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Old 03-22-2005, 20:01   #1 (permalink)
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Spy Photo of Next Shelby GT500

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Old 03-22-2005, 21:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Spy Photo of Next Shelby GT500

Looks nice but why would it be called a GT 500? wouldn't GT 350 be more
appropriate? After all it isn't a big block car.

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Old 03-22-2005, 22:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Spy Photo of Next Shelby GT500

Mark C. wrote:
> Looks nice but why would it be called a GT 500? wouldn't GT 350 be more
> appropriate? After all it isn't a big block car.


Might be for 500 hp and not 500 cid.
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Old 03-22-2005, 23:01   #4 (permalink)
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Mark C. wrote:
> Looks nice but why would it be called a GT 500? wouldn't GT 350 be more
> appropriate? After all it isn't a big block car.


My thoughts exactly. These numbers were never tied to horsepower or
displacement; these cars were named because of Shelby's imagination.
Let the SBs stay 350s, and the BBs stay 500s. This, and this alone
makes any sense...

And a "5.4 liter" mod, i.e., roughly 330 ci engine, definitely does not
count as a big block. Hell, I'd love to see a pumped V10 in a new
GT-500. Why the hell not??

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Old 03-23-2005, 04:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Spy Photo of Next Shelby GT500

Mark C. wrote:

> Looks nice but why would it be called a GT 500? wouldn't GT 350 be

more
> appropriate? After all it isn't a big block car.


Geeze guy, listen to yourselves. Ford offers a 5.4 liter supercharged
V8 for less than $40K and just because they title it "GT500" you're
complaining it shouldn't be called that because it "isn't a big-block
car." I say F..* the big block. That S/C'd 5.4 will thump any
previous big block and *more* than deserves the title. Hell, in a way,
calling it a GT500 is a way to underrate its potential... maybe they
should have called it GT600 or 700.

Side note: In the new issue of MM&FF. A slightly modded Ford GT with
its S/C'd 5.4 ran high 10's at over 130 mph. Yes, the Mustang is
heavier than the GT, but still... could we see GT500s running *easy*
11s with just a couple bolt-on parts...? GT500 indeed!

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Old 03-23-2005, 10:02   #6 (permalink)
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In article <1111578049.321748.14360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:

> Geeze guy, listen to yourselves. Ford offers a 5.4 liter supercharged
> V8 for less than $40K


Ford offers a small amount of cars so equipped at a list price of under
$40K knowing full well that's not the reality. 7500 units... over how
many ford dealers?

> and just because they title it "GT500" you're
> complaining it shouldn't be called that because it "isn't a big-block
> car." I say F..* the big block. That S/C'd 5.4 will thump any
> previous big block and *more* than deserves the title. Hell, in a way,
> calling it a GT500 is a way to underrate its potential... maybe they
> should have called it GT600 or 700.


Might as well argue over the name and other silly details. This is going
to be nothing more than car-rag boasting my-favorite-car-is-faster-than-
your-favorite car HS stuff anyway.


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Old 03-23-2005, 19:01   #7 (permalink)
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Brent P wrote:

> Ford offers a small amount of cars so equipped at a list price of

under
> $40K knowing full well that's not the reality. 7500 units... over how


> many ford dealers?


Sorry, Brent. Not this time. Ford says they'll sell as many GT500s as
there are buyers.

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Old 03-24-2005, 06:01   #8 (permalink)
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NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1111629907.812897.18970
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Brent P wrote:
>
>> Ford offers a small amount of cars so equipped at a list price of

> under
>> $40K knowing full well that's not the reality. 7500 units... over

how
>
>> many ford dealers?

>
> Sorry, Brent. Not this time. Ford says they'll sell as many GT500s

as
> there are buyers.
>
> Patrick
> '93 Cobra


I sure hope so. It's about time that Ford put out a supercar for the
masses (even at > $40k). Awesome machine.

Joe
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Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
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Old 03-24-2005, 08:01   #9 (permalink)
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:21:23 GMT, Joe <avoidingspam@nospam.com> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>NoOption5L@aol.com wrote in news:1111629907.812897.18970
>@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Brent P wrote:
>>
>>> Ford offers a small amount of cars so equipped at a list price of

>> under
>>> $40K knowing full well that's not the reality. 7500 units... over

>how
>>
>>> many ford dealers?

>>
>> Sorry, Brent. Not this time. Ford says they'll sell as many GT500s

>as
>> there are buyers.
>>
>> Patrick
>> '93 Cobra

>
>I sure hope so. It's about time that Ford put out a supercar for the
>masses (even at > $40k). Awesome machine.
>

Let me guess that you really didn't mean "Supercar" as the term is
normally used. Perhaps you meant super car as is "Damn dude you have
a super car". I still think that it will be a major marketing mistake
to creep into the Corvette's price range unless it can compete feature
with feature against it.

The Mustang enjoys a very narrow market segment with almost no
competition for sales. Very few Mustang shoppers are considering
other alternatives to their purchase, especially when it comes to the
GT. Expanding the price into another vehicles market space just might
bring the consideration of other options into play for the undecided
consumer.

Back in every early `99 I had received a payout from my old employer
and was starting a new job that was 1.5 hour drive away each day. I
wanted a really nice daily driver for the long commute as my current
car a VW GTi was coming of lease and I had decided to not keep it.
One car under consideration was a triple white Cobra drop-top. While
it was a lo verily car and I ended up purchasing a very low milage
used Corvette coupe for a very a pretty significant price differential
in favor of the Corvette. Now perhaps not everyone looks at all
options and gives consideration to all alternatives as I do, but with
the constant increases in car prices and now the cost of gasoline,
that damn Vette got ~25mpg on the highway, Ford needs to be careful to
keep within it's demographic, market space, and price space as well.
Encroachment may just end up making the vehicle untenable having
customers consider alternatives that might exist at that pricing
structure.

Now when the kids got their driver licenses the Vette became untenable
from an insurance perspective and I dropped back punted and ended up
buying an `01 V6 premium drop-top which is also a really fun car that
does rake me over the coals on insurance. Matter of fact it has now
become my 17yo's daily driver as I recently moved into an `05 F-150
SXT. I needed a truck and the kid needed a car, what can ya do?

>Joe
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Old 03-24-2005, 10:01   #10 (permalink)
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In article <1111629907.812897.18970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L@aol.com wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>
>> Ford offers a small amount of cars so equipped at a list price of

> under
>> $40K knowing full well that's not the reality. 7500 units... over how

>
>> many ford dealers?

>
> Sorry, Brent. Not this time. Ford says they'll sell as many GT500s as
> there are buyers.


I'll believe it when I see it.


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