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Old 09-28-2005, 11:01   #1 (permalink)
Willis
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427 Timing - First time - need detailed help/advice (please)

Ok,

I tried posting this at the end of one of my earlier posts and didn't
receive any feedback, so that's why you're seeing ANOTHER post from me
haha...



I'm looking to adjust the timing on my Galaxie's 427 sideoiler. I've
never done this before, even though I do have a timing light.

Can anyone please take me through the steps to check/adjust timing, and
please provide any original or factory 427 specifications for ignition
timing?

I'm not sure what specific information I'm going to need or if numbers
change when the engine is custom, but specs on my car are here (go to
page 4):

http://members.cardomain.com/callmewillis

Also if it's needed, my cam specs are here:

http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Se...umber=33-246-4

I am running a Mallory Unilite distributor that does not have a vacuum
advance. I also just ordered new Accel Armorshield plug wires (should
be delivered tomorrow), and Autolite platinum plugs (installed
already).

Thanks!

Jason

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Old 09-28-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 427 Timing - First time - need detailed help/advice (please)

> I'm looking to adjust the timing on my Galaxie's 427 sideoiler. I've
> never done this before, even though I do have a timing light.
>
> Can anyone please take me through the steps to check/adjust timing,
> and please provide any original or factory 427 specifications for
> ignition timing?


Your engine is no longer a factory configuration so setting the timing to
factory specs won't do much good. This article should help:
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...ng/index.shtml


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Old 09-28-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
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Use the article that Nosey linked to, your shop manual, and gthe
instructions that came with the dizzy to learn how to set and adjust
the timing on your FE. Mallory may have instruction sheets and tuning
tips on their web site, if not search and you'll find basic tips all
over the place.

A good safe/conservative start for that motor would be about 8-10
degrees BTDC initial timing with 32-34 degrees BTDC total. You want
full timing advance in by 2500-2700 RPM. If you run into hard starting
problems when the motor is hot then either use a timing retard module
for the ignition (set up to pull the timing back 4-6 degrees for easier
starting) or pull initial timing out (by turing the distributor) and
put more total advance in the distributor (by adjusting the advance
mechanisim). Chances are the motor may want more total timing fro
maximum power....something in the 36-38 degree range is likely...but
its something you need to test and tune for.

The only way to really dial the timing curve in is on a dyno or at the
drag strip. The timing numbers I list above are a good starting point
for pump gas and moderate compression ratios on FE motors.

-Mike.

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Old 09-28-2005, 16:01   #4 (permalink)
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Willis wrote:
> Ok,
>
> I tried posting this at the end of one of my earlier posts and didn't
> receive any feedback, so that's why you're seeing ANOTHER post from me
> haha...
>
>
>
> I'm looking to adjust the timing on my Galaxie's 427 sideoiler. I've
> never done this before, even though I do have a timing light.
>
> Can anyone please take me through the steps to check/adjust timing, and
> please provide any original or factory 427 specifications for ignition
> timing?


Is the timing pointer degreed or is the harmonic dampener degreed?
With the exception of the 68 427's W code GTE Cougars, all 427
side oilers and center oilers use a 0-20 degree pointer with a
harmonic dampener approx. 1 1/2' to 2' thick with a cast in pulley.
I would set the initial at 8-10 degree's with total 34-38 degree's at
2800rpm.
>
> I'm not sure what specific information I'm going to need or if numbers
> change when the engine is custom, but specs on my car are here (go to
> page 4):
>
> http://members.cardomain.com/callmewillis
>
> Also if it's needed, my cam specs are here:
>
> http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Se...umber=33-246-4
>
> I am running a Mallory Unilite distributor that does not have a vacuum
> advance. I also just ordered new Accel Armorshield plug wires (should
> be delivered tomorrow), and Autolite platinum plugs (installed
> already).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jason


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Old 09-28-2005, 23:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 427 Timing - First time - need detailed help/advice (please)


The harmonic balancer is degreed, but I'll have to look a 2nd time to
verify the scale.

Thanks for the advice - before I get to any of the timing issues I
still have to finish installing my fans and new waterpump :)

Jason

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Old 09-29-2005, 14:01   #6 (permalink)
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How thick is it?

FeWedgeT.S.#13

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Old 09-30-2005, 00:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 427 Timing - First time - need detailed help/advice (please)

These tips might help...

http://bob2000.com/dist.htm

Gerard
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>
> Ok,
>
> I tried posting this at the end of one of my earlier posts and didn't
> receive any feedback, so that's why you're seeing ANOTHER post from me
> haha...
>
> I'm looking to adjust the timing on my Galaxie's 427 sideoiler. I've
> never done this before, even though I do have a timing light.
>
> Can anyone please take me through the steps to check/adjust timing, and
> please provide any original or factory 427 specifications for ignition
> timing?
>
> I'm not sure what specific information I'm going to need or if numbers
> change when the engine is custom, but specs on my car are here (go to
> page 4):
>
> http://members.cardomain.com/callmewillis
>
> Also if it's needed, my cam specs are here:
>
> http://www.compcams.com/Technical/Se...umber=33-246-4
>
> I am running a Mallory Unilite distributor that does not have a vacuum
> advance. I also just ordered new Accel Armorshield plug wires (should
> be delivered tomorrow), and Autolite platinum plugs (installed
> already).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jason



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Old 10-05-2005, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 427 Timing - First time - need detailed help/advice (please)

fewedge@pacbell.net wrote:
> How thick is it?
>


Stu? Scott? Sounds like a question for you guys.

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Old 10-05-2005, 19:01   #9 (permalink)
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How thick? Sorta personal ain't it? StuK

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>> How thick is it?
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Old 10-05-2005, 19:01   #10 (permalink)
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Really. Wedgie's gone too far. Huh uhh-huh.

STUK wrote:
> How thick? Sorta personal ain't it? StuK
>
> ThunderSnake #11
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>
>
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> news:43446828.2060903@your.disposal.ask.me...
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>>fewedge@pacbell.net wrote:
>>
>>>How thick is it?
>>>

>>
>>Stu? Scott? Sounds like a question for you guys.
>>
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>>

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