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Old 12-02-2005, 06:01   #1 (permalink)
Rich
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Big Brother in your car

And the first person to die because they couldn't go
fast enough to avoid a problem will be the death of THIS
device.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Canadian auto regulators are testing a
system that would enforce speed limits by making it harder to push
down the car's gas pedal once the speed limit is passed, according to
a newspaper report.

The system being tested by Transport Canada, the Canadian equivalent
of the U.S. Department of Transportation, uses a global positioning
satellite device installed in the car to monitor the car's speed and
position. If the car begins to significantly exceed the speed limit
for the road on which it's travelling the system responds by making it
harder to depress the gas pedal, according to a story posted on the
Toronto Globe and Mail's Website.

The pilot test, using 10 cars driven by volunteers, is believed to be
the first in North America, although similar systems have been tested
in several European countries, according to the newspaper.

The agency is also testing another system that warns drivers with a
voice alarm and a light whenever they start to speed, the newspaper
said. Those systems are already on sale, according to the report. The
company that makes the alarm device, the Otto Driving Companion, has
already sold 400 of the units in Winnipeg alone, the newspaper said.
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Old 12-02-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Big Brother in your car

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:27:49 -0500, Rich <none@none.com> wrote:

>And the first person to die because they couldn't go
>fast enough to avoid a problem will be the death of THIS
>device.
>
>NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Canadian auto regulators are testing a
>system that would enforce speed limits by making it harder to push
>down the car's gas pedal once the speed limit is passed, according to
>a newspaper report.
>
>The system being tested by Transport Canada, the Canadian equivalent
>of the U.S. Department of Transportation, uses a global positioning
>satellite device installed in the car to monitor the car's speed and
>position. If the car begins to significantly exceed the speed limit
>for the road on which it's travelling the system responds by making it
>harder to depress the gas pedal, according to a story posted on the
>Toronto Globe and Mail's Website.
>
>The pilot test, using 10 cars driven by volunteers, is believed to be
>the first in North America, although similar systems have been tested
>in several European countries, according to the newspaper.
>
>The agency is also testing another system that warns drivers with a
>voice alarm and a light whenever they start to speed, the newspaper
>said. Those systems are already on sale, according to the report. The
>company that makes the alarm device, the Otto Driving Companion, has
>already sold 400 of the units in Winnipeg alone, the newspaper said.
>Top of page


Would it not just be easier to install a governor on each vehicle?
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Spike
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w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
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Old 12-02-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Big Brother in your car

A governor wouldn't work in the same way. You could still go 65 in a 25
zone. This would prevent this, as it incorporates the road you are
travelling on into the data. This worries me. What happens if you are
traveling off a public road, where it is legal to go any speed (like a
dragstrip, or autox course) Does the system recognize this, or just use
the road closest to where you are? Would police have access to this
information, as it would track position. I hope this doesn't make it to
the US

CBeech

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Old 12-02-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
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On 2 Dec 2005 14:03:36 -0800, "CBeech" <CBeech23@gmail.com> wrote:

>A governor wouldn't work in the same way. You could still go 65 in a 25
>zone. This would prevent this, as it incorporates the road you are
>travelling on into the data. This worries me. What happens if you are
>traveling off a public road, where it is legal to go any speed (like a
>dragstrip, or autox course) Does the system recognize this, or just use
>the road closest to where you are? Would police have access to this
>information, as it would track position. I hope this doesn't make it to
>the US
>
>CBeech

Agreed. I was thinking highway, not other.

My guess would be transponders which tell the car the max speed and it
adjusts the chip. So, you could have transponders at a dragstrip which
tell the chip that max speed is 500 mph or whatever, which would free
the car to go at max.... on the Salt Flats it would say 1000mph and,
so far, nothing would be impeded.

Of course, the next step is automatic citations, which would free up
law enforcement for other duties (like guarding Dunkin Donuts as some
people seem to think is the only other thing we do).

