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#1 ·
I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any danger of
not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
 
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#2 ·
The only danger I can think of is that you will need to call for
assistance when you have a flat. Structurally, I can't think of any reason.

"John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any danger
of
| not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
|
|
 
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#3 ·
Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the extra
weight so I will take a chance on that.

Thanks

"John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> The only danger I can think of is that you will need to call for
> assistance when you have a flat. Structurally, I can't think of any
> reason.
>
> "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> | I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any danger
> of
> | not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
> |
> |
>
>
 
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#4 ·
What's with the weight issue? The negligible weight of a spare tire
isn't going to affect mileage, and I pay $3 a month for emergency service
via my cell provider. For piece of mind, I'd leave it be. I can think of no
reason, aside from aesthetics ( meaning you just don't like looking at it )
to remove it, and then there is the issue of the hanger swinging and banging
around ( I hate extra noise ).
Granted, you may never need it, but if you ever leave town you'll feel
better, especially if it is freezing, foul weather, or the middle of
nowhere, like Needles, CA.


"John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cP2dnS93DMD3g1vfRVn-oA@comcast.com...
| Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the
extra
| weight so I will take a chance on that.
|
| Thanks
|
| "John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:1120275843.4d7cef619323e2e08151bee89e1cf375@bubbanews...
| > The only danger I can think of is that you will need to call for
| > assistance when you have a flat. Structurally, I can't think of any
| > reason.
| >
| > "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
| > | I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any
danger
| > of
| > | not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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#5 ·
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:56:10 -0700, "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the extra
>weight so I will take a chance on that.
>
>Thanks


And if you call for road service, what do you think the guy will do
when he gets there? Fix your tire on the spot?
With no spare tire, you'll either wait while he takes your tire back
to the shop, find another shop to fix it if his shop doesn't do that,
then return (on your dime), or get towed.
Having a spare makes thing so much easier, and less expensive.

>
>"John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
>news:1120275843.4d7cef619323e2e08151bee89e1cf375@bubbanews...
>> The only danger I can think of is that you will need to call for
>> assistance when you have a flat. Structurally, I can't think of any
>> reason.
>>
>> "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>> | I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any danger
>> of
>> | not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
>> |
>> |
>>
>>

>


--
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#6 ·
"Bill Funk" <BigBill@there.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:56:10 -0700, "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the
>>extra
>>weight so I will take a chance on that.
>>
>>Thanks

>
> And if you call for road service, what do you think the guy will do
> when he gets there? Fix your tire on the spot?
> With no spare tire, you'll either wait while he takes your tire back
> to the shop, find another shop to fix it if his shop doesn't do that,
> then return (on your dime), or get towed.
> Having a spare makes thing so much easier, and less expensive.



And what about having an irreparable flat tire?
Not having a spare is not a good idea.

Charlie
 
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#7 ·
John Smith wrote:

> Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the extra
> weight so I will take a chance on that.


Seriously, consider your actions and your goals, and maybe give us more
info as to what you are trying to accomplish.

I am not an expert on this but I am aware of no reason why there should
be any structural issues with removing the tire from under the vehicle.

If the idea is to relocate the tire to the roof, that is a questionable
idea, as it puts a heavy weight where it can have a real bad effect on
your stability. Better to put the tire on a bumper rack, or you can do
as I did and make a spare tire rack that goes into the receiver hitch.

If it is to improve mileage, this kind of rig is designed for dealing
with some weight, and that amount will not make any noticeable
difference. The weight issue is a small one compared to the poor
aerodynamics of an SUV when it comes to mileage. And being without a
spare is not a good idea anywhere, anytime.

Changing driving habits. Keep a clean air filter on the vehicle.
Changing to an easy rolling highway tread from the normal mud and snow
tires. Putting synthetic lube in the axles, transmission and engine,
and other such simple things are all much better ideas.




--
Scott

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#9 ·
Jim,

If this guy is of such a mentality that he's asking about removing his spare
tire then he's definitely not going to pick up on your sarcasm.

Thanks for the laugh, though.

Bob


"Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote in message
news:QN1ye.90879$HI.64717@edtnps84...
> If you put it in the back seat, where will the kids sit?
>
> In addition to everyone elses comment, I would suggest travelling with
> only
> enough money/credit cards for gas and don't plan for breakdowns/delays...
> Nothing ever goes wrong.
>
>
> "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>> I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any danger

> of
>> not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
>>
>>

>
>
 
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#8 ·
If you put it in the back seat, where will the kids sit?

In addition to everyone elses comment, I would suggest travelling with only
enough money/credit cards for gas and don't plan for breakdowns/delays...
Nothing ever goes wrong.


