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Old 06-14-2005, 00:24   #1 (permalink)
hueydewyandlouie@yahoo.com
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66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:40:59 -0600, "66 6F HCS"
<92bottledance_spammit_@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>I wasn't trying to belittle your post. Yes, as a visual deterrent, thieves
>looking for a quick buck would probably move on, but there are those stupid
>thieves out there who actually think they might be able to get the car and
>would end up trashing it in the process.
>
>I prefer something visible, yes, but not a visible thing that could
>potentially trash my car at the same time. I'm thinking a cheap alarm with a
>blinking light (or just a blinking light if you're REALLY cheap) would be
>decent as a visual deterrent, along with something that the car truly
>couldn't go without. If I park somewhere I don't trust 100%, I pull the
>rotor. Cheap insurance. This lets the motor turn over but not start. It's
>now taken him some time to figure out why the car won't start. Time is his
>enemy. Unless he carries a SBF rotor in his pocket, the more time he spends
>trying to steal the car the more likely he'll get caught.


thats advice ...pull the rotor
did ya think of that one yourself
lmfao
what a foctard
its called an ignition kill switch
hook one under dash or seat
YA FOCKTARD
lmfao

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Old 06-14-2005, 08:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

One of the first things crooks do is look for the kill switch in the
usual suspect places!!!
They don't like cars that won't start and sometimes trash them as
punishment for fooling them.
The rotor is a very good ides I once took mine from the Toronto Area to
the Vancouver in my suit case Just because I could flip it in there! It
was a dual point Mallory and would have been real hard to replace.
Also chained the hood down with a paddle lock. This was after my car was
stolen and partially stripped!
Dodgem

hueydewyandlouie@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:40:59 -0600, "66 6F HCS"
> <92bottledance_spammit_@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I wasn't trying to belittle your post. Yes, as a visual deterrent, thieves
>>looking for a quick buck would probably move on, but there are those stupid
>>thieves out there who actually think they might be able to get the car and
>>would end up trashing it in the process.
>>
>>I prefer something visible, yes, but not a visible thing that could
>>potentially trash my car at the same time. I'm thinking a cheap alarm with a
>>blinking light (or just a blinking light if you're REALLY cheap) would be
>>decent as a visual deterrent, along with something that the car truly
>>couldn't go without. If I park somewhere I don't trust 100%, I pull the
>>rotor. Cheap insurance. This lets the motor turn over but not start. It's
>>now taken him some time to figure out why the car won't start. Time is his
>>enemy. Unless he carries a SBF rotor in his pocket, the more time he spends
>>trying to steal the car the more likely he'll get caught.

>
>
> thats advice ...pull the rotor
> did ya think of that one yourself
> lmfao
> what a foctard
> its called an ignition kill switch
> hook one under dash or seat
> YA FOCKTARD
> lmfao
>
> U GO GIRL


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Old 06-14-2005, 16:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:42:45 -0400, Dodge-Him
<Hemi'sRule@Dodgeland.ca> wrote:

>One of the first things crooks do is look for the kill switch in the
>usual suspect places!!!
>They don't like cars that won't start and sometimes trash them as
>punishment for fooling them.
>The rotor is a very good ides I once took mine from the Toronto Area to
>the Vancouver in my suit case Just because I could flip it in there! It
>was a dual point Mallory and would have been real hard to replace.
>Also chained the hood down with a paddle lock. This was after my car was
>stolen and partially stripped!
>Dodgem
>


if their smart enough to find where I hide the kill switch
they are pros. and ya dont stand much chance

hurc ast
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Old 06-14-2005, 17:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

hey there, i have a kill switch in my car.. it's not so bad. mounted right
on the dash with the label "foglights". this switch, when flipped, provides
power not to my foglights-- which i wired into the headlight switch...
instead it redirects my 12V starter relay to the rear defroster switch,
which, when pressed in conjunction with my 'foglights' switched on and the
ignition key to the 'start' position, engages the starter motor. two
switches, innocent, right there on the dash. my car has been broken into
twice and not stolen, since the first thefting... though both times they
tried to start it with the column busted open and a screwdriver jammed in
there, with no luck.


<hueydewyandlouie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:n8lua1tbtf4hofgovnk53hqtrl8je811b2@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:42:45 -0400, Dodge-Him
> <Hemi'sRule@Dodgeland.ca> wrote:
>
>>One of the first things crooks do is look for the kill switch in the
>>usual suspect places!!!
>>They don't like cars that won't start and sometimes trash them as
>>punishment for fooling them.
>>The rotor is a very good ides I once took mine from the Toronto Area to
>>the Vancouver in my suit case Just because I could flip it in there! It
>>was a dual point Mallory and would have been real hard to replace.
>>Also chained the hood down with a paddle lock. This was after my car was
>>stolen and partially stripped!
>>Dodgem
>>

>
> if their smart enough to find where I hide the kill switch
> they are pros. and ya dont stand much chance
>
> hurc ast



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Old 06-14-2005, 19:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

Okay... got that down.... And you live where? LOL : )


