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Old 10-25-2005, 02:02   #1 (permalink)
Lee Coleman
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Sound System in a 69 Mustang

I have a Kenwood KRC 2007 (60 watts) radio/cassette player with a 10 cd
changer in the trunk, they came with the car when I bought it. The speakers
are the pits! I would like to install some quality speakers and sub woofer
for around $200 to $300 and would like the advice of this vast and unpaid
resource. This may be way short on the amount but it is a starting budget.
How do you determine the best mounting location of the speakers? Does the
Dynamat stuff justify the cost of it?
Thanks to all.
Lee


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Old 10-25-2005, 02:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Sound System in a 69 Mustang

You aren't going to get good sound with that head unit without an amp.
I would add a four channel amp to the system first, and see how the
speakers sound then.

If you're set on speakers first, I've had good results with Boston
Accoustics. Pioneer and Sony are crap. Alpines are somewhere in
between. Phoenix Gold and Mission are the best I've used, but they're
out of your price range.

Mounting is a problem with the '69-'70 because the kick panels with the
speaker mounts molded in aren't available. You could make some laying
fiberglass over your own mold, but that would do away with those nice
fresh air vents. Realistically, you've gotta cutthe door panel. In my
'70 Cougar I've got a 1" particle board build-out on top of the hole in
the door panel. This allowed the use of a Mission mid with a really
big magnet, mounted in the lower front corner, and a tweeter up high. I
think that's the best way to go.

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Old 10-26-2005, 20:07   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Sound System in a 69 Mustang

Putting a system in a '69 is a huge PITA. Kick panels are out, cutting the
doors sucks. besides, the placement there makes the sound crappy no matter
how good your drivers are. If you have a rear deck, then you have a chance
for sound, but not quality. I have the worst of both worlds since I have
solid doors without factory speaker holes and a fold down rear seat. I've
been trying to figure something out for MONTHS. It's gonna come down to
lotsa fiberglass fabrication.

I still want to use the fold down capability but need to use the space for
the sub enclosure. I've already removed the passthrough door into the trunk
and made a mold of it. The mold will be used to build a plug to make a new
door which will be the face for the sub enclosure and a set of 6.5"
component drivers. Obviously the door would become non-functional since the
enclosure would intrude into the trunk.

I'm thinking of fabricating new kickpanels which include ducting for the
fresh air vents. Air would travel through the duct up towards the bottom of
the dash and would exit through a set of vents similar to the vents in the
center of an AC dash. It would look correct. Problem on the driver side is
the e-brake and release handle. FRACK!
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'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
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Old 10-27-2005, 06:01   #4 (permalink)
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"66 6F HCS" <69ta_mustang@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:N-6dnTd47uckoP3enZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Putting a system in a '69 is a huge PITA. Kick panels are out, cutting the
> doors sucks. besides, the placement there makes the sound crappy no matter
> how good your drivers are. If you have a rear deck, then you have a chance
> for sound, but not quality. I have the worst of both worlds since I have
> solid doors without factory speaker holes and a fold down rear seat. I've
> been trying to figure something out for MONTHS. It's gonna come down to
> lotsa fiberglass fabrication.
>
> I still want to use the fold down capability but need to use the space for
> the sub enclosure. I've already removed the passthrough door into the
> trunk and made a mold of it. The mold will be used to build a plug to make
> a new door which will be the face for the sub enclosure and a set of 6.5"
> component drivers. Obviously the door would become non-functional since
> the enclosure would intrude into the trunk.
>
> I'm thinking of fabricating new kickpanels which include ducting for the
> fresh air vents. Air would travel through the duct up towards the bottom
> of the dash and would exit through a set of vents similar to the vents in
> the center of an AC dash. It would look correct. Problem on the driver
> side is the e-brake and release handle. FRACK!
> --
> Scott W.
> '66 HCS Mustang 289
> '68 Ranchero 500 302
> '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
> ThunderSnake #57
> http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/
>lots of empty space behing the 1/4 trim panels on either side of the seat,
>and as the panels are repro 'ed now. you could stash the originals and cut
>up the replacements.

also have heard of putting slim line speakers in the seats themselves
especailly if you can the 69 low back seats with the ridgid shell used on
the deluxe interior and grande models. replacing the indash speaker is a
pain but some of the new dual cone/dual speakers have decent sound if not
overdriven. why not mount the subs behind the pass through door and leave
the door down, then the door can be closed to cover the speaker fronts, if
you show the car or for security reasons, and to protect from sun (uv)
damage, some quick work with rubber straps and removable legs (alha late
model cougars and thunderbirds) and the whole sub unit could be removed if
you need the space say on a weekend trip or whatever. good luck either way
and post some pic's if you do get the plug built.


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Old 10-27-2005, 11:01   #5 (permalink)
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"walt peifer" <lensman@tampabay.rr.com> wrote
>>lots of empty space behing the 1/4 trim panels on either side of the seat,
>>and as the panels are repro 'ed now. you could stash the originals and cut
>>up the replacements.


Still expensive, but thinkable. It's not a very clean look that way. Very
'70's mullet IMHO. :) I want to keep the arm rests usable anyway.

> also have heard of putting slim line speakers in the seats themselves
> especailly if you can the 69 low back seats with the ridgid shell used on
> the deluxe interior and grande models.


What, facing backwards?? I'm sure that sounds wierd from the front seats.
Not to mention sound quality and staging. eesh.

>replacing the indash speaker is a pain but some of the new dual cone/dual
>speakers have decent sound if not overdriven.


Well even with a dual cone it sounds mono since the speakers are seperated
by what, an inch? I'm going to be running in the neighborhood of 1000 watts
in this system.

>why not mount the subs behind the pass through door and leave the door
>down, then the door can be closed to cover the speaker fronts, if you show
>the car or for security reasons, and to protect from sun (uv) damage, some
>quick work with rubber straps and removable legs (alha late model cougars
>and thunderbirds) and the whole sub unit could be removed if you need the
>space say on a weekend trip or whatever.


Well the car is only for my driving pleasure and a few shows. The plug will
more than likely be covered anyways since I will build a screen to cover the
space from the seat top to the rear window, making it look like it has a
regular deck but would be sonically invisible. This obviously could be
removed to show it off, but would usually remain in place for security
reasons. I'm still working on ideas as to whether the rear components will
be in their own pods and the sub alone. I've been racking my brains for
months, but I'm coming up with the good ideas, the problem is there's always
a drawback to each different idea. I'm trying to amalgamate (fifty cent word
of the day) all the ideas into one that would work the best.

>good luck either way and post some pic's if you do get the plug built.


I will. They'll be on my website as soon as I get to work on it.

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Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/


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