ironrod focks up alternators - Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars
Ford Forum Ford Forum

» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
ยป Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > Fordforums Community > USENET NewsGroups > rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Auto Loans Garage Mark Forums Read Auto Escrow

FordForums.com is the premier Ford Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-14-2005, 01:21   #1 (permalink)
2canchew@yahoo.com
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
ironrod focks up alternators

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your battery is
>capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output. The last
>time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out the
>voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line, if it is
>not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
>


lmfao

alternator sense line
LMFAO
what a moron
its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
measure voltage at battery
if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked


ford does not have an alternator
the shop manual call s the generators

get some certification

LMFAO
h
u
r
c
a
s
t

  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-14-2005, 01:21   #2 (permalink)
ironrod
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

Actually you got your head up your ass, alternators are not as primitive as
their generator style counterparts. Of the three wires that come from unit
the heavy wire goes back to the battery and supplies the charging current,
of the two smaller wires one goes to a resistor bridge which is used to hold
the warning light circuit cut off, voltage feedback through this wire is
also used to energize the field coils so as to allow the alternator to start
charging at lower RPM's. The third wire is a sense line, whose purpose is
to measure the voltage drop between the source and load. It is the voltage
feeding back through this line that tells the regulator what the output
should be, it works as kind of a gate keeper, the higher the voltage along
the sense line, the lower the output to the battery. Therefore, if the
sense line is not connected the regulator has no reference and defaults to
maximum output.
You're right by the way, I DON'T have any certification. I learned all this
just for the hell of it. If you paid good money to go to a technical school
and still came out this stupid you might want to ask for a refund!

<2canchew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3lema1t8ao9e9rvamp153gf51bscjof2p7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your battery is
> >capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output. The

last
> >time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out the
> >voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line, if it

is
> >not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
> >

>
> lmfao
>
> alternator sense line
> LMFAO
> what a moron
> its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
> measure voltage at battery
> if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked
>
>
> ford does not have an alternator
> the shop manual call s the generators
>
> get some certification
>
> LMFAO
> h
> u
> r
> c
> a
> s
> t
>



  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:23   #3 (permalink)
2canchew@yahoo.com
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 04:15:57 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>Actually you got your head up your ass, alternators are not as primitive as
>their generator style counterparts. Of the three wires that come from unit
>the heavy wire goes back to the battery and supplies the charging current,
>of the two smaller wires one goes to a resistor bridge which is used to hold
>the warning light circuit cut off, voltage feedback through this wire is
>also used to energize the field coils so as to allow the alternator to start
>charging at lower RPM's. The third wire is a sense line, whose purpose is
>to measure the voltage drop between the source and load. It is the voltage
>feeding back through this line that tells the regulator what the output
>should be, it works as kind of a gate keeper, the higher the voltage along
>the sense line, the lower the output to the battery. Therefore, if the
>sense line is not connected the regulator has no reference and defaults to
>maximum output.
>You're right by the way, I DON'T have any certification. I learned all this
>just for the hell of it. If you paid good money to go to a technical school
>and still came out this stupid you might want to ask for a refund!
>


i am still looking for a sense line
lmfao

hurc ast
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:23   #4 (permalink)
Sarah Czepiel
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

>On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:05:03 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:

>i am still looking for wenis
>lmfao
>
>hurc ast



---

On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:29:16 -0400, Nick aka the Guvnor (if only I were not
such an OBESE "irristable" Jigglie Wigglie I might be able to keep up with
the young and good looking Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> ) wrote:

Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> manages to always make
me look like an imbecile. I'm so fat and UGLY!
It's so unfair (sob).

http://img147.echo.cx/img147/7369/guvnor4pn.jpg

-

"George \"Pops\" Foster" <Jazzy@bass.gov>
Message-ID: <rTFoe.19423$HP1.1806@fe08.lga> addressing Guvner:

"All I've noted was how sarah ridiculed you yet again."

---
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:23   #5 (permalink)
2canchew@yahoo.com
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:32:46 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>
>>An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your battery is
>>capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output. The last
>>time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out the
>>voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line, if it is
>>not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
>>

>
>lmfao
>
>alternator sense line
>LMFAO
>what a moron
>its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
>measure voltage at battery
>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked
>
>
>ford does not have an alternator
>the shop manual call s the generators
>
>get some certification
>
>LMFAO
>h
>u
>r
>c
>a
>s
>t


lets turn this up a notch
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:23   #6 (permalink)
Sarah Czepiel
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

>On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 22:47:45 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>lets turn me upside down and spank me



---

On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:29:16 -0400, Nick aka the Guvnor (if only I were not
such an OBESE "irristable" Jigglie Wigglie I might be able to keep up with
the young and good looking Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> ) wrote:

Sarah Czepiel <ninety7gt@cox.net> manages to always make
me look like an imbecile. I'm so fat and UGLY!
It's so unfair (sob).

http://img147.echo.cx/img147/7369/guvnor4pn.jpg

-

"George \"Pops\" Foster" <Jazzy@bass.gov>
Message-ID: <rTFoe.19423$HP1.1806@fe08.lga> addressing Guvner:

"All I've noted was how sarah ridiculed you yet again."

