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Old 06-14-2005, 20:01   #1 (permalink)
NoOption5L@aol.com
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Europe Loves The Mustang

So maybe you're tired of the dollar being worth about as much as a
Turkish lira - or just fed up with what you perceive as anti-American
sentiment in Europe.

Hate not, patriots. The Euros still want to be us, bad. Why else would
they start an online petition for Ford to bring the new Mustang to
their shores?

http://www.neuroticweb.com/mustang/

Do them a favor and go sign the petition right now. This is one case
where unabashed American might could just soften those hardened hearts
and minds in Old Europe.

Patrick
'93 Cobra

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Old 06-15-2005, 02:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Europe Loves The Mustang

On 14 Jun 2005 19:25:22 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:

>So maybe you're tired of the dollar being worth about as much as a
>Turkish lira - or just fed up with what you perceive as anti-American
>sentiment in Europe.
>
>Hate not, patriots. The Euros still want to be us, bad. Why else would
>they start an online petition for Ford to bring the new Mustang to
>their shores?
>
>http://www.neuroticweb.com/mustang/
>
>Do them a favor and go sign the petition right now.


Don't bother. you can buy them in Europe anyway.

It's just that the idea of a sports car with a van style solid rear
axle is a bit of a joke in Europe...

And American cars are famed for being badly built from cheap materials
(see "sports" cars with van style suspensions...).
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Old 06-15-2005, 19:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Europe Loves The Mustang

the guvnor wrote:
> On 14 Jun 2005 19:25:22 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:


> >So maybe you're tired of the dollar being worth about as much as a
> >Turkish lira - or just fed up with what you perceive as anti-American
> >sentiment in Europe.
> >
> >Hate not, patriots. The Euros still want to be us, bad. Why else would
> >they start an online petition for Ford to bring the new Mustang to
> >their shores?


> >http://www.neuroticweb.com/mustang/


> >Do them a favor and go sign the petition right now.


> Don't bother. you can buy them in Europe anyway.


> It's just that the idea of a sports car with a van style solid rear
> axle is a bit of a joke in Europe...


Until they drive one.

Kinda like the folks who dismiss the new Z06 because it still uses
pushrods... IDIOTS!

Patrick
'93 Cobra


> And American cars are famed for being badly built from cheap materials
> (see "sports" cars with van style suspensions...).


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Old 06-15-2005, 20:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Europe Loves The Mustang

the guvnor wrote:

> It's just that the idea of a sports car with a van style solid rear
> axle is a bit of a joke in Europe...


Unlike sports cars with tractor/trailer style diesel engines? Any
consumer cohort that would buy more diesel than gasoline BMW 3's, yet
sniff at an exciting car with a 3-valve 4.3 L V8 because of its solid
rear axle, is composed of lemmings and other ignorant idiots.

180 Out

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Old 06-16-2005, 03:01   #5 (permalink)
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On 15 Jun 2005 18:43:44 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:

>the guvnor wrote:
>> On 14 Jun 2005 19:25:22 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:

>
>> >So maybe you're tired of the dollar being worth about as much as a
>> >Turkish lira - or just fed up with what you perceive as anti-American
>> >sentiment in Europe.
>> >
>> >Hate not, patriots. The Euros still want to be us, bad. Why else would
>> >they start an online petition for Ford to bring the new Mustang to
>> >their shores?

>
>> >http://www.neuroticweb.com/mustang/

>
>> >Do them a favor and go sign the petition right now.

>
>> Don't bother. you can buy them in Europe anyway.

>
>> It's just that the idea of a sports car with a van style solid rear
>> axle is a bit of a joke in Europe...

>
>Until they drive one.


1950's pickup style suspension.

>Kinda like the folks who dismiss the new Z06 because it still uses
>pushrods... IDIOTS!


1950's pickup style engine.

