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Old 04-08-2005, 16:02   #1 (permalink)
Laurie S.
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Arizona Emissions Alert!!!

Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Passes Senate,

Moves to Governor to be Signed into Arizona Law

A bill (H.B. 2357) to exempt qualified collectible vehicles 15 years old and
older from the state's mandatory emissions inspection and maintenance
program has been approved by the Arizona State Legislature. Qualifying
vehicles would have to maintain appropriate collectible or classic
automobile insurance to retain these benefits. The bill now moves to
Governor Napolitano's office for her signature.

ACT NOW! Contact Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano (Contact Information
Below) Immediately to Request Her Support for H.B. 2357


a.. H.B. 2357 defines collectible vehicles as 15 years old or older, OR of
unique or rare design, of limited production and an object of curiosity and
maintained primarily for car club activities, exhibitions, parades, etc. and
is used infrequently for other purposes.

b.. H.B. 2357 provides for a rolling 15-year emissions inspection
exemption that would exempt qualifying vehicles upon enactment and would
pick up an additional model year for each year the law is in effect.

c.. H.B. 2357 provides for an emissions inspection exemption for
collectible vehicles for which the owner holds appropriate insurance
coverage.

d.. H.B. 2357 acknowledges the relatively minimal environmental impact of
older vehicles, such as the older vehicles targeted for this exemption.

e.. H.B. 2357 recognizes that such vehicles constitute a small portion of
the vehicle fleet and are well-maintained and infrequently operated.

DON'T DELAY! Please contact Governor Janet Napolitano immediately to
request her support for H.B. 2357.



The Honorable Janet Napolitano
Governor of Arizona
1700 West Washington
Phoenix, Arizona 85007

Telephone: 602-542-4331
Fax: 602-542-1381

http://www.governor.state.az.us/post/feedback.asp


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Old 04-08-2005, 17:01   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, a 15-year rolling exemption? That covers everything from 1990 on
back. I see blower 5.0's and LT-1's on the loose.

And it looks like "unique" (i.e., high-dollar) '91's-'05's can get an
exemption if you swear not to exceed some kind of mileage limit.

Is there also a mileage limit for the '90's and older?

If the Gov signs, does this mean that Trouble's emissions worries are
over?

Is the Gov likely to sign?

Here in Cali, the originator of the rolling exemption in 1998, we
started with exemptions for the '73 model year and older, and then we
were supposed to start picking up a new model year each year from
1/1/04 on. It worked for exactly one year. Now, effective 1/1/05,
it's frozen for good at the '75 model year. But at least we have no
mileage restrictions. And of course federal law prohbits any
non-exempt alterations to the emissions equipment. So all the oldies
run fully restored and operational smog gear, stock cams, etc., anyway,
right?

180 Out

Laurie S. wrote:
> Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Passes

Senate,
>
> Moves to Governor to be Signed into Arizona Law
>
> A bill (H.B. 2357) to exempt qualified collectible vehicles 15 years

old and
> older from the state's mandatory emissions inspection and maintenance


> program has been approved by the Arizona State Legislature.

Qualifying
> vehicles would have to maintain appropriate collectible or classic
> automobile insurance to retain these benefits. The bill now moves

to
> Governor Napolitano's office for her signature.
>
> ACT NOW! Contact Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano (Contact

Information
> Below) Immediately to Request Her Support for H.B. 2357
>
>
> a.. H.B. 2357 defines collectible vehicles as 15 years old or

older, OR of
> unique or rare design, of limited production and an object of

curiosity and
> maintained primarily for car club activities, exhibitions, parades,

etc. and
> is used infrequently for other purposes.
>
> b.. H.B. 2357 provides for a rolling 15-year emissions inspection
> exemption that would exempt qualifying vehicles upon enactment and

would
> pick up an additional model year for each year the law is in effect.
>
> c.. H.B. 2357 provides for an emissions inspection exemption for
> collectible vehicles for which the owner holds appropriate insurance
> coverage.
>
> d.. H.B. 2357 acknowledges the relatively minimal environmental

impact of
> older vehicles, such as the older vehicles targeted for this

exemption.
>
> e.. H.B. 2357 recognizes that such vehicles constitute a small

portion of
> the vehicle fleet and are well-maintained and infrequently operated.
>
> DON'T DELAY! Please contact Governor Janet Napolitano immediately to


> request her support for H.B. 2357.
>
>
>
> The Honorable Janet Napolitano
> Governor of Arizona
> 1700 West Washington
> Phoenix, Arizona 85007
>
> Telephone: 602-542-4331
> Fax: 602-542-1381
>
> http://www.governor.state.az.us/post/feedback.asp
>
>
> ----------------
> Laurie S.
> Thunder Snake #7


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Old 04-08-2005, 17:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Arizona Emissions Alert!!!

