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Old 02-06-2006, 19:01   #31 (permalink)
Wound Up
 
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Re: JeepTANG

WindsorFox wrote:
> Wound Up wrote:
>
>> Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
>>
>>> KJ.Kate wrote:
>>>
>>>> The best of both worlds?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=128531
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That thing looks like it is squatting to take a dump. Now here is
>>> the best of both worlds:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/byjfp
>>>
>>>

>>
>> - You could not pay me to drive something with that profile that fast
>>
>> - It IS an abomination, a waste, and it's hideous, to me
>>
>> - Porschephiles make me want to vomit, which is a nice segue into this:
>>

>
> Just for the record, if anyone wants to pay me to drive a turbo
> Cayenne daily, I will happily oblige.
>
>


I suppose there could be worse things...

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Old 02-06-2006, 21:01   #32 (permalink)
Michael Johnson, PE
 
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Re: JeepTANG

Wound Up wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
>> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>>
>>> 351CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become
>>>>> less inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have
>>>>> enough time
>>>>> and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I spent tons of money
>>>>> building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and 460 rwtq and then Ford
>>>>> comes along with the Terminator Cobras and I could have had that car
>>>>> for the same money I spent on the '89 over the years. This is why
>>>>> the GT500 is so appealing to me. Ford is now building Mustangs that
>>>>> are hella mean right from the factory and with minimal after market
>>>>> tweaking they will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably.
>>>>> That is no easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500 vert
>>>>> with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job filling that
>>>>> niche.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>>
>>>> Me Too...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things. I
>>> do understand your perspective, because there are times when it's
>>> tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it

>>
>>
>> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
>> logarithmically with age.

>
> So I understand...


...... and in the coming years you will experience it personally. :) I
was so hardcore on DIY repairs I had a Triumph Spitfire as a daily
driver for four years in my early twenties. Every six months I had to
change all the U-joints in the rear or they would break the yokes with
catastrophic results (one time they broke and the ass of the car jumped
3' into the air at 50mph). Also, changing the clutch in a Spitfire is
an ordeal that requires half the car's interior to be removed to take
out the transmission. It can't be taken out through the bottom because
of the wishbone frame. On the bright side that car would handle like a
go-cart but with 56 hp it couldn't get out of its own way.

The latest round of mods to my '89 LX has taken what was left of my DIY
willpower. To make the car reliable is more work than I care to do.
Its next makeover will involve a 427 ci stroked Windsor, Maximum
Motorsports complete suspension and killer brakes. I just want to drop
the car off at a speed shop and in a few months pick it back up
finished. I don't even like to wash and wax cars in the driveway
anymore. Isn't that sad?
 
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Old 02-06-2006, 21:01   #33 (permalink)
Michael Johnson, PE
 
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Re: JeepTANG

Joe wrote:
> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>
>> 351CJ wrote:
>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become less
>>>> inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have enough time
>>>> and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I spent tons of money
>>>> building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and 460 rwtq and then Ford
>>>> comes along with the Terminator Cobras and I could have had that car
>>>> for the same money I spent on the '89 over the years. This is why
>>>> the GT500 is so appealing to me. Ford is now building Mustangs that
>>>> are hella mean right from the factory and with minimal after market
>>>> tweaking they will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably.
>>>> That is no easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500 vert
>>>> with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job filling that
>>>> niche.
>>>
>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>
>>> Me Too...
>>>
>>>

>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things. I
>> do understand your perspective, because there are times when it's
>> tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it

>
> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
> logarithmically with age.


