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Old 04-02-2005, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
I'm punoneboi
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fordvehicles.com finally updated


although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
Fools??)

damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
$4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
much more do you think it costs to build the
8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
a 300-C for less money?



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Old 04-02-2005, 18:01   #2 (permalink)
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"I'm punoneboi" <PunOne@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
> their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
> around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
> Fools??)
>
> damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
> $4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
> much more do you think it costs to build the
> 8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
> a 300-C for less money?


Reasons to get the V8. 1. Resale value. 2. Bragging rights. 3. Live in
small rural town and related to sheriff.

Under current US urban driving conditions with congestion, road design and
speed limits the V6 with a stick is probably plenty of car. I have an 89 5.0
LX vert and probably will get a 05 or 06 V6. I love my current car and it is
the least expensive car I have every owned. While it still looks almost new
it is getting old and I know that plastic trim parts are becoming less
available. Compared to my current car, with a new V6, I will get almost the
same power, airbags, ABS and better economy. I think the V6 looks "cleaner".
Some of the money I save will go into suspension mods (which every stock
mustang needs). Just my opinion but something to think about.
Howard
89 5.0 LX vert with drivetrain and suspension mods.


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Old 04-02-2005, 22:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: fordvehicles.com finally updated

On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:53:54 GMT, "Howard Nelson"
<htnelsonvip@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
>"I'm punoneboi" <PunOne@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:8881-424F2E72-52@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
>>
>> although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
>> their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
>> around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
>> Fools??)
>>
>> damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
>> $4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
>> much more do you think it costs to build the
>> 8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
>> a 300-C for less money?

>
>Reasons to get the V8. 1. Resale value. 2. Bragging rights. 3. Live in
>small rural town and related to sheriff.
>
>Under current US urban driving conditions with congestion, road design and
>speed limits the V6 with a stick is probably plenty of car.


Except compared to just about any other 6 on the road.
-Rich

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Old 04-02-2005, 23:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: fordvehicles.com finally updated

I'm punoneboi wrote:

> although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
> their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
> around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
> Fools??)
>
> damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
> $4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
> much more do you think it costs to build the
> 8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
> a 300-C for less money?
>
>
>

First off, forget about what makes sense. Which
car gives you a woody, the Mustang or the 300C? That's
the one to buy, and no other.
As for 6 vs 8, there's more to it than just 2
cylinders. My first thought was that the 6 was an
excellent motor, and if you add a blower you'll
outperform a stock 8. But take a close look at the
fine print.
The V8 GT package has a lot more going for it
than just a motor. It's things like sway bars,
anti-lock brakes, trim options, better rear suspension,
etc. Forget the v6 unless it's for your grandma.

--
..boB
1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project

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Old 04-02-2005, 23:01   #5 (permalink)
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".boB" <bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> I'm punoneboi wrote:
>
> > although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
> > their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
> > around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
> > Fools??)
> >
> > damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
> > $4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
> > much more do you think it costs to build the
> > 8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
> > a 300-C for less money?
> >
> >
> >

> First off, forget about what makes sense. Which
> car gives you a woody, the Mustang or the 300C? That's
> the one to buy, and no other.
> As for 6 vs 8, there's more to it than just 2
> cylinders. My first thought was that the 6 was an
> excellent motor, and if you add a blower you'll
> outperform a stock 8. But take a close look at the
> fine print.
> The V8 GT package has a lot more going for it
> than just a motor. It's things like sway bars,
> anti-lock brakes, trim options, better rear suspension,
> etc. Forget the v6 unless it's for your grandma.
>
> --
> .boB
> 1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
> 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
> 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
> 1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project


If this is true (I don't doubt you I just couldn't get that info from the
Ford website specs) then the V8 is certainly the better choice.

