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Old 03-29-2005, 10:01   #1 (permalink)
Big Al
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New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent rear
axle? If it ever comes out:)

Al


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Old 03-29-2005, 16:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

supposedly it will be solid

no irs



"Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent rear
> axle? If it ever comes out:)
>
> Al
>
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Old 03-29-2005, 17:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:51:33 -0700, "Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net>
wrote:

>Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent rear
>axle? If it ever comes out:)
>
>Al
>

****
ford uses CHEAP suspension in all their products
cheap tooooooo
u cant even get 30k on balljoints in a f450

fords idea:
sell the same part in all cars
make them so they dont last


btw if you seen what other auto manufactures use
ford has blown it
they are miles behind in this area

hurc ast
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Old 03-29-2005, 19:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:28:18 GMT, firefox7620@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:51:33 -0700, "Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent rear
>>axle? If it ever comes out:)
>>
>>Al
>>

>****
>ford uses CHEAP suspension in all their products
>cheap tooooooo
>u cant even get 30k on balljoints in a f450
>
>fords idea:
>sell the same part in all cars
>make them so they dont last
>
>
>btw if you seen what other auto manufactures use
>ford has blown it
>they are miles behind in this area


ya think ? Not so in every area. Look at the Ford SUV line-up. What
other american manufacturer has irs on all their suv's ? (I exclude
the exvaldez since it's out of production anyways)

The solid axle on the gt500 is supposed be a very good implementation.
Let's wait and see.

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Old 03-29-2005, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
gerald smith@impco.com
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:27:15 -0700, Rein
<rruiterNO-SPAM@NO-SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:28:18 GMT, firefox7620@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:51:33 -0700, "Big Al" <nospamsal1@qwest.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent rear
>>>axle? If it ever comes out:)
>>>
>>>Al
>>>

>>****
>>ford uses CHEAP suspension in all their products
>>cheap tooooooo
>>u cant even get 30k on balljoints in a f450
>>
>>fords idea:
>>sell the same part in all cars
>>make them so they dont last
>>
>>
>>btw if you seen what other auto manufactures use
>>ford has blown it
>>they are miles behind in this area

>
>ya think ? Not so in every area. Look at the Ford SUV line-up. What
>other american manufacturer has irs on all their suv's ? (I exclude
>the exvaldez since it's out of production anyways)
>

wow
whats the only manufacture to get 30K out of there ball joints

?????

hurc ast
>The solid axle on the gt500 is supposed be a very good implementation.
>Let's wait and see.
>


lmfao
who told ya that

hurc ast

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Old 03-29-2005, 21:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

Big Al wrote:
> Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent

rear
> axle? If it ever comes out:)


Al,

It's going to be a solid axle. According to Ford, most Mustang
enthusiasts like to drag race and there's nothing better than a solid
axle for that. Plus, Ford says a solid axle helps keep the price down
by a couple grand.

Personally, I like both reasons.

Patrick
'93 Cobra

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Old 03-29-2005, 22:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

On 29 Mar 2005 19:13:47 -0800, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:

>Big Al wrote:
>> Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent

>rear
>> axle? If it ever comes out:)

>
>Al,
>
>It's going to be a solid axle. According to Ford, most Mustang
>enthusiasts like to drag race and there's nothing better than a solid
>axle for that. Plus, Ford says a solid axle helps keep the price down
>by a couple grand.
>
>Personally, I like both reasons.
>
>Patrick
>'93 Cobra


yup
and ya change your mind if ya could corner

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Old 03-29-2005, 23:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

In article <1112152427.137636.62540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
> Big Al wrote:
>> Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent

> rear
>> axle? If it ever comes out:)

>
> Al,
>
> It's going to be a solid axle. According to Ford, most Mustang
> enthusiasts like to drag race and there's nothing better than a solid
> axle for that. Plus, Ford says a solid axle helps keep the price down
> by a couple grand.
>
> Personally, I like both reasons.