Ever wondered why so few American built cars are sold around the
world?
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Europe Loves The Mustang


"the guvnor" <pizzalovingcriminal@allstars.gg> wrote in message
news:jeg2b1hm22p3fpeue06hpt2c7ci10dtriq@4ax.com...
> On 15 Jun 2005 18:43:44 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
>
>>the guvnor wrote:
>>> On 14 Jun 2005 19:25:22 -0700, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:

>>
>>> >So maybe you're tired of the dollar being worth about as much as a
>>> >Turkish lira - or just fed up with what you perceive as anti-American
>>> >sentiment in Europe.
>>> >
>>> >Hate not, patriots. The Euros still want to be us, bad. Why else would
>>> >they start an online petition for Ford to bring the new Mustang to
>>> >their shores?

>>
>>> >http://www.neuroticweb.com/mustang/

>>
>>> >Do them a favor and go sign the petition right now.

>>
>>> Don't bother. you can buy them in Europe anyway.

>>
>>> It's just that the idea of a sports car with a van style solid rear
>>> axle is a bit of a joke in Europe...

>>
>>Until they drive one.

>
> 1950's pickup style suspension.
>
>>Kinda like the folks who dismiss the new Z06 because it still uses
>>pushrods... IDIOTS!

>
> 1950's pickup style engine.
>
> Ever wondered why so few American built cars are sold around the
> world?



Well, SIZE is one reason. Not offering right hand drive in many models is
another. And those awful, bloody, import and engine-size taxes are a killer.
Not to mention that the parts pipelines are awfully awfully long. They
become the "foreign" car once outside the US - not to mention the computer
diagnostics equipment.

I have friends in the UK that put up with the inconvenience and drive
Corvettes, Cadillacs, Camaros and Firebirds.

I know one thing for sure: would LOVE to have a new Z06 in Europe and watch
that "ancient" push rod technology run alongside the Ferraris, Lamborghinis,
etc., at 1/3rd the price. I can also see driving up in a red Z06 at an AGIP
in Italy, a TOTAL in France -- take half an hour to pry the people off the
car. And park at a decent restaurant along the Amalfitana - wow!
Hehehehehee!

Joel Jacobs
Commerce, Texas/Naples, Italy



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Old 06-16-2005, 06:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Europe Loves The Mustang

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:34:51 -0500, "Joel Jacobs" <jjacobs@koyote.com>
wrote:

>> Ever wondered why so few American built cars are sold around the
>> world?

>
>
>Well, SIZE is one reason. Not offering right hand drive in many models is
>another. And those awful, bloody, import and engine-size taxes are a killer.


10% import duty??
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:01   #8 (permalink)
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:40:41 GMT, the guvnor
<pizzalovingcriminal@allstars.gg> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:34:51 -0500, "Joel Jacobs" <jjacobs@koyote.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> Ever wondered why so few American built cars are sold around the
>>> world?

>>
>>
>>Well, SIZE is one reason. Not offering right hand drive in many models is
>>another. And those awful, bloody, import and engine-size taxes are a killer.

>
>10% import duty??


Those socialist amerikaners have a funny slant on things, don't they.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:01   #9 (permalink)
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:54:12 +1000, Kenshlock de la Fehrêtte
<slapsableschubbyface@forever> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:40:41 GMT, the guvnor
><pizzalovingcriminal@allstars.gg> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:34:51 -0500, "Joel Jacobs" <jjacobs@koyote.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> Ever wondered why so few American built cars are sold around the
>>>> world?
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, SIZE is one reason. Not offering right hand drive in many models is
>>>another. And those awful, bloody, import and engine-size taxes are a killer.

>>
>>10% import duty??

>
>Those socialist amerikaners have a funny slant on things, don't they.


Note how Europeans are free to import any car (not that anyone does)
but Americans cannot import any car they choose...
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:01   #10 (permalink)
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"the guvnor" <pizzalovingcriminal@allstars.gg> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:34:51 -0500, "Joel Jacobs" <jjacobs@koyote.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Ever wondered why so few American built cars are sold around the
>>> world?

>>
>>
>>Well, SIZE is one reason. Not offering right hand drive in many models is
>>another. And those awful, bloody, import and engine-size taxes are a
>>killer.

>
> 10% import duty??


Perhaps the UK, not so in Italy and other countries on the Continent. The
taxes will take your breath - not to mention the tax on the displacement of
engine.


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