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Need to make 1996 Mustang GT Louder!!! an Faster!!! HELP

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#1 ·
hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
 
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#2 ·
Yea.. sell it.

You are too stupid to know that you will annoy the hell out of everyone
within that five mile radius and leave yourself as a target for every
patrolman that wants to write a dumbass like yourself a ticket.

Sound harsh?
Try living next door to the moron that has the pipes that can be heard "for
a five mile radius"

A car can sound great without being loud enough to be obnoxious. You wanna
hear a sweet sounding car? BlueStang98 has one that will make your dick drop
in the dirt. Nothing special really to look at - like a normal car - but
when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape too.
it's tasteful, and audible.

Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid that
has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots of
"make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will be
in great shape.

Kate
98 Cobra Drop Top


"R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote in message
news:1113274067.877824.52200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
| flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
| really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
| kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
| 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
|
 
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#3 ·
On 11 Apr 2005 19:47:47 -0700, "R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote:

>hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
>flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
>really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
>kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
>4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?



lmfao
why??
a mustang is a pos

hurc ast
 
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#4 ·
ok ok not that loud but it sounds the same as soon as i pass 2000 rpm i
jus want the sweet sounding deep tone that the mustangs are known 4. im
putting x-pipe on it in a few days an takin out all the cats...will
that make the sound any different???
 
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#5 ·
R wrote:
> ok ok not that loud but it sounds the same as soon as i pass 2000 rpm i
> jus want the sweet sounding deep tone that the mustangs are known 4. im
> putting x-pipe on it in a few days an takin out all the cats...will
> that make the sound any different???
>


Keep the cats & ditch the mufflers instead.

The drone will, however, drive you nuts in quick time.

My '73 Mustang (factory 302/4bbl.) has no mufflers, no cats, no H-pipe,
just straight pipes out the back. The neighbors hate me between 9:00pm
& 9:00am, and pretty much all day too... even a hate call now & then
when we fire it up... but it sure sounds great with a 5000 rpm WOT run-by!

Rob
 
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#7 ·
Go with an H-pipe that has 2 high-flow catalytic converters... which goes to
2 Flowmaster 40 series mufflers.. and no tail pipes or tail pipes.
Whichever. More tasteful with tail pipes, louder w/out (but still sounds
good).

But don't get so loud that you piss ppl off... or you might find slashed
tires or scraped off paint (yes, ppl can be dicks).

-Mike

--
Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!
http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/


"R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote in message
news:1113274067.877824.52200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
> flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
> really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
> kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
> 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
>
 
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#9 ·
How did you take off the cats? Just weld/clamp in other pipe where the cats
were?

-Mike

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Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!
http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/


"mustangGT_00" <ialmakrami@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:85074ab77de7fdcf8fb654b9772e2104@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...
> I just took off the cats of the stock H-pipe put MIL eliminators and saved
> some $$. with 40 series mufflers it sounds really loud enough.
>
 
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#10 ·
On 11 Apr 2005 20:46:34 -0700, "R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote:

>so run straight pipes from the heads back? but wont i lose power
>because there will be no back pressure?


You're a fucking idiot.

Please, just hand over the car to me.

Or here's an idea....put on a Y-Pipe, and I'll give you the exhaust
can from my bike. I took the aftermarket exhaust off that the previous
asshole had on it, because it was just obnoxious. And replaced it with
nice, quiet, stock exhaust. I can actually hear traffic around me now,
its great.

But it really sounds like you and my old exhaust can would get along
great! Both of them are obnoxious.


--
Stephan
2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
 
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#11 ·
WTF crawled up your ass and died? He's a fucking idiot because he has a
preference that differs from yours? Quit being an asshole.

-Mike

--
Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!
http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/


"Stephan Rose" <ker-spam-mos@kermos-no-spam-reversed.net> wrote in message
news:4omm51d2uf5r19jmfmeu3mrr2pk59gs0vl@4ax.com...
> On 11 Apr 2005 20:46:34 -0700, "R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote:
>
> >so run straight pipes from the heads back? but wont i lose power
> >because there will be no back pressure?

