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Old 07-24-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
Alan E. Seelbach
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Factory oil filters

Got a question: I've purchased 4 new Explorers (2 in 2002, and 2 in 2005)
and each time getting the factory oil filter off has been a fight. I have a
oil ratchet(?) tool that fits the FL-820S perfectly, but slips on the
factory installed filters. The factory installed oil filters also have no
markings upon removal...which usually takes about a half hour and many
chewed up knuckles.

Has anyone else had this experience with the factory filters?

Al S.
Poughkeepsie, NY


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Old 07-24-2005, 10:02   #2 (permalink)
Steven Hilgendorf
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Re: Factory oil filters

Alan E. Seelbach wrote:
> Got a question: I've purchased 4 new Explorers (2 in 2002, and 2 in 2005)
> and each time getting the factory oil filter off has been a fight. I have a
> oil ratchet(?) tool that fits the FL-820S perfectly, but slips on the
> factory installed filters. The factory installed oil filters also have no
> markings upon removal...which usually takes about a half hour and many
> chewed up knuckles.
>
> Has anyone else had this experience with the factory filters?
>
> Al S.
> Poughkeepsie, NY
>
>


Do you smear a small film of oil on the filters neoprene gasket during
installation? If not, try it next time, as it helps create a good seal
and aids in disassembly. When I do my own oil changes I also pre-charge
the filter with oil, at which time I run a film around the gasket with
my finger. Most skip this step these days, but It's something an old
timer taught me and I've always done it this way.

In addition, you should only hand tighten the filter. No fancy
filter-wrenches needed...

Good luck,

Steven
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:02   #3 (permalink)
Alan E. Seelbach
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Re: Factory oil filters


"Steven Hilgendorf" <stevenmhPLEASE@REMOVEwi.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> Do you smear a small film of oil on the filters neoprene gasket during
> installation? If not, try it next time, as it helps create a good seal
> and aids in disassembly. When I do my own oil changes I also pre-charge
> the filter with oil, at which time I run a film around the gasket with my
> finger. Most skip this step these days, but It's something an old timer
> taught me and I've always done it this way.
>
> In addition, you should only hand tighten the filter. No fancy
> filter-wrenches needed...
>
> Good luck,
>
> Steven


Yup, I do all the things you mention except pre-charge..but my question is
about oil filters that were installed in the factory...it seems that they
are slightly smaller in diameter than the FL-820S and most likely torqued
on.

Al S.


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Old 07-24-2005, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
Jim Warman
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Re: Factory oil filters

All the factory filters I have removed (and that is a LARGE number) have
been extremely tight - the guy putting them on must have arms like Popeye.
For these, I use a strap wrench like this
http://www.bennetts.com/tools/vehicl...ontentId=23854 along with a
1/2 drive ratchet and a suitable extension.


"Alan E. Seelbach" <alseelbach@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Got a question: I've purchased 4 new Explorers (2 in 2002, and 2 in 2005)
> and each time getting the factory oil filter off has been a fight. I have

a
> oil ratchet(?) tool that fits the FL-820S perfectly, but slips on the
> factory installed filters. The factory installed oil filters also have no
> markings upon removal...which usually takes about a half hour and many
> chewed up knuckles.
>
> Has anyone else had this experience with the factory filters?
>
> Al S.
> Poughkeepsie, NY
>
>



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Old 07-24-2005, 16:01   #5 (permalink)
Ron B.
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Re: Factory oil filters

Use the same wrench that fits the FL1A, Auto Zone or any good parts
house has them, less than $5.00 for a good one.

Alan E. Seelbach wrote:
> Got a question: I've purchased 4 new Explorers (2 in 2002, and 2 in 2005)
> and each time getting the factory oil filter off has been a fight. I have a
> oil ratchet(?) tool that fits the FL-820S perfectly, but slips on the
> factory installed filters. The factory installed oil filters also have no
> markings upon removal...which usually takes about a half hour and many
> chewed up knuckles.
>
> Has anyone else had this experience with the factory filters?
>
> Al S.
> Poughkeepsie, NY
>
>

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Old 07-24-2005, 21:01   #6 (permalink)
wth
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Re: Factory oil filters

As for changing the filter, apply a small amt of oil on the gasket, and hand
tighten only. Like I said, "hand" meaning one hand not both when you put
that new one on. It won't fall off and you will not need any tools to remove
it.
wth

"Alan E. Seelbach" <alseelbach@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:VAOEe.4362$Qy1.3163@fe09.lga...
> Got a question: I've purchased 4 new Explorers (2 in 2002, and 2 in 2005)
> and each time getting the factory oil filter off has been a fight. I have
> a oil ratchet(?) tool that fits the FL-820S perfectly, but slips on the
> factory installed filters. The factory installed oil filters also have no
> markings upon removal...which usually takes about a half hour and many
> chewed up knuckles.
>
> Has anyone else had this experience with the factory filters?
>
> Al S.
> Poughkeepsie, NY
>



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Old 07-26-2005, 20:01   #7 (permalink)
S.P.
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Re: Factory oil filters

> As for changing the filter, apply a small amt of oil on the gasket, and
> hand tighten only. Like I said, "hand" meaning one hand not both when you
> put that new one on. It won't fall off and you will not need any tools to
> remove it with.


If I remember correctly, most oil filters say something like "Turn until the
gasket touches the seat, then tighten using just your hand 3/4 of a turn
more" If I am totally wrong, I plead insanity.


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