Re: Interesting Finding Regarding Auto Pricing
Yes and no. Yes in theory...but the market is saying that the odds of an
American vehicle going much beyond 100,000 miles without expensive repairs
is slim. Yeah, I am sure that there are MANY MANY MANY on here with examples
like yours, but the odds are against it. In other words, a TOY/HON has a
much better chance of reaching 150,000K without expensive repairs. But if
you can do it in an Explorer (or Town Car, for instance, which has
horrendous depreciation yet seem last as long and as carefree as
HON/TOYs...but then again, you'll have to buy plaid pants and eat dinner at
3:30 in the afternoon).
"Big Shoe" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
> Way to beat this is to keep the vehicle as long as possible. My '92
> EB Explorer had 185,000 miles on it when we sold it for $2,500. My
> '99 EB has about 120,000 and running fine. My '05 Limited has about
> 16,000 miles but has depreciated $14,000, or about 1/3 of its sticker
> price according to Edmunds. Part of the problem here is that the deep
> discounting makes the sticker price meaningless when you calculate
> depreciation. If you can get $8,000 off sticker for a new Explorer,
> then it has already depreciated by that amount from the sticker price
> and has caused used models to depreciate as well (if you can buy a new
> one for $8,000 under sticker then a one year old one has to be worth
> less, therefore the $14,000 depreciation).
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 07:41:25 -0400, "D.D. Palmer"
> <email@example.com> wrote:
>>I did a little research, and found that the market sets car prices, not
>>That being said, both the new and the used car market prices HON/TOY
>>products to last about 150,000
>>miles. Sure, many go much longer and still have some residual worth at
>>150,000 miles. At 150,000 miles, they become "might last longer"
>>vehicles...but not a great bet. But for GM/FORD the market prices them to
>>only to 100,000 miles before it's worth merely a residual "might last
>>longer" value. That's why a loaded CR-V can command $23,000 while you can
>>find a similar Ford Escape that they can only get $18,000 for (after all
>>rebate shenanigans). The market is recognizing that the Escape approaches
>>crap at 100,000 miles while the CR-V probably won't approach crap until
>>150,000 miles. The HON/TOY is actually cheaper to own. Here the 'Scape
>>18 cents/mile while the CR-V costs 15 cents/mile. And while most people
>>don't own a car from showroom to junkyard, this same pricing pattern will
>>show up at resale time so, again, even for the 2-3 year owner, the HON/TOY
>>is cheaper than the GM/FORD to own. (I will say that with the depth of the
>>GM/FORD rebates today, their cost per mile is approaching that of HON/TOY.
>>But, of course, cutting prices enough to compensate people for this 50,000
>>durability gap is killing both GM and FORD in the process).