>
> You're a fucking idiot.
>
> Please, just hand over the car to me.
>
> Or here's an idea....put on a Y-Pipe, and I'll give you the exhaust
> can from my bike. I took the aftermarket exhaust off that the previous
> asshole had on it, because it was just obnoxious. And replaced it with
> nice, quiet, stock exhaust. I can actually hear traffic around me now,
> its great.
>
> But it really sounds like you and my old exhaust can would get along
> great! Both of them are obnoxious.
>
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
 
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#12 ·
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:28:59 GMT, <memset@recorddeal.com> wrote:

>WTF crawled up your ass and died? He's a fucking idiot because he has a
>preference that differs from yours? Quit being an asshole.


I can tell you what crawled up my ass and died. Another asshat that
decided I need to hear his exhaust 5 miles away in the morning when
I'm trying to sleep. Some asshat that every time he starts his car, I
hear it, if I want to or not.

Anyone who wants their exhaust be heard for a 5 mile radius...
Anyone who considers just straight pipes out the back on a STREET
car...

is as far as I'm concerned, a total fucking moron.

But that's just me...

You are entitled to your own opinion, and yours may vary.


--
Stephan
2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
 
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#13 ·
I'm with Kate on this.
And while we are talking about people being insensitive (or just plain
stupid), let's also talk about fog lights.
Just because you *have* foglights, doesn't mean you need to use them when
the weather is clear and your normal driving lights will do fine.
You can do other things to "look cool" that do not annoy and distract those
around you.
And finally, back to sound, WTF is it with bass thumping so hard I can hear
it a block away in MY car with my windows up and my own stereo on? Admit it
that when you turn your stereo up that loud, it doesn't sound good to you
until you have lost half your hearing.
The only people you will impress with loudness (audible & visual) are other
dorks like yourself who have no taste, sensitivity, or intelligence. "Look
at me, I'm a big dork who needs attention," is what most people think of
your cheesy/annoying display.
How many people smart enough to afford $40,000+ cars do you see driving
around with foglights on in clear weather, loud mufflers, and thumping bass?
And how many do you see doing all of the above in cheaper cars? Getting a
clue yet?
--
Scotter
96 GT vert
3.73 gears, filtercharger



"SVTKate" <whoever@whatever.complaint.dept> wrote in message
news:rYG6e.5644$sp3.3296@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Yea.. sell it.
>
> You are too stupid to know that you will annoy the hell out of everyone
> within that five mile radius and leave yourself as a target for every
> patrolman that wants to write a dumbass like yourself a ticket.
>
> Sound harsh?
> Try living next door to the moron that has the pipes that can be heard
> "for
> a five mile radius"
>
> A car can sound great without being loud enough to be obnoxious. You wanna
> hear a sweet sounding car? BlueStang98 has one that will make your dick
> drop
> in the dirt. Nothing special really to look at - like a normal car - but
> when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape too.
> it's tasteful, and audible.
>
> Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid
> that
> has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots
> of
> "make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will
> be
> in great shape.
>
> Kate
> 98 Cobra Drop Top
>
>
> "R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote in message
> news:1113274067.877824.52200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> | hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
> | flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
> | really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
> | kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
> | 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
> |
>
>
 
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#14 ·
R wrote:
> hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
> flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
> really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
> kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
> 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
>


Get out your CHECK BOOK!!!
More noise equals more tickets! Period!

That doesn't even touch on the irreversible "permanent" low tone hearing
loss...
 
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#15 ·
Ok, but you can stop being a fuckin jerkoff about it & go about it a
different way other than calling somebody (blatantly) "You're a fucking
idiot." Hell, you know what I have to say to that? You're a fucking asshole.

I agree, too loud is just annoying.. but I've heard some exhausts that were
loud that I *liked* hearing. You will never please everybody.. and some ppl
are so fuckin sensitive that you will always piss them off... so I guess you
gotta do what makes YOU happy.. and in this case, rburdick@mcihispeed.net
(R) wants a bit louder of an exhaust. All he has are a couple Flowmaster
mufflers. That is FAR from too loud. Even with an offroad H-pipe.. it's FAR
from too loud (because I can't hear my neighbors car until he gets RIGHT in
his parking spot and it's a 93 SVT Cobra... and my other neighbor happens to
drive a 98 Mustang GT w/ 2 Flowmaster mufflers and an O/R H-pipe and again..
I can't hear it until he gets right next to my place).

