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> ross via CarKB.com wrote:
> > firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> > >> > I need a vehicle for occasional trips on rough dirt/gravel roads
> > >> > dealing with some mud and maybe fording less than a foot of water.
> > >>
> > >> My wife and I do that kind of driving in '91 and '92 Explorers.
> > >
> > >Thanks, that's just the kind of info I need.
> > >-Paul
> > I think the V8's with the 4r70w tranny are considered the most reliable
> > engine and tranny combo. Gas mileage is a couple of mpg less, but
> > power. I use the awd for just the type of things you are talking about.
> > It's been very good in snow up to 14 -16 inches in Colo.
> > As far as buying, push HARD on price. Ex's are flooding the market here
> > with gas prices, people are dumping. I would seriously offer a dealer
> > 000 to 4,000 under asking price, depending, and be prepared to walk if
> > don't meet it. You will find another one to buy quickly.
> > Buyers market!
Hmmmm.... right here we have two buyers (me included) looking for used
Explorers. I hope that doesn't turn it back into a seller's market ;-)
I got the impression that new car sales are down too. I clicked on one of
those online car quote things and the phone rang. It was a Nissan dealer
(looking into the 4X4 Frontier) who must have been sitting there waiting for
a sales lead. When I hung up the phone it rang again, this time the Ford
guy. Funny, but I can't get Toyota to call me or answer my emails. I guess
their sales are still good.
> You're right about that. I'm shopping the San Francisco Bay Area
> Craig's List. There are many to choose from, and they are asking well
> under the Kelly Blue Book private party price. And not finding buyers.
You might want to do a Google and determine which engine had the 3 timing
chains in case you decide to get something newer than 91-94. I seem to
recall there was a problem with the '97 in particular.
> The ads are running for weeks. I really wanted a truck, but as you say
> the Explorers are a glut on the market and therefore way cheaper than,
> say, a Ranger 4x4 of the same year/miles. My Labradors don't really
> need leather seats, but what the heck. ;-)
Actually, my dogs tend to slide off the leather seats and prefer cloth
interior ;-). The leather lasts a lot longer though.
> I'm afraid to buy from dealers, they know all the tricks. I have some
> funny stories of the stuff they've tried to pull...
I'm generally more comfortable buying from a dealer here in Calif because
they have to make sure it meets certain safety standards and pass the smog
test and such. Some places will even give you 30 days or whatever in case
there is something wrong with it. If you buy from a private party AS IS and
it craps out in a week you are pretty much SOL.