounce a little while cranking? If not, some ignition
problem

b. FIRST (once car is in no-start paradigm) floor the accelerator pedal
while cranking... if still wont start, PUMP accel while cranking.

- the first delivers less gas than normal, the second delivers more gas
than normal.

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Old 11-06-2005, 12:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: WILL NOT START

"paradigm"????? Oooooh, I love it when you talk sexy...

Too bad there's so much info we have to assume..... the car will start
several times after the disconnect but we don't know how well. it runs, nor
do we know if he can actually drive it. A little history might be nice too.
First thing that comes to mind is that disconnecting the battery clears the
KAM... but it's hard to say that adaptive strategy could cause a no start.

I recall something about older Dodges having some sort of concern where
disconnecting the SMEC or SBEC would let them start... but I don't have to
tell you what a few years can do to the ..... ummm, what was I saying??

What I am seeing more of is when people start snooping around, they are
disturbing wire harneses... sadly, I can say that I have "fixed" cars simply
during normal testing,,, unable to recreate the original concern after doing
that. These are ones that we KNOW will be back and the customer is usually a
little irate about the return visit. It sucks to be me.....

FWIW, I spent last week at Ford school in Edmonton.... now that I have my
Master certification, can I be as big a dick as <expletive deleted>?


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Old 11-06-2005, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: WILL NOT START

"Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:

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> FWIW, I spent last week at Ford school in Edmonton.... now that I have my
> Master certification, can I be as big a dick as <expletive deleted>?


Heh.. but doesnt it ALSO mean you are infinitely smarter?

Iknow everytime I passed a cert in my field of IT, or the Refrigerant Cert,
I felt like my brain was exploding...

;P

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Old 11-06-2005, 13:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: WILL NOT START

"Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:

> First thing that comes to mind is that disconnecting the battery
> clears the KAM... but it's hard to say that adaptive strategy could
> cause a no start.
>
> I recall something about older Dodges having some sort of concern
> where disconnecting the SMEC or SBEC would let them start... but I
> don't have to tell you what a few years can do to the ..... ummm, what
> was I saying??
>
>


Here's what I'm thinking about that... there's a memory problem. (Heh..
on topic werent you) that doesnt show until it builds adaptive strategy.
Then the Checksum doesnt match.. so it goes into fail mode.

Would think the CEL would flash or something when that occurs.

SO MustangBRIT, try the stuff in my orig post... and ALSO tell us if it
has driveability / running problems as Jim suggests.





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Old 11-06-2005, 13:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: WILL NOT START

FWIW, I spent last week at Ford school in Edmonton.... now that I have my
Master certification, can I be as big a dick as <expletive deleted>?


sorry jim. that aint never gonna happen, no matter how much skoolin you
gots


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Old 11-13-2005, 07:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: WILL NOT START

hay thank for the sugg 1.the fuel pump runs. check eng lite does not come
on. i tryed replacing the comp not the problem tryed rep the starter relay
not the problem replaced coil pack also cam posi sensor not the problem

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