.....or, it could be the lead in for auto piloting. The beginning of
the end for driving.
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Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
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Old 12-02-2005, 17:01   #5 (permalink)
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I remember my old 1990 Probe LX had an alarm that you could set when the
speed went above a defined limit.

What I'm envisioning is a bunch of people walking around with huge
muscles in their right legs and little shrively left legs from all the
workouts to push down the gas pedal. Everyone will be able to quickly
identify the lead-foot drivers!

And what would happen to the cars when they hit those hidden speed traps
where the speed limits suddenly drop by 30mph or more? Will the gas
pedal throw your foot back?




Rich wrote:
>
> And the first person to die because they couldn't go
> fast enough to avoid a problem will be the death of THIS
> device.
>
> NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Canadian auto regulators are testing a
> system that would enforce speed limits by making it harder to push
> down the car's gas pedal once the speed limit is passed, according to
> a newspaper report.
>
> The system being tested by Transport Canada, the Canadian equivalent
> of the U.S. Department of Transportation, uses a global positioning
> satellite device installed in the car to monitor the car's speed and
> position. If the car begins to significantly exceed the speed limit
> for the road on which it's travelling the system responds by making it
> harder to depress the gas pedal, according to a story posted on the
> Toronto Globe and Mail's Website.
>
> The pilot test, using 10 cars driven by volunteers, is believed to be
> the first in North America, although similar systems have been tested
> in several European countries, according to the newspaper.
>
> The agency is also testing another system that warns drivers with a
> voice alarm and a light whenever they start to speed, the newspaper
> said. Those systems are already on sale, according to the report. The
> company that makes the alarm device, the Otto Driving Companion, has
> already sold 400 of the units in Winnipeg alone, the newspaper said.
> Top of page

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Old 12-02-2005, 18:01   #6 (permalink)
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CBeech wrote:
> A governor wouldn't work in the same way. You could still go 65 in a 25
> zone. This would prevent this, as it incorporates the road you are
> travelling on into the data. This worries me. What happens if you are
> traveling off a public road, where it is legal to go any speed (like a
> dragstrip, or autox course)



Or lakes. Speed is unlimited on the lakes up here. I always thought it
would be cool to call Onstar from the middle of the lake with a flat
tire call.

Rob

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Old 12-02-2005, 23:01   #7 (permalink)
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On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 00:30:28 GMT, "J. Michael Gilker"
<NOSPAMjmgilker@san.rr.com> wrote:

>I remember my old 1990 Probe LX had an alarm that you could set when the
>speed went above a defined limit.


My 68' Camaro has a similar device tied into the speedometer. It's
called a speed warning indicator. Fancy terminology for a buzzer set
off when the mph needle passes the adjustable setpoint needle.

...Ron
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Old 12-03-2005, 20:01   #8 (permalink)
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"CBeech" <CBeech23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1133559298.112531.96580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>Would police have access to this information, as it would track position.


The unit would most likely be a GPS receiver only. Which only receives the
satellite signals and does not return any data to the satellites.


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Old 12-03-2005, 21:01   #9 (permalink)
Spike
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On 2 Dec 2005 14:03:36 -0800, "CBeech" <CBeech23@gmail.com> wrote:

>A governor wouldn't work in the same way. You could still go 65 in a 25
>zone. This would prevent this, as it incorporates the road you are
>travelling on into the data. This worries me. What happens if you are
>traveling off a public road, where it is legal to go any speed (like a
>dragstrip, or autox course) Does the system recognize this, or just use
>the road closest to where you are? Would police have access to this
>information, as it would track position. I hope this doesn't make it to
>the US
>
>CBeech

Police would not yet have access, however, under the Patriot Act, that
might happen in the future. Meanwhile, DO NOT travel with you cell
phone turned on if you don't want to be tracked.....

Of course, there may be some question as to whether the military has
the means to track any unit accessing the GPS system and home in with
a smart missile or bomb : 0 ) There is some paranoia for the
masses... LOL
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Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
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