<one80out@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112997012.462624.326100@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Wow, a 15-year rolling exemption? That covers everything from 1990 on
> back. I see blower 5.0's and LT-1's on the loose.
>
> And it looks like "unique" (i.e., high-dollar) '91's-'05's can get an
> exemption if you swear not to exceed some kind of mileage limit.
>
> Is there also a mileage limit for the '90's and older?
>
> If the Gov signs, does this mean that Trouble's emissions worries are
> over?
>
> Is the Gov likely to sign?
>
> Here in Cali, the originator of the rolling exemption in 1998, we
> started with exemptions for the '73 model year and older, and then we
> were supposed to start picking up a new model year each year from
> 1/1/04 on. It worked for exactly one year. Now, effective 1/1/05,
> it's frozen for good at the '75 model year. But at least we have no
> mileage restrictions. And of course federal law prohbits any
> non-exempt alterations to the emissions equipment. So all the oldies
> run fully restored and operational smog gear, stock cams, etc., anyway,
> right?
>
> 180 Out
>
> Laurie S. wrote:
>> Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Passes

> Senate,
>>
>> Moves to Governor to be Signed into Arizona Law



I think there's a good chance that she will sign the bill because a two-year
study was done before the bill was proposed. The study showed that no
negative effects would occur by eliminating emissions for these cars. The
kicker is that the car has to have specialty collector's insurance, which is
a narrow section of the cars. But what we figure is get this passed, then
work on expanding the coverage.

Yes, if it passes, I'll be first in line at the DMV licensing Trouble. :)

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Old 04-08-2005, 23:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Arizona Emissions Alert!!!


"Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
news:42570567$0$25885$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
> <one80out@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1112997012.462624.326100@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Wow, a 15-year rolling exemption? That covers everything from 1990 on
> > back. I see blower 5.0's and LT-1's on the loose.
> >
> > And it looks like "unique" (i.e., high-dollar) '91's-'05's can get an
> > exemption if you swear not to exceed some kind of mileage limit.
> >
> > Is there also a mileage limit for the '90's and older?
> >
> > If the Gov signs, does this mean that Trouble's emissions worries are
> > over?
> >
> > Is the Gov likely to sign?
> >
> > Here in Cali, the originator of the rolling exemption in 1998, we
> > started with exemptions for the '73 model year and older, and then we
> > were supposed to start picking up a new model year each year from
> > 1/1/04 on. It worked for exactly one year. Now, effective 1/1/05,
> > it's frozen for good at the '75 model year. But at least we have no
> > mileage restrictions. And of course federal law prohbits any
> > non-exempt alterations to the emissions equipment. So all the oldies
> > run fully restored and operational smog gear, stock cams, etc., anyway,
> > right?
> >
> > 180 Out
> >
> > Laurie S. wrote:
> >> Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Passes

> > Senate,
> >>
> >> Moves to Governor to be Signed into Arizona Law

>
>
> I think there's a good chance that she will sign the bill because a

two-year
> study was done before the bill was proposed. The study showed that no
> negative effects would occur by eliminating emissions for these cars. The
> kicker is that the car has to have specialty collector's insurance, which

is
> a narrow section of the cars. But what we figure is get this passed, then
> work on expanding the coverage.
>


What's the skinny on the specific insurance?


> Yes, if it passes, I'll be first in line at the DMV licensing Trouble. :)
>
> ---------------
> Laurie S.
> Thunder Snake #7
>
>



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Old 04-09-2005, 01:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Arizona Emissions Alert!!!

Paste reply.....



Dear fellow Arizonan,

I recently received your email and would like to thank you for your interest
in our state's future and for taking the time to share your thoughts and
concerns. I would also like to thank you for visiting my web site, where
you can continue to go for updates on your state government.

Please know that your email will receive immediate attention. If you have
further questions, you may call my office at 602-542-1318. I look forward
to working with you on building a better Arizona.

Very Truly Yours,

Janet Napolitano
Governor


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Old 04-09-2005, 14:02   #6 (permalink)
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"Jason" <Jason@NoOneHome.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
> news:42570567$0$25885$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
> > <one80out@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1112997012.462624.326100@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > Wow, a 15-year rolling exemption? That covers everything from 1990 on
> > > back. I see blower 5.0's and LT-1's on the loose.
> > >
> > > And it looks like "unique" (i.e., high-dollar) '91's-'05's can get an
> > > exemption if you swear not to exceed some kind of mileage limit.
> > >
> > > Is there also a mileage limit for the '90's and older?
> > >
> > > If the Gov signs, does this mean that Trouble's emissions worries are
> > > over?
> > >
> > > Is the Gov likely to sign?
> > >
> > > Here in Cali, the originator of the rolling exemption in 1998, we
> > > started with exemptions for the '73 model year and older, and then we
> > > were supposed to start picking up a new model year each year from
> > > 1/1/04 on. It worked for exactly one year. Now, effective 1/1/05,
> > > it's frozen for good at the '75 model year. But at least we have no
> > > mileage restrictions. And of course federal law prohbits any
> > > non-exempt alterations to the emissions equipment. So all the oldies
> > > run fully restored and operational smog gear, stock cams, etc.,

anyway,
> > > right?
> > >
> > > 180 Out
> > >
> > > Laurie S. wrote:
> > >> Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Passes
> > > Senate,
> > >>
> > >> Moves to Governor to be Signed into Arizona Law

> >
> >
> > I think there's a good chance that she will sign the bill because a

> two-year
> > study was done before the bill was proposed. The study showed that no
> > negative effects would occur by eliminating emissions for these cars.

