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Old 09-05-2005, 12:01   #1 (permalink)
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1996 Explorer Transmission problem

I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the transmission
pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 - 50 mph the
transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the shift it
feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini speed
bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump feeling
and transmission leak the truck is running great.

Does this sound familar to anyone?

I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that explorer
transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles. He said
they had the nickname of "Exploder".

Any suggestions??

Thanks,
Craig

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Old 09-05-2005, 14:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

On 5 Sep 2005 14:43:55 -0400, cparsons <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
wrote:

>I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the transmission
>pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 - 50 mph the
>transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the shift it
>feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini speed
>bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump feeling
>and transmission leak the truck is running great.
>
>Does this sound familar to anyone?
>
>I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that explorer
>transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles. He said
>they had the nickname of "Exploder".
>
>Any suggestions??
>
>Thanks,
>Craig



I'd go to a different transmission place and have the fluid and filter
changed. While they have the pan off they can look for broken parts
in the bottom.
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Old 09-05-2005, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

"" wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2005 14:43:55 -0400, cparsons
> <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the

> transmission
> >pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 -

> 50 mph the
> >transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the

> shift it
> >feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini

> speed
> >bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump

> feeling
> >and transmission leak the truck is running great.
> >
> >Does this sound familar to anyone?
> >
> >I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that

> explorer
> >transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles.

> He said
> >they had the nickname of "Exploder".
> >
> >Any suggestions??
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Craig

>
>
> I'd go to a different transmission place and have the fluid
> and filter
> changed. While they have the pan off they can look for broken
> parts
> in the bottom.


Thanks,

I plan on taking my Explorer to Aamco to do exactly what you
suggested.

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Old 09-05-2005, 18:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

On 5 Sep 2005 18:41:44 -0400, cparsons <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
wrote:

>"" wrote:
> > On 5 Sep 2005 14:43:55 -0400, cparsons
> > <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the

> > transmission
> > >pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 -

> > 50 mph the
> > >transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the

> > shift it
> > >feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini

> > speed
> > >bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump

> > feeling
> > >and transmission leak the truck is running great.
> > >
> > >Does this sound familar to anyone?
> > >
> > >I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that

> > explorer
> > >transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles.

> > He said
> > >they had the nickname of "Exploder".
> > >
> > >Any suggestions??
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Craig

> >
> >
> > I'd go to a different transmission place and have the fluid
> > and filter
> > changed. While they have the pan off they can look for broken
> > parts
> > in the bottom.

>
>Thanks,
>
>I plan on taking my Explorer to Aamco to do exactly what you
>suggested.


Dear God NO!!!! NEVER go to AAMCO unless there are simply no other
choices. There might be an honest one somewhere but you are rolling
the dice. They will try to get you to let them "diagnose" it for you.
By the time they are done you'll have a basketful of parts with a
choice of "We can rebuild it for you for $3000 or we can give you this
basketful of parts and you can get it towed out of here."
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Old 09-06-2005, 22:01   #5 (permalink)
Fred 2
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

Sounds like torque converter shudder, this is mostly due to old worn
out fluid. Did you own this car since brand new? With that mileage the
tranny fluid should have been changed at least 3 times.

Change the fluid, filter, and use the factory type gasket (no cork
replacement. Also, the V8 tranny has a separate torque converter drain
plug. so make sure you drain the torque converter, some fuid drains
when you drop the pan, but most of the fluid is in the torque
converter.

On 5 Sep 2005 14:43:55 -0400, cparsons <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
wrote:

>I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the transmission
>pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 - 50 mph the
>transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the shift it
>feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini speed
>bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump feeling
>and transmission leak the truck is running great.
>
>Does this sound familar to anyone?
>
>I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that explorer
>transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles. He said
>they had the nickname of "Exploder".
>
>Any suggestions??
>
>Thanks,
>Craig

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Old 09-06-2005, 22:01   #6 (permalink)
Fred 2
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

Forgot to mention the 4R70W tranny used with Explorer V8 is actually
pretty durable especially if you maintain it properly. More durable
than the tranny used with the V6

http://www.baumannengineering.com/aodefund.htm



On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 03:53:02 GMT, Fred 2 <Fred_2@anon.com> wrote:

>Sounds like torque converter shudder, this is mostly due to old worn
>out fluid. Did you own this car since brand new? With that mileage the
>tranny fluid should have been changed at least 3 times.
>
>Change the fluid, filter, and use the factory type gasket (no cork
>replacement. Also, the V8 tranny has a separate torque converter drain
>plug. so make sure you drain the torque converter, some fuid drains
>when you drop the pan, but most of the fluid is in the torque
>converter.
>
>On 5 Sep 2005 14:43:55 -0400, cparsons <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the transmission
>>pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 - 50 mph the
>>transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the shift it
>>feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini speed
>>bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump feeling
>>and transmission leak the truck is running great.
>>
>>Does this sound familar to anyone?
>>
>>I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that explorer
>>transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles. He said
>>they had the nickname of "Exploder".
>>
>>Any suggestions??
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Craig

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Old 09-07-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem


Ashton Crusher wrote:
>
> Dear God NO!!!! NEVER go to AAMCO unless there are simply no other
> choices. There might be an honest one somewhere but you are rolling
> the dice. They will try to get you to let them "diagnose" it for you.
> By the time they are done you'll have a basketful of parts with a
> choice of "We can rebuild it for you for $3000 or we can give you this
> basketful of parts and you can get it towed out of here."