As the time we have left on this rock decreases I find myself less
patient about receiving gratification. Basically, I want my MTV and I
want it right now because I may not be around tomorrow. ;)
 
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Old 02-06-2006, 21:01   #34 (permalink)
Michael Johnson, PE
 
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Re: JeepTANG

351CJ wrote:
> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:55SdnVSzHdQm7XreRVn-sw@giganews.com...
>> Well in the case of the GT500 when the price reaches a certain level it is
>> no longer the best. I was disappointed to read that Ford is not putting
>> the twin screw blower on them and instead look to be opting for an
>> Eaton/Roots. I hope the people writing the articles don't know what they
>> are talking about and it really is a twin screw like the one on the Ford
>> GT. It might be one of the moves Ford made to keep the car affordable.
>> Either way I still want one, if the price is reasonable (say less than
>> $55k for a convertible). Plus, I'm sure Kenne Bell will be making a kit
>> for them rather quickly. :)
>>

>
> Well it is still completely up in the air, they absolutely would not open
> the hood at the auto show. When I asked, the Ford Motor Company speaker
> even said that the hood latch release was disabled.


I couldn't get an answer at the DC Auto Show either. Here is a quote
from an article on Ford's web site:

"The engine is force-fed an air-and-fuel mixture via a "Roots-type"
supercharger providing 8.5 pounds per square inch of boost."

That isn't very encouraging. I hope the author doesn't know the
difference between a twin screw and a Root's blower. I can easily see
Ford using an Eaton/Root's to save a few bucks though.
 
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Old 02-06-2006, 21:01   #35 (permalink)
KJ.Kate
 
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Re: JeepTANG

LMAO!
Well, I got ya stirred up a little, that's what I was after.

The "Best of" part was tongue in cheek.
You knew that.

KJK


"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal> wrote in message
news:43E6F3EF.6040807@your.disposal...
: Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
: > KJ.Kate wrote:
: >
: >> The best of both worlds?
: >>
: >> http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=128531
: >
: >
: > That thing looks like it is squatting to take a dump. Now here is the
: > best of both worlds:
: >
: > http://tinyurl.com/byjfp
: >
: >
:
: - You could not pay me to drive something with that profile that fast
:
: - It IS an abomination, a waste, and it's hideous, to me
:
: - Porschephiles make me want to vomit, which is a nice segue into this:
:
: - Every time I see one, I am reminded of the snippet of the Bobby Brown
: reality show I walked on. Whitney's bowels were impacted, and Bobby
: explained to the cameras that it was an expression of (and I quote)
: "black love" to stick his hand up her ass, and manually remove the
: problematic feces. What does this have to do with the Cayenne? They
: own one, and her vulgar, haggard, drugged-out constipated ass sits in
: its seats. Ugh.
:
: Porsche should pay that foul couple to go soil another vehicle. I am
: forever horrified, and the Cayenne is forever equated with that mental
: picture. I see one, and immediately think "black love". Gew.
:
: Chew on that if you can. If not, just throw up. I just almost did,
again.
:
: Disclaimer - this has nothing in particular to do with black people. It
: has to do with those particular two black people.
:
: What the hell does any of this have to do with a Mustang? Oh, right,
: that thing out of Greek mythology Kate posted a link to.
:
: Shame on you, Katie, you are filling this place with all kids of awful!
:
: ;^)
:
: --
: Wound Up
: ThunderSnake #65
:
: AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk
:
:
:
:


 
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Old 02-06-2006, 23:01   #36 (permalink)
351CJ
 
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Re: JeepTANG


"Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
news:UqOdnfLSV_Izg3XenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Wound Up wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
>>> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>>>
>>>> 351CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become less
>>>>>> inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have enough time
>>>>>> and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I spent tons of money
>>>>>> building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and 460 rwtq and then Ford
>>>>>> comes along with the Terminator Cobras and I could have had that car
>>>>>> for the same money I spent on the '89 over the years. This is why
>>>>>> the GT500 is so appealing to me. Ford is now building Mustangs that
>>>>>> are hella mean right from the factory and with minimal after market
>>>>>> tweaking they will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably.
>>>>>> That is no easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500 vert
>>>>>> with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job filling that
>>>>>> niche.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Me Too...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things. I
>>>> do understand your perspective, because there are times when it's
>>>> tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it
>>>
>>>
>>> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
>>> logarithmically with age.

>>
>> So I understand...