What I think is, you just felt like bitching because Kate did. I think Kate
was a little too harsh, but she put some fuckin humor in it. You flat out
ran your mouth & called the guy a "fuckin idiot". Ppl like that piss me off.
Welcome to my kill file.

-Mike

--
Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!
http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/


"Stephan Rose" <ker-spam-mos@kermos-no-spam-reversed.net> wrote in message
news:0unm51hco6qbu14betd42i6u5pr34s7q6e@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 05:28:59 GMT, <memset@recorddeal.com> wrote:
>
> >WTF crawled up your ass and died? He's a fucking idiot because he has a
> >preference that differs from yours? Quit being an asshole.

>
> I can tell you what crawled up my ass and died. Another asshat that
> decided I need to hear his exhaust 5 miles away in the morning when
> I'm trying to sleep. Some asshat that every time he starts his car, I
> hear it, if I want to or not.
>
> Anyone who wants their exhaust be heard for a 5 mile radius...
> Anyone who considers just straight pipes out the back on a STREET
> car...
>
> is as far as I'm concerned, a total fucking moron.
>
> But that's just me...
>
> You are entitled to your own opinion, and yours may vary.
>
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
 
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#16 ·
<memset@recorddeal.com> wrote
*shipped*

|
| What I think is, you just felt like bitching because Kate did. I think
Kate
| was a little too harsh, but she put some fuckin humor in it. You flat out
| ran your mouth & called the guy a "fuckin idiot". Ppl like that piss me
off.
| Welcome to my kill file.
|
| -Mike
|
|

Yup, I was harsh and I'm not taking it back.

However I can honestly say that I do NOT believe that Stephen went off just
because I did. He is perfectly capable of blowing his own fuse over what was
initially an asinine post from what appeared to be a moron. Stephen has
proven that before in threads that I had no part in.

Sometimes I am harsh -BUT- what I did get with my response was a guy (our
fearless poster "R") that came back with a more reasonable explanation of
what he was wanting to do.
If he had been a common troll... the results would have been predictable.

Personally, I like a car to have some exhaust. Now that I live out in the
boonies folks with excessive pipes are not a problem but when I lived in the
city it was a pain in the ass.

So, "R" do some research. You can go to different web sites and find sound
clips for different exhaust combinations that may help you make a decision.
LISTEN to different cars to see what you like and then as the people what
they have on their car.
Keep in mind a few simple truths.

Excessively loud cars draw unwanted attention. Be it law enforcement,
vandals or the guy that is road raging or the neighbor that alienate.
If you destroy your emissions system for the sake of more sound, you WILL
pay the price eventually.
If you go crazy, your hearing WILL suffer. You may not notice it now, but
wait till you are in your mid 40s and you have trouble hearing.
And it WILL get worse.

So, think about it. DO the research and make a wise decision.

Mike and Stephen... c'mon guys... calm down.


Kate
 
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#17 ·
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 03:08:07 GMT, "SVTKate"
<whoever@whatever.complaint.dept> wrote:

>Yea.. sell it.
>
>You are too stupid to know that you will annoy the hell out of everyone
>within that five mile radius and leave yourself as a target for every
>patrolman that wants to write a dumbass like yourself a ticket.
>
>Sound harsh?
>Try living next door to the moron that has the pipes that can be heard "for
>a five mile radius"
>
>A car can sound great without being loud enough to be obnoxious. You wanna
>hear a sweet sounding car? BlueStang98 has one that will make your dick drop
>in the dirt.


>Nothing special really to look at - like a normal car


Gee, thanks babe. Normal car, eh? Why I oughta...

>but when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape too.
>it's tasteful, and audible.