"John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any danger

of
> not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
>
>
 
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#10 ·
John Riggs <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:42c6248d_2@x-privat.org...
> What's with the weight issue? The negligible weight of a spare tire
> isn't going to affect mileage, and I pay $3 a month for emergency service
> via my cell provider. For piece of mind, I'd leave it be. I can think of

no
> reason, aside from aesthetics ( meaning you just don't like looking at

it )
> to remove it, and then there is the issue of the hanger swinging and

banging
> around ( I hate extra noise ).
> Granted, you may never need it,


May never need it? I must be one of the unluckiest SOBs on the planet
because between my two Explorers (91 and 92) I've had about 15-20 flat tires
in the last few years and that is mainly with Michelin LTX M/S tires in good
condition. Most were punctures but 3 were seperations from the rim and all
were with the tires properly inflated. It's amazing to me that (so far)
I've never had more than one flat at a time. Maybe I need tractor tires.

The only reason I can think of to remove the spare is because the cable has
a tendency to break (it did on my 91) and leave the spare laying in the
road. Fortunately when mine broke it was on my own property and not on the
highway. I carried it around in the back for a while until I fixed the
cable. No way would I drive my Explorer without a spare. I also carry tire
plugs, a can of Spare Tire In A Can and a 12 volt compressor/inflator. If I
had room I would carry TWO spares.



but if you ever leave town you'll feel
> better, especially if it is freezing, foul weather, or the middle of
> nowhere, like Needles, CA.
>
>
> "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cP2dnS93DMD3g1vfRVn-oA@comcast.com...
> | Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the
> extra
> | weight so I will take a chance on that.
> |
> | Thanks
> |
> | "John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:1120275843.4d7cef619323e2e08151bee89e1cf375@bubbanews...
> | > The only danger I can think of is that you will need to call for
> | > assistance when you have a flat. Structurally, I can't think of any
> | > reason.
> | >
> | > "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> | > | I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any
> danger
> | > of
> | > | not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 
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#11 ·
Perhaps you need to be looking at 6 ply truck tires rather than light
truck and passenger car tires.

"Ulysses" <therealulysses@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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|
| John Riggs <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:42c6248d_2@x-privat.org...
| > What's with the weight issue? The negligible weight of a spare tire
| > isn't going to affect mileage, and I pay $3 a month for emergency
service
| > via my cell provider. For piece of mind, I'd leave it be. I can think of
| no
| > reason, aside from aesthetics ( meaning you just don't like looking at
| it )
| > to remove it, and then there is the issue of the hanger swinging and
| banging
| > around ( I hate extra noise ).
| > Granted, you may never need it,
|
| May never need it? I must be one of the unluckiest SOBs on the planet
| because between my two Explorers (91 and 92) I've had about 15-20 flat
tires
| in the last few years and that is mainly with Michelin LTX M/S tires in
good
| condition. Most were punctures but 3 were seperations from the rim and
all
| were with the tires properly inflated. It's amazing to me that (so far)
| I've never had more than one flat at a time. Maybe I need tractor tires.
|
| The only reason I can think of to remove the spare is because the cable
has
| a tendency to break (it did on my 91) and leave the spare laying in the
| road. Fortunately when mine broke it was on my own property and not on
the
| highway. I carried it around in the back for a while until I fixed the
| cable. No way would I drive my Explorer without a spare. I also carry
tire
| plugs, a can of Spare Tire In A Can and a 12 volt compressor/inflator. If
I
| had room I would carry TWO spares.
|
|
|
| but if you ever leave town you'll feel
| > better, especially if it is freezing, foul weather, or the middle of
| > nowhere, like Needles, CA.
| >
| >
| > "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:cP2dnS93DMD3g1vfRVn-oA@comcast.com...
| > | Yes I thought about the road service assistance. I wanted to lose the
| > extra
| > | weight so I will take a chance on that.
| > |
| > | Thanks
| > |
| > | "John Riggs" <johnri60626@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:1120275843.4d7cef619323e2e08151bee89e1cf375@bubbanews...
| > | > The only danger I can think of is that you will need to call for
| > | > assistance when you have a flat. Structurally, I can't think of any
| > | > reason.
| > | >
| > | > "John Smith" <jsmith@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:xbKdnUazkNUWhFvfRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
| > | > | I've decided to remove the spare tire on my explorer is there any
| > danger
| > | > of
| > | > | not having the spare tire underneath the rear end?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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#12 ·
"Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote in message
news:QN1ye.90879$HI.64717@edtnps84...
> If you put it in the back seat, where will the kids sit?
>
> In addition to everyone elses comment, I would suggest travelling with

only
> enough money/credit cards for gas and don't plan for breakdowns/delays...
> Nothing ever goes wrong.


Ok, to be honest, how often have you needed a spare?