>
> ..... and in the coming years you will experience it personally. :) I was
> so hardcore on DIY repairs I had a Triumph Spitfire as a daily driver for
> four years in my early twenties. Every six months I had to change all the
> U-joints in the rear or they would break the yokes with catastrophic
> results (one time they broke and the ass of the car jumped 3' into the air
> at 50mph). Also, changing the clutch in a Spitfire is an ordeal that
> requires half the car's interior to be removed to take out the
> transmission. It can't be taken out through the bottom because of the
> wishbone frame. On the bright side that car would handle like a go-cart
> but with 56 hp it couldn't get out of its own way.
>
> The latest round of mods to my '89 LX has taken what was left of my DIY
> willpower. To make the car reliable is more work than I care to do. Its
> next makeover will involve a 427 ci stroked Windsor, Maximum Motorsports
> complete suspension and killer brakes. I just want to drop the car off at
> a speed shop and in a few months pick it back up finished. I don't even
> like to wash and wax cars in the driveway anymore. Isn't that sad?


I thought it was just me. :-)
I find it harder and harder to wash mine too. Good thing I only have the
front half of my new F-450 flatbed to worry about...


 
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Old 02-07-2006, 17:01   #37 (permalink)
Joe
 
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Re: JeepTANG

"Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in
news:UqOdne3SV_LOgnXenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com:

> Joe wrote:
>> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
>> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>>
>>> 351CJ wrote:
>>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become

less
>>>>> inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have enough

time
>>>>> and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I spent tons of

money
>>>>> building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and 460 rwtq and then Ford
>>>>> comes along with the Terminator Cobras and I could have had that

car
>>>>> for the same money I spent on the '89 over the years. This is why
>>>>> the GT500 is so appealing to me. Ford is now building Mustangs

that
>>>>> are hella mean right from the factory and with minimal after

market
>>>>> tweaking they will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably.
>>>>> That is no easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500 vert
>>>>> with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job filling that
>>>>> niche.
>>>>
>>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>>
>>>> Me Too...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things. I
>>> do understand your perspective, because there are times when it's
>>> tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it

>>
>> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
>> logarithmically with age.

>
> As the time we have left on this rock decreases I find myself less
> patient about receiving gratification. Basically, I want my MTV and I
> want it right now because I may not be around tomorrow. ;)


Exactly. Gotta enjoy it while you can.
 
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Old 02-07-2006, 17:01   #38 (permalink)
Joe
 
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"351CJ" <351CJ@msn.com> wrote in news:M4XFf.8619$Gg1.5530@trnddc03:

>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:UqOdnfLSV_Izg3XenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Wound Up wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
>>>> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>>>>
>>>>> 351CJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become
>>>>>>> less inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have
>>>>>>> enough time and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I
>>>>>>> spent tons of money building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and
>>>>>>> 460 rwtq and then Ford comes along with the Terminator Cobras
>>>>>>> and I could have had that car for the same money I spent on the
>>>>>>> '89 over the years. This is why the GT500 is so appealing to
>>>>>>> me. Ford is now building Mustangs that are hella mean right
>>>>>>> from the factory and with minimal after market tweaking they
>>>>>>> will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably. That is no
>>>>>>> easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500
>>>>>>> vert with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job
>>>>>>> filling that niche.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me Too...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things.
>>>>> I do understand your perspective, because there are times when
>>>>> it's tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
>>>> logarithmically with age.
>>>
>>> So I understand...

>>
>> ..... and in the coming years you will experience it personally. :)
>> I was so hardcore on DIY repairs I had a Triumph Spitfire as a daily
>> driver for four years in my early twenties. Every six months I had
>> to change all the U-joints in the rear or they would break the yokes
>> with catastrophic results (one time they broke and the ass of the car
>> jumped 3' into the air at 50mph). Also, changing the clutch in a
>> Spitfire is an ordeal that requires half the car's interior to be
>> removed to take out the transmission. It can't be taken out through
>> the bottom because of the wishbone frame. On the bright side that
>> car would handle like a go-cart but with 56 hp it couldn't get out of
>> its own way.
>>
>> The latest round of mods to my '89 LX has taken what was left of my
>> DIY willpower. To make the car reliable is more work than I care to
>> do. Its next makeover will involve a 427 ci stroked Windsor, Maximum
>> Motorsports complete suspension and killer brakes. I just want to
>> drop the car off at a speed shop and in a few months pick it back up
>> finished. I don't even like to wash and wax cars in the driveway
>> anymore. Isn't that sad?