The
> > kicker is that the car has to have specialty collector's insurance,

which
> is
> > a narrow section of the cars. But what we figure is get this passed,

then
> > work on expanding the coverage.
> >

>
> What's the skinny on the specific insurance?
>
>
> > Yes, if it passes, I'll be first in line at the DMV licensing Trouble.

:)
> >
> > ---------------
> > Laurie S.
> > Thunder Snake #7
> >
> >

>
>


The vehicle must have collector's insurance, which I'm sure is why Hagerty
is so involved with spreading the word. I imagine for the initial waiver
you'll have to go to DMV and show proof of collector's insurance. What I
wonder is how would they know if you then dropped that insurance? It should
be interesting to see how they handle this.

-----------
Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7


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Old 04-09-2005, 14:02   #7 (permalink)
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"Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Paste reply.....
>
>
>
> Dear fellow Arizonan,
>
> I recently received your email and would like to thank you for your

interest
> in our state's future and for taking the time to share your thoughts and
> concerns. I would also like to thank you for visiting my web site, where
> you can continue to go for updates on your state government.
>
> Please know that your email will receive immediate attention. If you have
> further questions, you may call my office at 602-542-1318. I look forward
> to working with you on building a better Arizona.
>
> Very Truly Yours,
>
> Janet Napolitano
> Governor
>
>


Yep, your standard boiler plate reply. But, at least there is a count made
of the number of e-mails, letters, calls, etc.

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Old 04-11-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:33:03 -0700, "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com>
wrote:

>
>"Jason" <Jason@NoOneHome.net> wrote in message
>news:peI5e.6014$EX4.5958@fed1read01...
>>
>> "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
>> news:42570567$0$25885$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
>> > <one80out@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1112997012.462624.326100@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> > > Wow, a 15-year rolling exemption? That covers everything from 1990 on
>> > > back. I see blower 5.0's and LT-1's on the loose.
>> > >
>> > > And it looks like "unique" (i.e., high-dollar) '91's-'05's can get an
>> > > exemption if you swear not to exceed some kind of mileage limit.
>> > >
>> > > Is there also a mileage limit for the '90's and older?
>> > >
>> > > If the Gov signs, does this mean that Trouble's emissions worries are
>> > > over?
>> > >
>> > > Is the Gov likely to sign?
>> > >
>> > > Here in Cali, the originator of the rolling exemption in 1998, we
>> > > started with exemptions for the '73 model year and older, and then we
>> > > were supposed to start picking up a new model year each year from
>> > > 1/1/04 on. It worked for exactly one year. Now, effective 1/1/05,
>> > > it's frozen for good at the '75 model year. But at least we have no
>> > > mileage restrictions. And of course federal law prohbits any
>> > > non-exempt alterations to the emissions equipment. So all the oldies
>> > > run fully restored and operational smog gear, stock cams, etc.,

>anyway,
>> > > right?
>> > >
>> > > 180 Out
>> > >
>> > > Laurie S. wrote:
>> > >> Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Passes
>> > > Senate,
>> > >>
>> > >> Moves to Governor to be Signed into Arizona Law
>> >
>> >
>> > I think there's a good chance that she will sign the bill because a

>> two-year
>> > study was done before the bill was proposed. The study showed that no
>> > negative effects would occur by eliminating emissions for these cars.

>The
>> > kicker is that the car has to have specialty collector's insurance,

>which
>> is
>> > a narrow section of the cars. But what we figure is get this passed,

>then
>> > work on expanding the coverage.
>> >

>>
>> What's the skinny on the specific insurance?
>>
>>
>> > Yes, if it passes, I'll be first in line at the DMV licensing Trouble.

>:)
>> >
>> > ---------------
>> > Laurie S.
>> > Thunder Snake #7
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>The vehicle must have collector's insurance, which I'm sure is why Hagerty
>is so involved with spreading the word. I imagine for the initial waiver
>you'll have to go to DMV and show proof of collector's insurance. What I
>wonder is how would they know if you then dropped that insurance? It should
>be interesting to see how they handle this.
>
>-----------
>Laurie S.
>Thunder Snake #7
>


Doesn't the insurance company notify the MVD when someone drops their
insurance ? This is what I was told when I accidently dropped my mc
insurance because I didn't get the renewal bill.

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