In the last 10 years and close to 400,000 miles of driving, I've used a
spare tire once. This is not to say I have not had flats, but in all cases
but one, they were slow leaks that did not actually go flat until I parked
the car overnight. In every case but one, I pumped the tire up (sometimes
with my $12 cigarette lighter compressor) and drove to the tire store to get
it fixed. And in the case where I actually used the spare, I would have used
the compressor, except the truck was brand new and I had not yet added a
battery powered compressor to the kit of stuff I carried around in the
back. Now tractor tires are a whole different problem - I've had lots of
flats with those and no spare (sigh, and no easy way to fix them either).

I did have an amusing flat tire experience a couple of weeks back. A paint
contractor's van was parked in the entrance to my farm path. I need to get
in. The guys had a flat. But, they did not have a jack. So I when and got
one of mine and helped them jack up the van. Then they did not have a lug
wrench. So I got the one out of my truck and helped them remove the tire.
Then they did not have a tool to lower their spare. I got one out of my
truck and helped them lower the spare. The spare was flat. So I took the
spare to my shop and added air. Turned out it had a slow leak from a former
bad repair (crappy plug on the edge of the tread). The original tire had the
valve stem knocked off, so I could not fix it. So, I put a lot of air in the
spare (60 lbs). We put the leaking spare on the van, I gathered up my tools,
and I pointed the guys at the nearest tire store (5 miles). I've seen the
van on the road since then, so I guess they survived. Next time I see
someone in a ratty van stopped in my way, I think I'll turn around and go to
the store for a Pepsi.

Ed
 
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#13 ·
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:47:46 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote:

>Ok, to be honest, how often have you needed a spare?


Every time I've had a flat tire.

--
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#14 ·
C. E. White wrote:
> "Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote in message
> news:QN1ye.90879$HI.64717@edtnps84...
>
>>If you put it in the back seat, where will the kids sit?
>>
>>In addition to everyone elses comment, I would suggest travelling with

>
> only
>
>>enough money/credit cards for gas and don't plan for breakdowns/delays...
>>Nothing ever goes wrong.

>
>
> Ok, to be honest, how often have you needed a spare?
>
> In the last 10 years and close to 400,000 miles of driving, I've used a
> spare tire once. This is not to say I have not had flats, but in all cases
> but one, they were slow leaks that did not actually go flat until I parked
> the car overnight. In every case but one, I pumped the tire up (sometimes
> with my $12 cigarette lighter compressor) and drove to the tire store to get
> it fixed. And in the case where I actually used the spare, I would have used
> the compressor, except the truck was brand new and I had not yet added a
> battery powered compressor to the kit of stuff I carried around in the
> back. Now tractor tires are a whole different problem - I've had lots of
> flats with those and no spare (sigh, and no easy way to fix them either).
>
> I did have an amusing flat tire experience a couple of weeks back. A paint
> contractor's van was parked in the entrance to my farm path. I need to get
> in. The guys had a flat. But, they did not have a jack. So I when and got
> one of mine and helped them jack up the van. Then they did not have a lug
> wrench. So I got the one out of my truck and helped them remove the tire.
> Then they did not have a tool to lower their spare. I got one out of my
> truck and helped them lower the spare. The spare was flat. So I took the
> spare to my shop and added air. Turned out it had a slow leak from a former
> bad repair (crappy plug on the edge of the tread). The original tire had the
> valve stem knocked off, so I could not fix it. So, I put a lot of air in the
> spare (60 lbs). We put the leaking spare on the van, I gathered up my tools,
> and I pointed the guys at the nearest tire store (5 miles). I've seen the
> van on the road since then, so I guess they survived. Next time I see
> someone in a ratty van stopped in my way, I think I'll turn around and go to
> the store for a Pepsi.
>
> Ed
>
>


As they say, no good deed goes unpunished!

I had a similar experience a couple of different times. It sure makes a
person wonder about Karma!

--
Scott

It isn't the gold that I am wanting so much as just finding the gold.
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#15 ·
C. E. White wrote:

> "Jim Warman" <mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote in message
> news:QN1ye.90879$HI.64717@edtnps84...
>
>>If you put it in the back seat, where will the kids sit?
>>
>>In addition to everyone elses comment, I would suggest travelling with

>
> only
>
>>enough money/credit cards for gas and don't plan for breakdowns/delays...
>>Nothing ever goes wrong.

>
>
> Ok, to be honest, how often have you needed a spare?
>
> In the last 10 years and close to 400,000 miles of driving, I've used a
> spare tire once. This is not to say I have not had flats, but in all cases


I have had an average of 4 flats on per set of tires on each vehicle for
the last 10 years or so. I had 6 on one vehicle in one winter due to
construction where my wife works. That seems to be the biggest culprit.

About 2/3 of the time I can use my pump and limp to a garage. The rest
I have needed the spare. Probably about 1 time each year I need it.



--
Scott

It isn't the gold that I am wanting so much as just finding the gold.
Robert W. Service

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