>
> I thought it was just me. :-)
> I find it harder and harder to wash mine too. Good thing I only have
> the front half of my new F-450 flatbed to worry about...


It's literally a pain to wash my vehicles. Bending down scrubbing
rocker panels and wheel wells just plain hurts. Forget about doing the
wheels and tires. I still do it, although not nearly as much as I used
to.
 
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Old 02-07-2006, 21:01   #39 (permalink)
Wound Up
 
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Re: JeepTANG

Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
>> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
>> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>>
>>> 351CJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become
>>>>> less inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have
>>>>> enough time
>>>>> and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I spent tons of money
>>>>> building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and 460 rwtq and then Ford
>>>>> comes along with the Terminator Cobras and I could have had that car
>>>>> for the same money I spent on the '89 over the years. This is why
>>>>> the GT500 is so appealing to me. Ford is now building Mustangs that
>>>>> are hella mean right from the factory and with minimal after market
>>>>> tweaking they will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably.
>>>>> That is no easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500 vert
>>>>> with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job filling that
>>>>> niche.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>>
>>>> Me Too...
>>>>
>>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things. I
>>> do understand your perspective, because there are times when it's
>>> tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it

>>
>>
>> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
>> logarithmically with age.

>
>
> As the time we have left on this rock decreases I find myself less
> patient about receiving gratification. Basically, I want my MTV and I
> want it right now because I may not be around tomorrow. ;)


Dig.

Tired as hell from nine straight 12-hour days, I yearn for insane,
hide-boiling torque that requires no more than my willingness to play
with it

--
Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

AHPBBFM pages: http://tinyurl.com/9yulk




 
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Old 02-07-2006, 22:01   #40 (permalink)
Michael Johnson, PE
 
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Re: JeepTANG

Wound Up wrote:
> Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>
>>> Wound Up <none@your.disposal> wrote in
>>> news:43E7E042.8080009@your.disposal:
>>>
>>>> 351CJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Michael Johnson, PE" <cds@erols.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7Judnean7YzJDHreRVn-hQ@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I used to love working on cars but over the years I have become
>>>>>> less inclined to do it. Maybe it is because I just don't have
>>>>>> enough time
>>>>>> and patience to do things right anymore,. Plus I spent tons of money
>>>>>> building up my '89 LX to get 425 rwhp and 460 rwtq and then Ford
>>>>>> comes along with the Terminator Cobras and I could have had that car
>>>>>> for the same money I spent on the '89 over the years. This is why
>>>>>> the GT500 is so appealing to me. Ford is now building Mustangs that
>>>>>> are hella mean right from the factory and with minimal after market
>>>>>> tweaking they will put out 600+rwhp/rwtq and do it very reliably.
>>>>>> That is no easy or inexpensive task for the DIY mechanic. Besides
>>>>>> I'm at a point in my life that I want to buy a car, drive it and
>>>>>> enjoy the hell out of it not live under it. I think a GT500 vert
>>>>>> with a few after market mods would do a fantastic job filling that
>>>>>> niche.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> EXACTLY!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Me Too...
>>>>>
>>>> I still have a yearning to be covered in grease and build things. I
>>>> do understand your perspective, because there are times when it's
>>>> tiresome and I just want to DRIVE it
>>>
>>>
>>> The grease yearning decreases and the drive-it yearning increases
>>> logarithmically with age.

>>
>>
>> As the time we have left on this rock decreases I find myself less
>> patient about receiving gratification. Basically, I want my MTV and I
>> want it right now because I may not be around tomorrow. ;)

>
> Dig.
>
> Tired as hell from nine straight 12-hour days, I yearn for insane,
> hide-boiling torque that requires no more than my willingness to play
> with it


Horsepower is nice but torque is addictive. :)
 
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