It's just ford bullshit. They can put an IRS in a simple base level family
sedan in austrailia. Ford can also build one that can hold up to drag
racing just fine. They simply choose not to do so with the mustang
because most buyers in the USA won't notice. Then they can pocket the
money they don't spend on development. And I doubt it keeps the price
down to us any. The price is what they think the market will bare and
not a penny less.

The top mustang here in the USA doesn't even get the same consideration as a
grocery getter in another country. In the USA it's all about marketing
and getting away with cheapening the product in any way they can.

Will I put up with this? If it's the only definency, the price is really
$40K, they really do build it to demand so I can just order one, there
are aftermarket corrective actions I can install myself, and I haven't
said 'the hell with it' and bought something else by the time it
comes out.








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Old 03-30-2005, 00:02   #9 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

Brent P wrote:
> In article <1112152427.137636.62540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
>
>>Big Al wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone know if the new Mustang Cobra will have a solid or independent

>>
>>rear
>>
>>>axle? If it ever comes out:)

>>
>>Al,
>>
>>It's going to be a solid axle. According to Ford, most Mustang
>>enthusiasts like to drag race and there's nothing better than a solid
>>axle for that. Plus, Ford says a solid axle helps keep the price down
>>by a couple grand.
>>
>>Personally, I like both reasons.

>
>
> It's just ford bullshit. They can put an IRS in a simple base level family
> sedan in austrailia. Ford can also build one that can hold up to drag
> racing just fine. They simply choose not to do so with the mustang
> because most buyers in the USA won't notice. Then they can pocket the
> money they don't spend on development. And I doubt it keeps the price
> down to us any. The price is what they think the market will bare and
> not a penny less.
>
> The top mustang here in the USA doesn't even get the same consideration as a
> grocery getter in another country. In the USA it's all about marketing
> and getting away with cheapening the product in any way they can.


That grocery getter isn't sporting a 5.4L, DOHC, four valve head,
fordged rotating assembly engine topped with a twin screw blower either.
Nothing is perfect but, IMHO, the GT500 is damn close. In the real
world I bet the difference in performance between the new solid axle
design and an IRS setup is minimal at best.

> Will I put up with this? If it's the only definency, the price is really
> $40K, they really do build it to demand so I can just order one, there
> are aftermarket corrective actions I can install myself, and I haven't
> said 'the hell with it' and bought something else by the time it
> comes out.

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Old 03-30-2005, 01:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: New Mustang Cobra rear suspension

In article <n5mdnTzyQcxS3tffRVn-vg@comcast.com>, Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> It's just ford bullshit. They can put an IRS in a simple base level family
>> sedan in austrailia. Ford can also build one that can hold up to drag
>> racing just fine. They simply choose not to do so with the mustang
>> because most buyers in the USA won't notice. Then they can pocket the
>> money they don't spend on development. And I doubt it keeps the price
>> down to us any. The price is what they think the market will bare and
>> not a penny less.
>>
>> The top mustang here in the USA doesn't even get the same consideration as a
>> grocery getter in another country. In the USA it's all about marketing
>> and getting away with cheapening the product in any way they can.

>
> That grocery getter isn't sporting a 5.4L, DOHC, four valve head,
> fordged rotating assembly engine topped with a twin screw blower either.
> Nothing is perfect but, IMHO, the GT500 is damn close. In the real
> world I bet the difference in performance between the new solid axle
> design and an IRS setup is minimal at best.


So you are going to tell me ford engineers are morons? Come on. They can
do it. In fact, that 'grocery getter' has high performance models as well.
http://www.fpv.com.au/ 388hp from the boss 290 V8...

If ford engineers can't make a proper IRS, then I doubt their ability to
design the rest of the car. That's what makes it a matter of marketeer
and bean-counter will, not one of 'too much horsepower'. Because if they
can't do an IRS, they couldn't do the engine or transmission either.





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