I once worked with a guy who had previously worked for AAMCO. He
bragged about the scams, and how they recognized inspectors sent to
catch them in the act. That was a long time ago, and of course there
are many AAMCO's, but it stuck in my mind.

Best bet is to ask friends about their experiences, find a shop that
people agree did a good job for them. A sharp tech can make a heck of a
difference.
-Paul

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Old 09-07-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

The automatic transmission on my '92 blew a seal and I decided to have
it repaired by a Ford dealer that I have had good experience with. I
pass several other dealerships going from my house to their shop, but
feel it's worth the trip to deal with them (Ciener-Woods Ford in
Kernersville, NC). Repair job was fine, it was still running when I
sold it. It's hard to trust anyone about car service and repairs, but
I just don't have confidence in any of these chain repair shops and
would rather take my chances with the dealer.

On 7 Sep 2005 08:05:16 -0700, carbide@egine.com wrote:

>
>Ashton Crusher wrote:
>>
>> Dear God NO!!!! NEVER go to AAMCO unless there are simply no other
>> choices. There might be an honest one somewhere but you are rolling
>> the dice. They will try to get you to let them "diagnose" it for you.
>> By the time they are done you'll have a basketful of parts with a
>> choice of "We can rebuild it for you for $3000 or we can give you this
>> basketful of parts and you can get it towed out of here."

>
>I once worked with a guy who had previously worked for AAMCO. He
>bragged about the scams, and how they recognized inspectors sent to
>catch them in the act. That was a long time ago, and of course there
>are many AAMCO's, but it stuck in my mind.
>
>Best bet is to ask friends about their experiences, find a shop that
>people agree did a good job for them. A sharp tech can make a heck of a
>difference.
>-Paul

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Old 09-07-2005, 18:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem

"" wrote:
> Sounds like torque converter shudder, this is mostly due to
> old worn
> out fluid. Did you own this car since brand new? With that
> mileage the
> tranny fluid should have been changed at least 3 times.
>
> Change the fluid, filter, and use the factory type gasket (no
> cork
> replacement. Also, the V8 tranny has a separate torque
> converter drain
> plug. so make sure you drain the torque converter, some fuid
> drains
> when you drop the pan, but most of the fluid is in the torque
> converter.
>
> On 5 Sep 2005 14:43:55 -0400, cparsons
> <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have an automatic 96 explorer V8 with a leak around the

> transmission
> >pan, it has 101,000 miles. Also when I am doing about 45 -

> 50 mph the
> >transmission shifts into overdrive, occasionally during the

> shift it
> >feels as if I am going over mini speed bumps. The "mini

> speed
> >bumps" lasts less than a second. Other than the speed bump

> feeling
> >and transmission leak the truck is running great.
> >
> >Does this sound familar to anyone?
> >
> >I took my truck to a transmission place and they told me that

> explorer
> >transmissions were known to malfunction after 100,000 miles.

> He said
> >they had the nickname of "Exploder".
> >
> >Any suggestions??
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Craig


It was a torque converter shudder. I had the fluid replaced 15,000
to 20,000 miles ago but I am not 100% sure if the correct transmission
fluid was used. The tech said that the Merc5 (spelling?) Trans fluid
has a distinct smell to it and the fluid in my truck didnít have that
smell.

Any way they said it sounded pretty bad but fortunately pieces from
the clutch havenít gotten into the transmission yet. So the
transmission was still OK.

$809 later I have a new rebuilt torque converter among a few other
necessary items.

At least it is fixed.

Thanks for your help.

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Old 09-07-2005, 19:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: 1996 Explorer Transmission problem


For a '96 V8 tranny regular Mercon is fine, Ford Mercon V was
initially for use beginning with the '97 model year.

I have use regular Mercon in my '96 V8 tranny since brand new. It has
125,000 plus miles and no problems The fluid has been changed about
3-4 times since new.

On 7 Sep 2005 20:43:19 -0400, cparsons <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com>
wrote:


>
>It was a torque converter shudder. I had the fluid replaced 15,000
>to 20,000 miles ago but I am not 100% sure if the correct transmission
>fluid was used. The tech said that the Merc5 (spelling?) Trans fluid
>has a distinct smell to it and the fluid in my truck didnít have that
>smell.
>
>Any way they said it sounded pretty bad but fortunately pieces from
>the clutch havenít gotten into the transmission yet. So the
>transmission was still OK.
>
>$809 later I have a new rebuilt torque converter among a few other
>necessary items.
>
>At least it is fixed.
>
>Thanks for your help.

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