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Old 08-12-2005, 07:01   #21 (permalink)
Bill S.
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

Ok, I'm calling BULLSHIT on this one, you can't possibly have a
tunnelport 455, as the Pontiac Tunnelport engine was based on the 400
engine (AKA: Ram Air "V" motor)....Number "44" stamped into the heads
which signify the "400" RAM AIR V tunnelport heads (come on down to NJ,
and I'll show you a set of Tunnel Port heads off of a RAM Air V
motor)........Not ever a 455, sorry, you thought you could pull one over
on those of us into BB Fords, but you failed to think that some of us
might have had BB Pontiac knowledge as well. You really need to get your
facts straight before you post, especially if you want to try to get one
over on this group........

TS#15



trippin28track@yahoo.com wrote:

> Don't believe DeserTBob's bullshit- I own a tunnel port 455 Pontiac
> engine in a 1970 Firebird

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Old 08-12-2005, 09:01   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

Bill S. wrote:
> Ok, I'm calling BULLSHIT on this one


In a sense, words are encyclopedias of ignorance because they "freeze"
perceptions at one moment in history and then insist we continue to use
these "frozen" perceptions when we should be doing better.
-Edward de Bono

CHILL, Bill. ;^)
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Ken
ThunderSnake #51


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Old 08-12-2005, 13:01   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

Nosey wrote:

> Bill S. wrote:
>
>>Ok, I'm calling BULLSHIT on this one

>
>
> In a sense, words are encyclopedias of ignorance because they "freeze"
> perceptions at one moment in history and then insist we continue to use
> these "frozen" perceptions when we should be doing better.
> -Edward de Bono
>
> CHILL, Bill. ;^)

Calling it like I see it, nothing more.

TS#15
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Old 08-12-2005, 14:01   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house


> Calling it like I see it, nothing more.
>
> TS#15


No offense intended to you, Bill. It was subtle a hint. I guess too subtle.
Here's a not too subtle hint:
He's in the freezer.


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Old 08-12-2005, 14:01   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

Nosey wrote:
>>Calling it like I see it, nothing more.
>>
>>TS#15

>
>
> No offense intended to you, Bill. It was subtle a hint. I guess too subtle.
> Here's a not too subtle hint:
> He's in the freezer.
>
>

Too damn hot and I'm overtired...Normally, I would have gotten the hint
the first time around........

TS#15

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Old 08-12-2005, 15:01   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

the tunnel port heads fit ANY Pontiac engine- from 389-400-421-428-455

all Pontiac blocks are the same, they only differ in main bearing size
and bore/stroke. Any heads will interchange from 1955 to 1979

the tunnel ports will even bolt onto the earlier 326-350 Pontiac
engines, but will be valve shrouded due to smaller bore size.

now, about getting those facts straight- send a valid email so you can
see the pictures- I'll even send pics of the engine being assembled.

question- what kind of car is your daily driver ?

I think I smell some rice on this group

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Old 08-12-2005, 15:01   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

thundersnake- my bet is thunder rice as a daily driver

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Old 08-12-2005, 15:01   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

BB pontiac knowledge- now that's a misnomer- all Pontiacs use the SAME
BLOCK

I've been running and building them since 1981, and also have a 70 GTO
stick car

you are FULL OF SHIT thunder rice

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Old 08-13-2005, 02:01   #29 (permalink)
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trippin28track@yahoo.com wrote:
> the tunnel port heads fit ANY Pontiac engine- from 389-400-421-428-455
>
> all Pontiac blocks are the same, they only differ in main bearing size
> and bore/stroke. Any heads will interchange from 1955 to 1979
>
> the tunnel ports will even bolt onto the earlier 326-350 Pontiac
> engines, but will be valve shrouded due to smaller bore size.
>
> now, about getting those facts straight- send a valid email so you can
> see the pictures- I'll even send pics of the engine being assembled.
>
> question- what kind of car is your daily driver ?
>
> I think I smell some rice on this group
>

Ok, Ill bite, but just this once.

The tunnel port heads are what differientiates the motor, the heads are
based on the TP design from 1969, but will not, I repeat, NOT turn your
engine into a 455TP, sorry, so your contention that you have a TP 455
goes right out the window. The fact ytou have probably had someone build
your engines for you, and that they have fed you a load of bullshgit
since 1981 makes you an even bigger dupe. 389 are there own basic
design, then the next stand alone is the 421, then the 428 (remember,
not just a Ford displacement number), then we run to ther 350/400/455
blocks (again, not all are the same, especially depending on the year it
was cast)......

Sounds like you've been surfing the web
(http://www.pontiacstreetperformance....8displace.html) looking
for information, as bore and stroke is not the only differences between
the 389-455 engine design, if you think it is, then your greatly
mistaken(you need to dig much deeper than just the web to know exactly
what those differences are. I have an indepth knowledge of these
engines, as I've hand built any number for both myself, and my clients
over the years.........I shall not do your homework for you, the fact
that your wrong and cannot figure it out yourself is what makes this the
funniest thing I've heard to date from you.

Valid email, what makes you think my email address is not valid?

Daily driver, that depends on what day, it could be my Expedition, it
could be my 68 Mustang convertible, it could be my 73 Mustang
convertible, it could be my 1971 Boss 351 Mustang, it could be my ERA BB
Cobra replica, or it could be my 1982 Mustang GT road racer (sold my
Jeep wrangler this past week).....Or it could be my wife's Sebring
convertible(ug, I know, a chrysler product, but it does run well, and
she does not have to worry about me selling out from under her..Why,
because nobody else wants it........But thanks for asking dweeb........

Consider yourself put on ice, as you have nothing more to add that would
make yourself look or feel self important.


TS#15
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:01   #30 (permalink)
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Re: Boss 429 vs. 427 SOHC- <---BIG BULLSHIT artist in the house

again, you know shit about Pontiacs.

ANYONE worth his box end 9/16" wrench who is into Pontiacs, knows that
the TP Pontiac heads work best on the 455. On the 400 there is just
not enough velocity, and the engine ends up running like a slug on the
street. On a 455, the TP heads come to life.

Even a previous Ford TP owner said, he would not use the TP heads on
less than 454 cubic inches.

The only reason Pontiac put the TP heads on a 400 in 1969, is because
there was a corp. edict limited CID to 400 in A-bodies and F-bodies.

The engineers were already testing the heads on 428's.

The only difference between the Pontiac blocks is the bore/stroke and
main bearing size, all Pontiac rods are the same from 1955-79. All the
heads will physically bolt onto any block. You are misinformed. You
may have built a few Pontiacs, but I have built ONLY Pontiacs and
specialized in them since 1981.

Your email addy on Google is not complete, but I will send you a link
to another site to check it out.

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