On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:30:58 GMT, "ArchTaib" <archtaib@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>hey there, i have a kill switch in my car.. it's not so bad. mounted right
>on the dash with the label "foglights". this switch, when flipped, provides
>power not to my foglights-- which i wired into the headlight switch...
>instead it redirects my 12V starter relay to the rear defroster switch,
>which, when pressed in conjunction with my 'foglights' switched on and the
>ignition key to the 'start' position, engages the starter motor. two
>switches, innocent, right there on the dash. my car has been broken into
>twice and not stolen, since the first thefting... though both times they
>tried to start it with the column busted open and a screwdriver jammed in
>there, with no luck.
>
>
><hueydewyandlouie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:n8lua1tbtf4hofgovnk53hqtrl8je811b2@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:42:45 -0400, Dodge-Him
>> <Hemi'sRule@Dodgeland.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>One of the first things crooks do is look for the kill switch in the
>>>usual suspect places!!!
>>>They don't like cars that won't start and sometimes trash them as
>>>punishment for fooling them.
>>>The rotor is a very good ides I once took mine from the Toronto Area to
>>>the Vancouver in my suit case Just because I could flip it in there! It
>>>was a dual point Mallory and would have been real hard to replace.
>>>Also chained the hood down with a paddle lock. This was after my car was
>>>stolen and partially stripped!
>>>Dodgem
>>>

>>
>> if their smart enough to find where I hide the kill switch
>> they are pros. and ya dont stand much chance
>>
>> hurc ast

>


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Old 06-14-2005, 19:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

We'll leave the crosspost for now..... something that works great on
distributor cars is to swap the #1 wire and the coil wire in the cap.
Someone will have to be very sharp to notice, the car will appear to want to
start but act like the plugs are wet, checking with a timing light while an
assistant cranks the motor will reveal a perfectly timed ignition system.

If a kill switch is your choice, the switch should go on the ground
(switched) side of the coil. This switch can either gound this terminal or
isolate the terminal. Putting the switch in the powered side of the circuit
is too easy to bypass. Grounding the switched side of the coil can be hidden
in any tach wiring you might have. This type of kill switch will be much
harder to bypass and require diagnostic time that a thief doesn't usually
have.


"Dodge-Him" <Hemi'sRule@Dodgeland.ca> wrote in message
news:lZudnVJbV4ERcTPfRVn-ug@rogers.com...
> One of the first things crooks do is look for the kill switch in the
> usual suspect places!!!
> They don't like cars that won't start and sometimes trash them as
> punishment for fooling them.
> The rotor is a very good ides I once took mine from the Toronto Area to
> the Vancouver in my suit case Just because I could flip it in there! It
> was a dual point Mallory and would have been real hard to replace.
> Also chained the hood down with a paddle lock. This was after my car was
> stolen and partially stripped!
> Dodgem
>
> hueydewyandlouie@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:40:59 -0600, "66 6F HCS"
> > <92bottledance_spammit_@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I wasn't trying to belittle your post. Yes, as a visual deterrent,

thieves
> >>looking for a quick buck would probably move on, but there are those

stupid
> >>thieves out there who actually think they might be able to get the car

and
> >>would end up trashing it in the process.
> >>
> >>I prefer something visible, yes, but not a visible thing that could
> >>potentially trash my car at the same time. I'm thinking a cheap alarm

with a
> >>blinking light (or just a blinking light if you're REALLY cheap) would

be
> >>decent as a visual deterrent, along with something that the car truly
> >>couldn't go without. If I park somewhere I don't trust 100%, I pull the
> >>rotor. Cheap insurance. This lets the motor turn over but not start.

It's
> >>now taken him some time to figure out why the car won't start. Time is

his
> >>enemy. Unless he carries a SBF rotor in his pocket, the more time he

spends
> >>trying to steal the car the more likely he'll get caught.

> >
> >
> > thats advice ...pull the rotor
> > did ya think of that one yourself
> > lmfao
> > what a foctard
> > its called an ignition kill switch
> > hook one under dash or seat
> > YA FOCKTARD
> > lmfao
> >
> > U GO GIRL

>



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Old 06-14-2005, 23:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

Jim Warman wrote:
> We'll leave the crosspost for now..... something that works great on
> distributor cars is to swap the #1 wire and the coil wire in the cap.
> Someone will have to be very sharp to notice, the car will appear to want to
> start but act like the plugs are wet, checking with a timing light while an
> assistant cranks the motor will reveal a perfectly timed ignition system.
>
> If a kill switch is your choice, the switch should go on the ground
> (switched) side of the coil. This switch can either gound this terminal or
> isolate the terminal. Putting the switch in the powered side of the circuit
> is too easy to bypass. Grounding the switched side of the coil can be hidden
> in any tach wiring you might have. This type of kill switch will be much
> harder to bypass and require diagnostic time that a thief doesn't usually
> have.
>
>



