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Old 03-29-2005, 13:01   #1 (permalink)
CobraJet
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Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

This is what a an engine *should* look like:

http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm

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Old 03-29-2005, 15:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

beautiful




"CobraJet" <68gtcs@streetracer.sfv> wrote in message
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> This is what a an engine *should* look like:
>
> http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm
>
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Old 03-29-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

CobraJet wrote:
> This is what a an engine *should* look like:
>
> http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm


It's really pretty. Too bad about those carbs,
though.

Dana

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Old 03-29-2005, 17:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

In article <o4-dnVYJDbouUNTfRVn-gg@comcast.com>, Dana H. Myers
<dana.myers@gmail.com> wrote:

> CobraJet wrote:
> > This is what a an engine *should* look like:
> >
> > http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm

>
> It's really pretty. Too bad about those carbs,
> though.
>
> Dana
>


Well, yes and no. The whole idea behind this engine is to make for
an easy, visually aesthetic retrofit into an early car. Most of the
average guys that might do that themselves want an uncluttered
powerplant with a oldies style. I say this is tits for that
application, providing you can wedge it into the target vehicle, which
might be a whole 'nother story. I can see it in a '34 without the side
panels up front.

BTW, this is the original Kar Kraft company that made the Boss 429
Mustangs for Ford in '69 and '70. I had no idea they were still around.
Credit to Johnny Johnson for scaring up the URL.

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Old 03-29-2005, 18:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:54:03 -0700, CobraJet <68gtcs@streetracer.sfv>
wrote:

> This is what a an engine *should* look like:
>
>http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm


Holy Crap! What a beautiful piece of work! Leave it to the folks at
KK to come up with this gem. Kinda like the ultimate blend of the old
and the new from the Blue Oval... I like it!

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Old 03-29-2005, 22:01   #6 (permalink)
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CobraJet wrote:
> In article <o4-dnVYJDbouUNTfRVn-gg@comcast.com>, Dana H. Myers
> <dana.myers@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>CobraJet wrote:
>>
>>> This is what a an engine *should* look like:
>>>
>>>http://www.karkraft.com/engines.htm

>>
>>It's really pretty. Too bad about those carbs,
>>though.
>>
>>Dana
>>

>
>
> Well, yes and no. The whole idea behind this engine is to make for
> an easy, visually aesthetic retrofit into an early car. Most of the
> average guys that might do that themselves want an uncluttered
> powerplant with a oldies style. I say this is tits for that
> application, providing you can wedge it into the target vehicle, which
> might be a whole 'nother story. I can see it in a '34 without the side
> panels up front.


Good point - if you're looking for a retro hot-rod look, yes.

> BTW, this is the original Kar Kraft company that made the Boss 429
> Mustangs for Ford in '69 and '70. I had no idea they were still around.
> Credit to Johnny Johnson for scaring up the URL.


You gotta love the Ford GT engine built to order for only $40k :-)

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Old 03-29-2005, 22:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

In article <290320051738439848%68gtcs@streetracer.sfv>, CobraJet wrote:

> Well, yes and no. The whole idea behind this engine is to make for
> an easy, visually aesthetic retrofit into an early car. Most of the
> average guys that might do that themselves want an uncluttered
> powerplant with a oldies style. I say this is tits for that
> application, providing you can wedge it into the target vehicle, which
> might be a whole 'nother story. I can see it in a '34 without the side
> panels up front.


For that kind of money we aren't talking 'average' guys. Also one can
make anything look pretty for that kind of cash. :)

The real promise is in the kit they mention for a regular production 4.6.
That would be nice. Because it would allow taking an engine without the
hassles of wire harnesses, sensors, etc from a recent production car and
puting it in an older car. Just buy that kit and all the sensor and
computer hassles go away. And for something 3 or more decades old, a carb
is just fine.

Think of it, just go to the salvage yard and buy a complete engine and
use it without worrying about hunting down a computer etc. No need to get
an entire donor car, etc.