Okay, that's a little better, you're SORTA off the hook but you better
watch your step! {;-)


>
>Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid that
>has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots of
>"make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will be
>in great shape.
>

rofl... funny stuff Kate, funny stuff.

>Kate
>98 Cobra Drop Top
>
>
>"R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote in message
>news:1113274067.877824.52200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>| hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
>| flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
>| really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
>| kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
>| 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
>|
>



- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Okie Tom - TS #62

1998 GT Coupe 5-spd.
2001 Ranger XLT
 
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#18 ·
On 11 Apr 2005 19:47:47 -0700, "R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote:

>hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
>flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
>really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
>kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
>4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?


Here's what contibutes to my car's exhaust note that Kate's so fond
of:

98 GT w/ 2000 heads
FRPP coated shorty headers
Bassani Stainless Steel Offroad X
Bassani Stainless Steel Cat-Back w/baffles

Generally speaking, most people prefer the sound of straight-through
type mufflers with X-pipes (particularly Offroad X-pipes) while
chambered mufflers tend to be more pleasing with H-pipes. Often when
you mix these this formula incorrectly the result is a wicked drone
around 2000 rpm's that'll rattle your teeth outta your head.

Unfortunately the exact model of Bassani X that I have isn't available
as a 1-piece part anymore, they did a slight re-design to make
shipping more affordable. Still great stuff though and I wouldn't
hesitate to recommend it. If I had to do it all over again I'd take a
hard look at the Magnaflow stuff... same stainless steel construction
at a little more reasonable price.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Okie Tom - TS #62

1998 GT Coupe 5-spd.
2001 Ranger XLT
 
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#19 ·
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:38:34 GMT, "SVTKate"
<whoever@whatever.complaint.dept> wrote:

>
><memset@recorddeal.com> wrote
>*shipped*
>
>|
>| What I think is, you just felt like bitching because Kate did. I think
>Kate
>| was a little too harsh, but she put some fuckin humor in it. You flat out
>| ran your mouth & called the guy a "fuckin idiot". Ppl like that piss me
>off.
>| Welcome to my kill file.
>|
>| -Mike
>|
>|
>
>Yup, I was harsh and I'm not taking it back.
>
>However I can honestly say that I do NOT believe that Stephen went off just
>because I did. He is perfectly capable of blowing his own fuse over what was
>initially an asinine post from what appeared to be a moron. Stephen has
>proven that before in threads that I had no part in.


Precisely =)

>
>Sometimes I am harsh -BUT- what I did get with my response was a guy (our
>fearless poster "R") that came back with a more reasonable explanation of
>what he was wanting to do.
>If he had been a common troll... the results would have been predictable.


I've yet to see anything I consider more reasonable..

>
>Personally, I like a car to have some exhaust. Now that I live out in the
>boonies folks with excessive pipes are not a problem but when I lived in the
>city it was a pain in the ass.


Yea I agree, exhaust is fine. Obnoxious on the other hand....

>
>So, "R" do some research. You can go to different web sites and find sound
>clips for different exhaust combinations that may help you make a decision.
>LISTEN to different cars to see what you like and then as the people what
>they have on their car.
>Keep in mind a few simple truths.
>
>Excessively loud cars draw unwanted attention. Be it law enforcement,
>vandals or the guy that is road raging or the neighbor that alienate.
>If you destroy your emissions system for the sake of more sound, you WILL
>pay the price eventually.
>If you go crazy, your hearing WILL suffer. You may not notice it now, but
>wait till you are in your mid 40s and you have trouble hearing.
>And it WILL get worse.
>
>So, think about it. DO the research and make a wise decision.
>
>Mike and Stephen... c'mon guys... calm down.


I could not be any calmer =)


--
Stephan
2001 Yamaha YZF-R6
 
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#21 ·
Around 4/11/2005 7:47 PM, R wrote:

> hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
> flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
> really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
> kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
> 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?



Why did you waste money on mufflers if you wanted your car to be that loud?


--
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#22 ·
Garth,

LOL... well, he made it pretty clear that he doesn't exactly know what he's
doing. He's just throwing parts at it w/out doing his homework. Probably
based on a friend's recommendation or a shop's sales pitch.. maybe even a
performance shop's sales pitch. Who knows :p~~.