All of this seems like a lot of trouble when you want to drive the car regularly.
Something I've done is wire the starter crank circiit through a relay in the park
lamp circuit. Won't crank unless you turn on the park\ running lights. Install a
bypass in an out of the way location in case there is a problem.
No add on "kill switch" circuit is fool proof. Most are deterrents and the
effectiveness if ruled by how well you hide the wiring mods. If the thief can't start
the car after a minute or so, he'll give up.( And hopefully not do too much damage
because of his failure). If someone really wants to steal your car, they will use a
tow truck. No anti-theft features can stop that.
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Old 06-14-2005, 23:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 66 6f hcs has a brilliant idea

A fellow club member gave a talk one night at a meeting and he made
mention of putting the switch before the coil IIRC.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:13:21 GMT, "Jim Warman"
<mechanic@tenalpsulet.net> wrote:

>We'll leave the crosspost for now..... something that works great on
>distributor cars is to swap the #1 wire and the coil wire in the cap.
>Someone will have to be very sharp to notice, the car will appear to want to
>start but act like the plugs are wet, checking with a timing light while an
>assistant cranks the motor will reveal a perfectly timed ignition system.
>
>If a kill switch is your choice, the switch should go on the ground
>(switched) side of the coil. This switch can either gound this terminal or
>isolate the terminal. Putting the switch in the powered side of the circuit
>is too easy to bypass. Grounding the switched side of the coil can be hidden
>in any tach wiring you might have. This type of kill switch will be much
>harder to bypass and require diagnostic time that a thief doesn't usually
>have.
>
>
>"Dodge-Him" <Hemi'sRule@Dodgeland.ca> wrote in message
>news:lZudnVJbV4ERcTPfRVn-ug@rogers.com...
>> One of the first things crooks do is look for the kill switch in the
>> usual suspect places!!!
>> They don't like cars that won't start and sometimes trash them as
>> punishment for fooling them.
>> The rotor is a very good ides I once took mine from the Toronto Area to
>> the Vancouver in my suit case Just because I could flip it in there! It
>> was a dual point Mallory and would have been real hard to replace.
>> Also chained the hood down with a paddle lock. This was after my car was
>> stolen and partially stripped!
>> Dodgem
>>
>> hueydewyandlouie@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:40:59 -0600, "66 6F HCS"
>> > <92bottledance_spammit_@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>I wasn't trying to belittle your post. Yes, as a visual deterrent,

>thieves
>> >>looking for a quick buck would probably move on, but there are those

>stupid
>> >>thieves out there who actually think they might be able to get the car

>and
>> >>would end up trashing it in the process.
>> >>
>> >>I prefer something visible, yes, but not a visible thing that could
>> >>potentially trash my car at the same time. I'm thinking a cheap alarm

>with a
>> >>blinking light (or just a blinking light if you're REALLY cheap) would

>be
>> >>decent as a visual deterrent, along with something that the car truly
>> >>couldn't go without. If I park somewhere I don't trust 100%, I pull the
>> >>rotor. Cheap insurance. This lets the motor turn over but not start.

>It's
>> >>now taken him some time to figure out why the car won't start. Time is

>his
>> >>enemy. Unless he carries a SBF rotor in his pocket, the more time he

>spends
>> >>trying to steal the car the more likely he'll get caught.
>> >
>> >
>> > thats advice ...pull the rotor
>> > did ya think of that one yourself
>> > lmfao
>> > what a foctard
>> > its called an ignition kill switch
>> > hook one under dash or seat
>> > YA FOCKTARD
>> > lmfao
>> >
>> > U GO GIRL

>>

>


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Old 06-15-2005, 12:01   #9 (permalink)
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:05:44 -0400, Tom Adkins
<newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote:

Mine's a daily driver. Still, with what I've spent on restoration and
modifications , I don't want to give the local punk an easy mark.

Nothing like walking out of the grocery with your arms full and no
place to put the stuff except on the ground... or take someone special
out to dinner and end up calling a cab for her while spending time
filling out theft reports....

I just want something (or more than one) that sends the potential
thief after someone else's ride. And preferable something simple. I
don't want to have to park next to a light post and haul out an anchor
chain and hulking lock like I do with my bike. Just a simple flip of a
switch. Add a 9 volt battery connected to a flashing LED and you have
psychological deterrence. Toss in a claymore mine wired to the
driver's seat, a couple of flashing neon signs and some NRA and
militia stickers.

I did see something I thought could be adapted... a small advertising
sign with scrolling words that was programmable. Looked kinda like a
third brake light. Enter the message

"I just stole this vehicle. Call 911 and report me."

If the car is started without turning of the sign circuit, the message
is displayed....... : )



>
> All of this seems like a lot of trouble when you want to drive the car regularly.
> Something I've done is wire the starter crank circiit through a relay in the park
>lamp circuit. Won't crank unless you turn on the park\ running lights. Install a
>bypass in an out of the way location in case there is a problem.
> No add on "kill switch" circuit is fool proof. Most are deterrents and the
>effectiveness if ruled by how well you hide the wiring mods. If the thief can't start
>the car after a minute or so, he'll give up.( And hopefully not do too much damage
>because of his failure). If someone really wants to steal your car, they will use a
>tow truck. No anti-theft features can stop that.


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