Howard


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Old 04-03-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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".boB" <bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net> wrote in message
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> I'm punoneboi wrote:
>
> > although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
> > their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
> > around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
> > Fools??)
> >
> > damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
> > $4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
> > much more do you think it costs to build the
> > 8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
> > a 300-C for less money?
> >
> >
> >

> First off, forget about what makes sense. Which
> car gives you a woody, the Mustang or the 300C? That's
> the one to buy, and no other.
> As for 6 vs 8, there's more to it than just 2
> cylinders. My first thought was that the 6 was an
> excellent motor, and if you add a blower you'll
> outperform a stock 8. But take a close look at the
> fine print.
> The V8 GT package has a lot more going for it
> than just a motor. It's things like sway bars,
> anti-lock brakes, trim options, better rear suspension,
> etc. Forget the v6 unless it's for your grandma.
>
> --
> .boB
> 1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
> 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
> 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
> 1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project


If this is true (I don't doubt you I just couldn't get that info from the
Ford website specs) then the V8 is certainly the better choice.

Howard


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Old 04-03-2005, 08:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: fordvehicles.com finally updated


no doubt that there is no justification for the big price
differential between 6 and 8.......but that's how car companies make
their money.

it's a question of whether the fun factor is worth it to
you.......the miles-per-gallon aren't that much different.....insurance
on an 8 isn't too bad in non-high-theft communities. don't know how
much more replacement tires will be for the 8: certainly less than the
resale value benefit.

one thing I like about both engines is that they use timing chains,
not belts ........but.....I like the fact that the 8 has aluminum block
and heads.......not bi-metal like the 6 so fewer wories about different
coefficients of expansion.

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Old 04-03-2005, 12:02   #8 (permalink)
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"Howard Nelson" <htnelsonvip@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> ".boB" <bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:424f851f$0$83269$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>> I'm punoneboi wrote:
>>
>> > although Edmunds, NADA and others have had 05 convertible prices on
>> > their sites for months, didn't believe it until Fomoco FINALLY got
>> > around to updating their site yesterday (any significance to April
>> > Fools??)
>> >
>> > damn.....was hoping the others were wrong - and there really isn't
>> > $4834 difference (sticker) between comparably equipped V6s & V8s. How
>> > much more do you think it costs to build the
>> > 8?,,,,,,,,$200......$400....?????? Or does it make better sense to get
>> > a 300-C for less money?
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> First off, forget about what makes sense. Which
>> car gives you a woody, the Mustang or the 300C? That's
>> the one to buy, and no other.
>> As for 6 vs 8, there's more to it than just 2
>> cylinders. My first thought was that the 6 was an
>> excellent motor, and if you add a blower you'll
>> outperform a stock 8. But take a close look at the
>> fine print.
>> The V8 GT package has a lot more going for it
>> than just a motor. It's things like sway bars,
>> anti-lock brakes, trim options, better rear suspension,
>> etc. Forget the v6 unless it's for your grandma.
>>
>> --
>> .boB
>> 1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
>> 2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
>> 1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
>> 1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project

>
> If this is true (I don't doubt you I just couldn't get that info from the
> Ford website specs) then the V8 is certainly the better choice.
>
> Howard


http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mus...eatures/specs/
On the specifications page, up top, click the link for Manufacturer's Specs
(PDF), and get more than you ever wanted to know.

dwight


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Old 04-03-2005, 13:01   #9 (permalink)
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>
> http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mus...eatures/specs/
> On the specifications page, up top, click the link for Manufacturer's

Specs
> (PDF), and get more than you ever wanted to know.
>
> dwight


Very helpful information. V8 GT manual has stronger tranny, 3.5 vs 3.3 rear
end, 2mpg worse mileage, stiffer springs, thicker front stabilizer bar, rear
stabilizer bar, slightly greater swept area on discs, 140mph speedo, 130
more pounds, greater turning radius and standard antilock brakes. If you add
antilock brakes onto the V6 the MSRP cost difference is $4775. Add
aftermarket rear sway bar to the V6 and suspension setup isn't that
different. I will admit that real world drivng differences may be
substantial. The choice of brakes, sway bar thickness and spring rate on the
GT may create a very balanced handling package that wouldn't be duplicated
by addition of sway bar to back of V6.

Cheers
Howard


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