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Old 01-05-2006, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
John
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Fact or fiction?

The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years" by
Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.

In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early '68
Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their words
are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the urban
legend lives on.

HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as an
option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the intake
with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers out
of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."

Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?

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Old 01-06-2006, 12:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?


"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
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> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years"
> by
> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>
> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early
> '68
> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their
> words
> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the
> urban
> legend lives on.
>
> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as
> an
> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the
> intake
> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers
> out
> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>
> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>
> --
> John - ThunderSnake #59
> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> Wide Ratio Toploader
> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> Acapulco Blue
>
>
>
>i was at a SAAC convention back in the early 80's and Ol' Shel was the
>guest of honor. His speech at the dinner included a comment about there
>being more 427's at the meet than he made....i always heard that it was
>between 6 and 10 mustang bodies that received the side oiler. the rest were
>earmarked for cobra's



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Old 01-06-2006, 17:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

There were a few GT-500 produced with the 427 in 1968. As I remember it,
they were rated at 390 H.P. This engine very different from the 1967 427. I
think the 68 engine was a center oilier, as the side oilier engine was never
drilled for hydraulic lifters. The 68 engine did not have the same cylinder
heads. Is far as I know, Ford never built a 68 Mustang with the 427. There
were a number of them produced with the 428 Cobra Jets. The 427 was intended
as a race engine and extremely expensive to produce.
I had a 1967 "W" code 427 Fairlane, one of 7 built. I bought it in 1969 at
the height of the Super Car era. That car was clearly faster than almost all
of the super cars of the time. The only cars really in it's class was the
426 Hemi Mopars, the 454 Vettes.




"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
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> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years"
> by
> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>
> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early
> '68
> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their
> words
> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the
> urban
> legend lives on.
>
> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as
> an
> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the
> intake
> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers
> out
> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>
> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>
> --
> John - ThunderSnake #59
> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> Wide Ratio Toploader
> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> Acapulco Blue
>
>
>
>



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Old 01-06-2006, 20:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

There were no W code Shelby Mustang's, per Shelby's own shop records.
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Old 01-07-2006, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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"66 6F HCS" <69ta_mustang@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> There were no W code Shelby Mustang's, per Shelby's own shop records.


Where did you learn this?

Kevin Marti and I swapped e-mails a few years back about there being no
W-code Mustangs. We never discussed Shelbys. Does his data include the
Shelbys?

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Old 01-07-2006, 07:01   #6 (permalink)
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"walt peifer" <lensman@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>i was at a SAAC convention back in the early 80's and Ol' Shel was the
>>guest of honor. His speech at the dinner included a comment about there
>>being more 427's at the meet than he made....i always heard that it was
>>between 6 and 10 mustang bodies that received the side oiler. the rest
>>were earmarked for cobra's


Sounds interesting Walt. I'm taking the familt to Tampa for Spring Break
this March/April. Care to talk Mustangs over a beer or four?

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Old 01-07-2006, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
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"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
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> "66 6F HCS" <69ta_mustang@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:xJOdnWBJgIN9qiLenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> There were no W code Shelby Mustang's, per Shelby's own shop records.

>
> Where did you learn this?
>
> Kevin Marti and I swapped e-mails a few years back about there being no
> W-code Mustangs. We never discussed Shelbys. Does his data include the
> Shelbys?


I learned it from Bill S. I knew about the Marti angle too, but Bill S.
claims to have seen at least ONE W code mustang whether Marti says it exists
or not. I reserve judgment.
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Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/


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