-Mike

--
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http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/


"Garth Almgren" <nospam@v6stang.com> wrote in message
news:3c2gc7F6jqme8U2@individual.net...
> Around 4/11/2005 7:47 PM, R wrote:
>
> > hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
> > flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
> > really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
> > kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
> > 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?

>
>
> Why did you waste money on mufflers if you wanted your car to be that

loud?
>
>
> --
> / Garth - '83 GL V6stang Hatch <Former MW #7> \
> | My V6stang: http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang |
> | RAMFM Merchandise: http://www.cafeshops.com/ramfm |
> \ Mail pgp@v6stang.com for secure reply information /
 
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#24 ·
Why didn't ya pull the entire H-pipe & use a recip. saw to cut 'em out? Or
even an angle grinder w/ a cutting wheel... then grind it down. I'd use a
recip. saw & a few blades.

I'm shopping around for an H-pipe with 2 high-flow cats. I have a Steeda
adjustable clutch cable on the way.. should arrive tomorrow or day after.
Mine snapped :(.

-Mike

--
Melt away the Cellulite with Cellulean!
http://www.MeltAwayCellulite.com/


"mustangGT_00" <ialmakrami@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:19a5f097b5c73f03ea28aa8ff10a3be7@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...
> Yup, just as you said, but the front two were hard to take off, so I just
> "emptyed" them so they are still there with nothing inside. it sounds the
> same as I spent $$$ on aftermarket stuff.
>
 
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#26 ·
<bluestang98@NOSPAMnetzero.net> wrote in message
news:eek:0hn51l6eij9e7h7b4o0d9jf6t2nm6el6i@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 03:08:07 GMT, "SVTKate"
| <whoever@whatever.complaint.dept> wrote:
|
| >Yea.. sell it.
| >
| >You are too stupid to know that you will annoy the hell out of everyone
| >within that five mile radius and leave yourself as a target for every
| >patrolman that wants to write a dumbass like yourself a ticket.
| >
| >Sound harsh?
| >Try living next door to the moron that has the pipes that can be heard
"for
| >a five mile radius"
| >
| >A car can sound great without being loud enough to be obnoxious. You
wanna
| >hear a sweet sounding car? BlueStang98 has one that will make your dick
drop
| >in the dirt.
|
| >Nothing special really to look at - like a normal car
|
| Gee, thanks babe. Normal car, eh? Why I oughta...

You oughtta... whut????
Huh huh...?? I ain't scared of you.. .boy!
It DOES look normal, even with those ugly tail lights!
But man... put a bag over it's head and listen to it moan in your ear, and
it's all about the 10 at 2!

|
| >but when he turns the key, it turns heads. Runs like a rabbid assed ape
too.
| >it's tasteful, and audible.
|
| Okay, that's a little better, you're SORTA off the hook but you better
| watch your step! {;-)

No kidding! Like the last time I was OKC and didn't... ??? You got that one
right.


|
|
| >
| >Go buy a Honda, drop it in the dirt, add a chicken wing to the deck lid
that
| >has at least a three foot lift and put a fart can muffler on it with lots
of
| >"make it go fast yellow" stickers and plug in some rap music and you will
be
| >in great shape.
| >
| rofl... funny stuff Kate, funny stuff.

I guess the kid's intentions are good, it was just a case of how it read
once posted.


|
| >Kate
| >98 Cobra Drop Top



| >
| >
| >"R" <rburdick@mcihispeed.net> wrote in message
| >news:1113274067.877824.52200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| >| hi everyone i am a owner of a 96 mustang gt....i have just put
| >| flowmaster exhaust cans on the car with the stock tailpips. It only
| >| really sounds good at about 2000 rpm an then i cant even hear it...
| >| kinda disapointing if u ask me, well i need help on how 2 wake up my
| >| 4.6 so u can hear it 5 miles away any suggestions?
| >|
| >
|
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| 1998 GT Coupe 5-spd.
| 2001 Ranger XLT
 
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