---
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:24   #7 (permalink)
ArchTaib
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

what's there to turn up? everything there makes sense.. i think. battery
provides power to the car, alternator keeps batter charged, voltage
regualtor keeps the power output in check, and there will be a sensor there
somewhere to signal the guage on the dash what to display. the only thing
that doesn't make sense is the term 'generator'.. i'm not sure why a shop
manual would call it that, that's not what an alternator does. an generator
is a simple device, really.. and incredibly inneficient and weak. i don't
think they have used generators in cars in more than 25 years.

an alternator, on the other hand, is immeasurably more efficient when
compared to a generator, has slip rings instead of commutators, and produces
up to 120 volts DC via a voltage regulator and state regualtor.

">>measure voltage at battery >>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is
ocked" --true.. but the regualtor is part of the alternator. thusly, the
alternator is "focked"



<2canchew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hr2sa1lhghr89mppd4nc9lgghvrad60umt@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:32:46 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your battery is
>>>capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output. The
>>>last
>>>time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out the
>>>voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line, if it
>>>is
>>>not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
>>>

>>
>>lmfao
>>
>>alternator sense line
>>LMFAO
>>what a moron
>>its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
>>measure voltage at battery
>>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked
>>
>>
>>ford does not have an alternator
>>the shop manual call s the generators
>>
>>get some certification
>>
>>LMFAO
>>h
>>u
>>r
>>c
>>a
>>s
>>t

>
> lets turn this up a notch



  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:24   #8 (permalink)
Steve W.
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators


"ArchTaib" <archtaib@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z6pre.1668561$8l.1200624@pd7tw1no...
> what's there to turn up? everything there makes sense.. i think.

battery
> provides power to the car, alternator keeps batter charged, voltage
> regualtor keeps the power output in check, and there will be a sensor

there
> somewhere to signal the guage on the dash what to display. the only

thing
> that doesn't make sense is the term 'generator'.. i'm not sure why a

shop
> manual would call it that, that's not what an alternator does. an

generator
> is a simple device, really.. and incredibly inneficient and weak. i

don't
> think they have used generators in cars in more than 25 years.
>
> an alternator, on the other hand, is immeasurably more efficient when
> compared to a generator, has slip rings instead of commutators, and

produces
> up to 120 volts DC via a voltage regulator and state regualtor.


Actually the alternator can produce much more than 120 volts AC. DC is
what you get after that AC is run through the rectifier diodes inside
the alternator. The regulator uses a remote sensing wire to keep the
voltage in the vehicle at 13.8-14 volts. That remote wire is used to
counteract the voltage drop that occurs through the long wire runs and
multiple connections in the wiring harness. That is why you will usually
find low voltage in vehicles that use a one wire alternator instead of a
conventional 3 wire. The voltage lost in the wiring can be 1-1.5 volts
depending on length of the run.


>
> ">>measure voltage at battery >>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is
> ocked" --true.. but the regualtor is part of the alternator.

thusly, the
> alternator is "focked"
>
>
>
> <2canchew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hr2sa1lhghr89mppd4nc9lgghvrad60umt@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:32:46 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your

battery is
> >>>capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output.

The
> >>>last
> >>>time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out

the
> >>>voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line,

if it
> >>>is
> >>>not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
> >>>
> >>
> >>lmfao
> >>
> >>alternator sense line
> >>LMFAO
> >>what a moron
> >>its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
> >>measure voltage at battery
> >>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked
> >>
> >>
> >>ford does not have an alternator
> >>the shop manual call s the generators
> >>
> >>get some certification
> >>
> >>LMFAO
> >>h
> >>u
> >>r
> >>c
> >>a
> >>s
> >>t

> >
> > lets turn this up a notch

>
>
>




----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups
----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:24   #9 (permalink)
ArchTaib
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

i meant AC, hehe sorry ;) but i didn't know that it could be more.

so far we seem to be in agreement on the usage of an alternator... it's been
an informative post for all, i hope =)



"Steve W." <Dugdug56@what.com> wrote in message
news:42ae3856$1_2@spool9-west.superfeed.net...
>
> "ArchTaib" <archtaib@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:z6pre.1668561$8l.1200624@pd7tw1no...
>> what's there to turn up? everything there makes sense.. i think.