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Old 03-30-2005, 12:05   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

In article <b6CdnXXY4cjPptffRVn-3A@comcast.com>, Brent P
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <290320051738439848%68gtcs@streetracer.sfv>, CobraJet wrote:
>
> > Well, yes and no. The whole idea behind this engine is to make for
> > an easy, visually aesthetic retrofit into an early car. Most of the
> > average guys that might do that themselves want an uncluttered
> > powerplant with a oldies style. I say this is tits for that
> > application, providing you can wedge it into the target vehicle, which
> > might be a whole 'nother story. I can see it in a '34 without the side
> > panels up front.

>
> For that kind of money we aren't talking 'average' guys. Also one can
> make anything look pretty for that kind of cash. :)


7 grand? Take a look around at crate motor prices, and you'll find
that's about in the middle, and it's a complete engine. The new 5.0
Ford race engine is 15 thou.

>
> The real promise is in the kit they mention for a regular production 4.6.
> That would be nice. Because it would allow taking an engine without the
> hassles of wire harnesses, sensors, etc from a recent production car and
> puting it in an older car. Just buy that kit and all the sensor and
> computer hassles go away. And for something 3 or more decades old, a carb
> is just fine.
>
> Think of it, just go to the salvage yard and buy a complete engine and
> use it without worrying about hunting down a computer etc. No need to get
> an entire donor car, etc.
>
>


The big problem with that is the size of the 4.6. It's just too big
to fit in any classics except for full-frame Galaxies and trucks, and
then it's too small at 281 inches to move those things. I know several
people have hacked up shock towers to get one in, just to be
"different", but that sure offsets any savings from the engine. The
idea of accessing all those 4.6 's in junk yards is still going to be a
problem, even with a carb kit.

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Old 03-30-2005, 14:02   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Carbed Turn-Key 5.4 Romeo

In article <300320051246227167%68gtcs@streetracer.sfv>, CobraJet wrote:
> In article <b6CdnXXY4cjPptffRVn-3A@comcast.com>, Brent P
><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <290320051738439848%68gtcs@streetracer.sfv>, CobraJet wrote:
>>
>> > Well, yes and no. The whole idea behind this engine is to make for
>> > an easy, visually aesthetic retrofit into an early car. Most of the
>> > average guys that might do that themselves want an uncluttered
>> > powerplant with a oldies style. I say this is tits for that
>> > application, providing you can wedge it into the target vehicle, which
>> > might be a whole 'nother story. I can see it in a '34 without the side
>> > panels up front.

>>
>> For that kind of money we aren't talking 'average' guys. Also one can
>> make anything look pretty for that kind of cash. :)

>
> 7 grand? Take a look around at crate motor prices, and you'll find
> that's about in the middle, and it's a complete engine. The new 5.0
> Ford race engine is 15 thou.


I didn't see the 7 grand price, just the complete motor at $39,500.00
My mistake, I scrolled down and thought it was all one and the same
thing. (no I didn't read it all, guess I should have) Just figured they
made one hell of an engine and carbed it.

>> The real promise is in the kit they mention for a regular production 4.6.
>> That would be nice. Because it would allow taking an engine without the
>> hassles of wire harnesses, sensors, etc from a recent production car and
>> puting it in an older car. Just buy that kit and all the sensor and
>> computer hassles go away. And for something 3 or more decades old, a carb
>> is just fine.
>>
>> Think of it, just go to the salvage yard and buy a complete engine and
>> use it without worrying about hunting down a computer etc. No need to get
>> an entire donor car, etc.


> The big problem with that is the size of the 4.6. It's just too big
> to fit in any classics except for full-frame Galaxies and trucks, and
> then it's too small at 281 inches to move those things. I know several
> people have hacked up shock towers to get one in, just to be
> "different", but that sure offsets any savings from the engine. The
> idea of accessing all those 4.6 's in junk yards is still going to be a
> problem, even with a carb kit.


That's going to be true of any mod motor.



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