> battery
>> provides power to the car, alternator keeps batter charged, voltage
>> regualtor keeps the power output in check, and there will be a sensor

> there
>> somewhere to signal the guage on the dash what to display. the only

> thing
>> that doesn't make sense is the term 'generator'.. i'm not sure why a

> shop
>> manual would call it that, that's not what an alternator does. an

> generator
>> is a simple device, really.. and incredibly inneficient and weak. i

> don't
>> think they have used generators in cars in more than 25 years.
>>
>> an alternator, on the other hand, is immeasurably more efficient when
>> compared to a generator, has slip rings instead of commutators, and

> produces
>> up to 120 volts DC via a voltage regulator and state regualtor.

>
> Actually the alternator can produce much more than 120 volts AC. DC is
> what you get after that AC is run through the rectifier diodes inside
> the alternator. The regulator uses a remote sensing wire to keep the
> voltage in the vehicle at 13.8-14 volts. That remote wire is used to
> counteract the voltage drop that occurs through the long wire runs and
> multiple connections in the wiring harness. That is why you will usually
> find low voltage in vehicles that use a one wire alternator instead of a
> conventional 3 wire. The voltage lost in the wiring can be 1-1.5 volts
> depending on length of the run.
>
>
>>
>> ">>measure voltage at battery >>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is
>> ocked" --true.. but the regualtor is part of the alternator.

> thusly, the
>> alternator is "focked"
>>
>>
>>
>> <2canchew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hr2sa1lhghr89mppd4nc9lgghvrad60umt@4ax.com...
>> > On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:32:46 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your

> battery is
>> >>>capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output.

> The
>> >>>last
>> >>>time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out

> the
>> >>>voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line,

> if it
>> >>>is
>> >>>not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>lmfao
>> >>
>> >>alternator sense line
>> >>LMFAO
>> >>what a moron
>> >>its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
>> >>measure voltage at battery
>> >>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>ford does not have an alternator
>> >>the shop manual call s the generators
>> >>
>> >>get some certification
>> >>
>> >>LMFAO
>> >>h
>> >>u
>> >>r
>> >>c
>> >>a
>> >>s
>> >>t
>> >
>> > lets turn this up a notch

>>
>>
>>

>
>
>
> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
> News==----
> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+
> Newsgroups
> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption
> =----



  Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2005, 01:24   #10 (permalink)
Spike
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: ironrod focks up alternators

Mustang used the generator in 1964.5 models and made the switch to the
alternator around 1965.

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:00:31 GMT, "ArchTaib" <archtaib@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>what's there to turn up? everything there makes sense.. i think. battery
>provides power to the car, alternator keeps batter charged, voltage
>regualtor keeps the power output in check, and there will be a sensor there
>somewhere to signal the guage on the dash what to display. the only thing
>that doesn't make sense is the term 'generator'.. i'm not sure why a shop
>manual would call it that, that's not what an alternator does. an generator
>is a simple device, really.. and incredibly inneficient and weak. i don't
>think they have used generators in cars in more than 25 years.
>
>an alternator, on the other hand, is immeasurably more efficient when
>compared to a generator, has slip rings instead of commutators, and produces
>up to 120 volts DC via a voltage regulator and state regualtor.
>
>">>measure voltage at battery >>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is
>ocked" --true.. but the regualtor is part of the alternator. thusly, the
>alternator is "focked"
>
>
>
><2canchew@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:hr2sa1lhghr89mppd4nc9lgghvrad60umt@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:32:46 GMT, 2canchew@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:46:07 GMT, "ironrod" <cmuza@worldnet.att.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>An alternator is capable of producing more voltage than your battery is
>>>>capable of handing. The regulator works by limiting the output. The
>>>>last
>>>>time my brushes went the problem manifested itself by maxing out the
>>>>voltmeter. Another place to look is at the alternator sense line, if it
>>>>is
>>>>not hooked up correctly it could be signaling for max output.
>>>>
>>>
>>>lmfao
>>>
>>>alternator sense line
>>>LMFAO
>>>what a moron
>>>its called regulated voltage ya FOCTARD
>>>measure voltage at battery
>>>if its 14.5 or more the regualtor is focked
>>>
>>>
>>>ford does not have an alternator
>>>the shop manual call s the generators
>>>
>>>get some certification
>>>
>>>LMFAO
>>>h
>>>u
>>>r
>>>c
>>>a
>>>s
>>>t

>>
>> lets turn this up a notch

>


Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Ford Forums - Mustang Forum, Ford Trucks, Ford Focus and Ford Cars > Fordforums Community > USENET NewsGroups > rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:44.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.